Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-21 Thread alialtun14
It may be a solution to open an issue on this topic. https://github.com/bridgefoundry/bridgefoundry.github.io/issues/new On Friday, 19 July 2019 07:31:43 UTC+2, Space A. wrote: > > Another funny thing and I'm glad that you mentioned, is that "Woman Who > Go" and other known "non-google"

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-20 Thread Henrik Johansson
Reports of violations are not violations. I assume the standard coc procedure kicks in to determine if violations occurred or not. On Sat, Jul 20, 2019, 10:24 Jan Mercl <0xj...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 10:39 PM Cassandra Salisbury > wrote: > > > > I encourage everyone to take

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-20 Thread Jan Mercl
On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 10:39 PM Cassandra Salisbury wrote: > > I encourage everyone to take a look at the code of conduct. I have had > multiple reports from this particular thread. I, for one, have no idea why. But I guess Kafka would be delighted by this mysteriosity. -- You received this

[go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-19 Thread Cassandra Salisbury
I encourage everyone to take a look at the code of conduct . I have had multiple reports from this particular thread. I understand the desire to express opinions and thoughts, but please note that you should be doing this* within the bounds of our Code of Conduct

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-19 Thread Michael Jones
You sure seem eager to post negative things from your gmail account. Do you troll only, or is there anything of substance? If there is something about the Go language or computer programming that you wish to share it would be welcome: perhaps open source software you’ve written and want

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-19 Thread Space A.
Unless there are financial reports published for passed years, my personal opinion is that accurate term could be "use of official position or office for personal gain". Quite common thing to such a big companies, tbh. Oh, and don't forget "If you are independent artist tried to make something

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-19 Thread Lucio
On Friday, 19 July 2019 07:35:53 UTC+2, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > > what you're doing has a term: character assassination. > > please take it elsewhere. there are plenty of forums to air your > grievances. > > - Strongly worded agreement deleted - Lucio. -- You received this message

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-18 Thread andrey mirtchovski
what you're doing has a term: character assassination. please take it elsewhere. there are plenty of forums to air your grievances. On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:31 PM Space A. wrote: > > Another funny thing and I'm glad that you mentioned, is that "Woman Who Go" > and other known "non-google"

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-18 Thread Space A.
Another funny thing and I'm glad that you mentioned, is that "Woman Who Go" and other known "non-google" initiatives, as you said, were founded or co-founded by "developer advocate" Ashley McNamara. I don't know what kind of contract or collaboration, or relations she had with Google or Google

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-18 Thread andrey mirtchovski
> Funny thing that today Google has announced "official" store for Go-related > merch, which in it's essence is a try to take away even an even tiny business > opportunities for artists who were creating some goods and had a very very > little outcome on this. Now they will have ZERO. really?

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-18 Thread Space A.
Funny thing that today Google has announced "official" store for Go-related merch, which in it's essence is a try to take away even an even tiny business opportunities for artists who were creating some goods and had a very very little outcome on this. Now they will have ZERO. Well done Google.

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-18 Thread Ian Lance Taylor
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:21 AM David Skinner wrote: > > It is my opinion that it is only polite to acknowledge corporate sponsors in > a tangible way. > > The problem is if you have only one corporate sponsor. I know for a fact that > members of the Smythe Group have contributed time to Go

[go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-18 Thread David Skinner
It is my opinion that it is only polite to acknowledge corporate sponsors in a tangible way. The problem is if you have only one corporate sponsor. I know for a fact that members of the Smythe Group have contributed time to Go dev without compensation. Many other people have also made

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-17 Thread Robert Engels
NOTHING in life is free. Basic science and economics. > On Jul 17, 2019, at 11:08 AM, Space A. wrote: > > Others already replied about Oracle, and I don't want to go OT here, just a > small remark: you a wrong saying that VS Code is free. You are not paying > bills directly, that's correct.

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-17 Thread Space A.
Others already replied about Oracle, and I don't want to go OT here, just a small remark: you a wrong saying that VS Code is free. You are not paying bills directly, that's correct. But it is not quite true that you are not paying at all. It's just a different business model, first of all letting

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-17 Thread Lucio
Go is Great (I've been waiting a long time for an opportunity to say that :-) ) I use Go almost exclusively and do not cherish the thought of using something else, although I could in a pinch. I also stopped at Go1.10 for practical reasons. But at my age that is not really that serious.

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-17 Thread Michal Strba
Guys, why not keep the discussion to the point. Oracle is quite irrelevant here. The issue is the perception of Go among programmers. On Wed, Jul 17, 2019, 11:46 Wojciech S. Czarnecki wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 23:06:41 -0700 > Michael Jones wrote: > > > In regards to Oracle, I was delighted

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-17 Thread Wojciech S. Czarnecki
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 23:06:41 -0700 Michael Jones wrote: > In regards to Oracle, I was delighted when they released under GPL > and remain delighted that they pay Oracle employees to enhance it > and share their work. Excuse me?! 1. VirtualBox was opensourced under GPL by its real creators,

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-17 Thread Jan Mercl
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 8:07 AM Michael Jones wrote: > > I'm a reader here, so @all includes me. In regards to Oracle, I was delighted > when they released VirtualBox under GPL and remain delighted that they pay > Oracle employees to enhance it and share their work. I'm a thankful user of

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-17 Thread Michael Jones
I'm a reader here, so @all includes me. In regards to Oracle, I was delighted when they released VirtualBox under GPL and remain delighted that they pay Oracle employees to enhance it and share their work. When they write (https://www.virtualbox.org)... *"VirtualBox is being actively developed

[go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-16 Thread Anca Emanuel
@all, what do you think of Oracle ? That is not an company, that is an monster. On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 6:40:19 PM UTC+3, Michal Strba wrote: > > As you all know, the new, redesigned Go website has a Google logo in the > bottom right corner. > Someone opened an issue about this, worrying

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-16 Thread Dan Kortschak
The ™ thing is likely defensive, to avoid this kind of problem https://www.informationweek.com/google-go-name-brings-accusations-of-evil/d/d-id/1084786 Here is the USPTO record: http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc=4805:l86u0m.6.2 On Wed, 2019-07-17 at 01:13 +0300, Space A. wrote: >

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-16 Thread Aman Alam
Google has always has this thing with regards to Open Source and Community. I remember Android OS too. Community and Open Source when it benefits the product, and Google's TM when it suits the company. On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 6:13 PM Space A. wrote: > Yep, and if you spend hours or weeks or

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-16 Thread Space A.
Yep, and if you spend hours or weeks or months on contribution to this "free" tool which they claimed is owned to community, it's your problem. You just worked fo free for a great company. Be proud. Say hi to those guys who got paid and live in California. And, btw, they not just put logo,

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-16 Thread Michal Strba
Okay, so just to explain why I started this topic and what exactly we are talking about. First of all, just to clear up any doubts, I have no problem with the logo. Google 100% deserves to be there. The thing that I'm talking about is this. Every once in a white, I come across a discussion that

[go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-16 Thread JuciÊ Andrade
So a company spend millions on a tool that everybody may use freely and when they put a simple logo in the project page the sky falls down. Are you serious, people? I find hard to believe we are discussing that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-16 Thread Space A.
Of course Google is not making money of Go directly, it would be a non-sense. As I said, it's one of the tools they invested in, which helped them in making zillions including building and maintaining infrastructure, cutting the the costs, etc. That's why it is what it is. Even if they just play a

[go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-16 Thread Anca Emanuel
Mozilla had many projects, including languages for the web. Did they advertise about ? No. They simply take over the world. Microsoft battle ? Nah, now they are behind. Google is relatively new in the market. They take an open source browser engine, work with Apple and others to make some

[go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-16 Thread Anca Emanuel
Mozilla had many projects, including languages for the web. Did they advertise about ? No. They simply take over the world. Microsoft battle ? Nah, now they are behind. Google is relatively new in the market. They take an open source browser engine, work with Apple and others to make some

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-15 Thread Marcin Romaszewicz
I used to work at Google at the time that Go was created, and these are my own observations. Google isn't making zillions off Go. Google makes zillions off advertising and is trying to make money other ways, but not always very successfully. Go really was designed as a nice to use systems language

Re: [go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-15 Thread andrey mirtchovski
> Google invested in a tool for themselves, which helped a lot in getting some > zillions of bucks as return. Corps open smth to communities not because they > a "good", but because at some point they smart enough to make others work for > free. I see a "Go Haters Handbook" in the works. I

[go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-15 Thread Space A.
Google invested in a tool for themselves, which helped a lot in getting some zillions of bucks as return. Corps open smth to communities not because they a "good", but because at some point they smart enough to make others work for free. There is no reason to keep implementation of programming

[go-nuts] Re: About the Google logo on the new Go website

2019-07-15 Thread B Carr
Google has spent and is spending 10s of millions of $$$ on the development of Go and all while continuously giving it away without strings attached. And people have so much free time they complain about a tiny symbol in the upper left corner of the golang.org website? Thank you to the Go