[google-appengine] Re: App Engine VM-based Backends - Trusted Tester Sign-up

2013-06-25 Thread Robert Kluin
This is a really exciting feature. Will the durability of these backends look and feel more like GCE (long-term / stable) or will the be more like GAE's current backends (flaky and unstable)? Robert On Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:21:06 PM UTC-5, Takashi Matsuo (Google) wrote: Fellow App

Re: [google-appengine] Sunsetting double wildcard SSL certificate support for applications serving from appspot.com

2013-01-13 Thread Robert Kluin
How will this impact people using secure only URLs that are testing a new version of the app before making it default? I guess the versions page in the admin console will be updated to use the -dot- notation, so it will still be easy? Robert On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Christina

Re: [google-appengine] Scatters with NDB

2012-05-22 Thread Robert Kluin
Have you done any testing with this on an appspot instance? It has been a while since I last looked at the SDKs handling of this, but it was a little different last I knew. Robert On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Kaan Soral kaanso...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to rewrite my custom

Re: [google-appengine] Unexplained traffic loss

2012-05-22 Thread Robert Kluin
Did anyone file an issue on this? I have also seen this behavior before and would like to hear about the cause / resolution. Robert On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Robert Schuppenies schu...@google.com wrote: Have you filed a production issue?:

Re: [google-appengine] Taskqueue stops running tasks several times a day

2012-05-22 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Richard, Did you ever get an explanation / resolution for this? I have been seeing this same behavior across a lot of apps that I work with. We will see one or more queues just stop executing tasks for, typically, several minutes, but I have seen this last as long as 20 minutes. Robert

Re: [google-appengine] 500 Server Error

2012-04-20 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Gowtham, You need to take a look at your apps logs and see what the exception is being thrown. Robert On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 05:24, Gowtham Gutha guthagowt...@gmail.com wrote: I tried a sample java servlet application and deployed it to Google App Engine through Eclipse. My sample

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Outages?

2012-04-20 Thread Robert Kluin
Do you mean Python or Java apps sitting at over 100mb after spin up? I work on some extremely large Python apps, they can sit around ~75mb. If your Python app is heavier than that at startup... you are probably doing stuff in a very questionable way. Robert On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:02,

Re: [google-appengine] Re: How to filter images on GAE?

2012-04-18 Thread Robert Kluin
When you deploy to appspot, does your code work? You need to use Python 2.7 locally, and you need to ensure PIL is installed for Python 2.7. Robert On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 06:45, Computer_Engineer groupd...@gmail.com wrote: Brian Quinlan:Thanks for your response,i tried as :from PIL

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Datastore Small Operations - datastore.get(key)

2012-04-18 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi, Memcache is a cache, so you should not depend on it being there. If you need something persisted, you will need to write it to the datastore. You can stick it in memcache at write time, which will help your reads though. Robert On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 02:36, cloudpre

Re: [google-appengine] Re: How to filter images on GAE?

2012-04-18 Thread Robert Kluin
I suggest you post your actual app.yaml and the full stack trace from the appspot logs. Robert On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 14:56, Computer_Engineer groupd...@gmail.com wrote: Brian Quinlan: i tried to upload it into my application on GAE, the error still???what can i do? On Tuesday, April

Re: [google-appengine] Master/Slave Datastore, thanks for all your hard work

2012-04-04 Thread Robert Kluin
I think this is a really good idea. It will encourage people with apps to move, and help further persuade new apps to not use master-slave. I have not spoken to anyone who regretted the move to high-replication. Robert On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 15:42, Chris Ramsdale cramsd...@google.com

Re: [google-appengine] Fwd: 1.6.4 Prerelease Now Available

2012-03-20 Thread Robert Kluin
Awesome. Tons of good features here. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 19:10, Marzia Niccolai marce+appeng...@google.com wrote: Hi, The 1.6.4 prerelease SDKs are now available to download for Python and Java here: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/downloads/list Please see release notes

Re: [google-appengine] Re: 1:1 with a member of the App Engine community: Robert Kluin

2012-03-13 Thread Robert Kluin
kaanso...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a big fan of robertk, loved the interview On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 12:13:25 AM UTC+2, Johan Euphrosine (Google) wrote: FYI, I just posted an interview with our very Robert Kluin to Google+: https://plus.google.com/111042085517496880918/posts/8CHm8KKqXWU Feel

Re: [google-appengine] Tasks in queue counts wildly inflated (1000 = 700k)

2012-03-09 Thread Robert Kluin
Agreed. Makes it sometimes makes it hard to troubleshoot. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 12:21, Jan Zawadzki / Hapara jan.zawad...@hapara.com wrote: So the queue task counts seem to be pulling wrong queues, or miscalculating the number by a huge margin at times. We've observed queues with ~100

Re: [google-appengine] Re: App Engine Chat Time!

2012-03-08 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi, 1) Start a new thread. You responded to a completely unrelated post from many months ago. 2) Be more specific. It is not clear if you want to diagram the relationship between your data, or you want to diagram the schema. Robert On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 12:30, Edixon Polanco

Re: [google-appengine] Python 2.7 Instance problems today ?

2012-03-01 Thread Robert Kluin
Take screenshots and submit a billing issue. When you see stuff like that, I'd also submit a production issue. Robert On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:10, Mind steven...@gmail.com wrote: My app serves queries to control a free Android multiplayer game.  QPS is normally around 1/sec.  Responses

Re: [google-appengine] Re: many server error responded in the past hour

2012-03-01 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Tapir, I've recently noticed some strangeness around the instance management / scheduler too. I feel like instances are being killed almost immediately after serving a request, and I've been periodically seeing instances that don't seem fully loaded (based on mem use and no requests

Re: [google-appengine] Unable to create entity on Google App Engine Datastore

2012-03-01 Thread Robert Kluin
Are you making requests against your local server, or the app running on appspot? On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 04:24, ani soomita.pur...@umail.uom.ac.mu wrote: Hello, I’m trying to connect an android application with Google app engine. I am using Google App Engine Datastore as my “database”. The

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Email when quota is reached?

2012-03-01 Thread Robert Kluin
Perhaps this could be tied into my request for a persistent log of quotas hit. http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6296 Would be nice to be able to register an developer to get an email when quotas are getting hit. Robert On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 04:36, Felix E. Klee

Re: [google-appengine] No matching index found

2012-03-01 Thread Robert Kluin
You're not showing us the entire query here. Please show us the actual query or at least the index it says you're missing. Robert On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 08:32, ramesh chiluverirame...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I am trying to fetch the data by applying the sort order(Ascending) on the

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Does free quota still allow for roughly 5 million pageviews a month for an efficient application?

2012-02-28 Thread Robert Kluin
I guess the kind of apps I work with tend to be more like Jeff's. Even with heavy leveraging of memcache, the datastore quota is probably my biggest limiting factor. Of course, you'll rapidly hit the instance hour limit too. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 09:01, Jeff Schnitzer j...@infohazard.org

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Entities Dissappeared in Datastore Admin after Copy to another app

2012-02-26 Thread Robert Kluin
Goto the billing settings page of your app. Change the setting there. Robert On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 06:52, Sacha Vieux-Roy sachavieux...@gmail.com wrote: How do I so this? On Feb 24, 12:41 am, Robert Kluin robert.kl...@gmail.com wrote: HiSacha,   It sounds like you may want

Re: [google-appengine] Thought : Request Queue Management in Google app Engine

2012-02-26 Thread Robert Kluin
This is related to what the pending request latency controls adjust in your application's settings. If you turn the min-pending latency up, it will be more resistant to spinning up instances. Turn the max pending latency down, more willing to spin up instances. You'll need to experiment to

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Understanding The App Engine Way

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Kluin
More used items will remain in cache longer. So stuff that is infrequently used should naturally fall out. If you've got entities that are frequently written to and seldom read, memcaching them will obviously have a lower value. Particularly if they are updated very often. Note that it may

Re: [google-appengine] Entities Dissappeared in Datastore Admin after Copy to another app

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi Sacha, It sounds like you may want to increase your quota in order to finish the copy. Or, throttle the copy so it isn't burning your quota so fast. The other issues are all due to running out of quota. Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 02:08, Sacha Vieux-Roy montrealcoll...@gmail.com

Re: [google-appengine] Unneeded instance started

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Francois, Interesting. On apps where I'd set it to auto, I generally see the billed line track with the total line. I also generally see instances linger for a long, long time being largely unused. Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 03:58, Francois Masurel f.masu...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Need documentation of various limits/quotas regarding concurrent requests

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Markus, I've looked at using the Channel API or third party solutions in several projects. In one I went with the Channel API to test it out a little. I've still not made heavy use of it though. I've looked at the third party solutions a bit, but have not used one in a production app.

Re: [google-appengine] Generating 50k chunks for sitemap

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Jeff, I haven't tried to solve this problem in practice, so this amounts to thinking out loud; maybe it is helpful, maybe not. ;) So each chunk is limited to 50k urls and 10mb uncompressed. In other words, you've got to constraints to consider. In very simplistic testing, I can compress

Re: [google-appengine] Which task queue exceptions raised from Queue.add() make sense to retry?

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Andy, In Python, I retry internal errors. I believe I have seen timeouts masquerading as those. I'm not sure about the transactional error. I do not think I have ever seen one. Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:00, AndyD goo...@adennie.e4ward.com wrote: Thanks, Robert. FYI,

Re: [google-appengine] Google app engine - strategic investment for Google

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Hugues, This might be of interest to you: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2011/11/app-engine-160-out-of-preview-release.html Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 15:19, hugues2 hugues.flam...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, After experimenting with GAE/GWT, we will start a development

Re: [google-appengine] A single deploy crash all deployed server versions

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi Victor, Were you deploying to the version that was actively serving traffic or a new version? You might want to look into versions. Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 15:06, Victor Osorio oso...@runens.com wrote: I was deploying a application on GAE and the Verifying availability

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Verify Your Account by SMS from Uruguay

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Kluin
http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/sms.html#error On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:13, Mondel myplayb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi could activate my account to google app engine? I'm from Uruguay and the service does not work here. thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [google-appengine] After clicking Copy to another app in Datastore Admin Entities Dissapeared from Datastory Admin.

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi Sacha, The entities are probably still there. You're just burning through the quota too fast. Cancel the copy job, and/or pause your queues, wait a day, then see if everything is showing up again. Alternatively, go increase your daily budget. Robert On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 14:21,

Re: [google-appengine] How to unregister on AppSpot.com? (verification problems with cellphone no)

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Kluin
Fill out the sms issue form: http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/sms.html#error Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 03:11, chrisno1 chrsa...@student.liu.se wrote: I just registered an account on AppSpot.com where I used my own cellphone number for verification. However, the Gmail account I

Re: [google-appengine] Re: is app engine down? I'm seeing a huge number of deadline errors and our app failing to server, hr datastore

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Kluin
If this happens again in the future, you might want to file a production issue: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Production%20issue On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 06:45, Phong Luu p...@google.com wrote: Is this problem reoccuring again today? Can anyone look into

Re: [google-appengine] Update section of a web page

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Thomas, This isn't really an App Engine question, but more of a javascript question. I'd suggest asking at something like stack overflow. Also, google it: https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=dependent+select+menus Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 15:32, Thomas

Re: [google-appengine] Store Data from .csv into Database - Which one?

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi Jan, Well, there is the datastore: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/ If you don't want to write something to load and parse the csv in to entities yourself, you can use the bulkloader. http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/tools/uploadingdata.html

Re: [google-appengine] For information about how to identify the cause of the error to start up the backend

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Kluin
Sorry, I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying you got this working or that it still isn't working? If it isn't working, what errors are you getting in your logs? Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 21:19, linkseed links...@gmail.com wrote: I have a script for initialization, and you hook

Re: [google-appengine] Understanding channels and costs

2012-02-23 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey David, Note that this probably won't work as you're hoping. You can't have a broadcast channel: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/channel/overview.html#Caveats Robert On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 16:15, David Hardwick david.hardw...@bettercloud.com wrote: And how are you?

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Python 2.7: Instance memory limitations with concurrent requests

2012-02-22 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Alex, I should probably have stated this better as memory is not always handled well. For example, the ext.db code keeps many copies of the data in various forms. This can cause rapid and unexpected memory blowups, and the result is something that appears similar to a memory leak. As

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Need documentation of various limits/quotas regarding concurrent requests

2012-02-22 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Markus, We actually have *exactly* the same problem with Channel API. There's no way for us to use it since it is going to talkgadget.google.com. If I remember correctly, beaconpush, or one or more of their competitors, actually allows you to use your own domain. It will look a lots less

Re: [google-appengine] Re: [appengine-python] 2012 US PyCon -- GAE Related Sprints

2012-02-22 Thread Robert Kluin
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:18, Guido van Rossum gu...@google.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 22:46, Robert Kluin robert.kl...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Everyone,  Myself and several colleagues are going to be at pycon, and sticking around for a few days of sprints after the main conference

Re: [google-appengine] Which task queue exceptions raised from Queue.add() make sense to retry?

2012-02-22 Thread Robert Kluin
I would also suggest you handle TaskAlreadyExistsException. In some cases you may want to swallow that error, and in others raise it. In Python we also have a TombstonedTaskError, I guess that is handled by TaskAlreadyExistsException in Java. Actually, in Python we have a great deal more

Re: [google-appengine] Unneeded instance started

2012-02-22 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Francois, I'm curious, have you noticed an increase since setting this to automatic? On several apps where I've bumped into this issue in the past week or so I've seen a bunch of instances hang around through low traffic times. Robert On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 09:20, Francois Masurel

Re: [google-appengine] For information about how to identify the cause of the error to start up the backend

2012-02-22 Thread Robert Kluin
That will cause a request to /_ah/warmup. As I recall, you should handle that. The whole point in warmup requests is to give you a way to initialize your app. Robert On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:04, linkseed links...@gmail.com wrote: Could you include your app.yaml and corresponding url

Re: [google-appengine] Entities Dissappeared in Datastore Admin after Copy to another app

2012-02-22 Thread Robert Kluin
Are you hitting a quota? Are the entities showing up in the other app? On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 09:40, Sacha Vieux-Roy montrealcoll...@gmail.com wrote: I created a Google App Engine website in PYTHON. When I clicked Copy to another app in Datastore Admin, all entities dissapeared a couple

Re: [google-appengine] Caching a list on high replication datastore

2012-02-22 Thread Robert Kluin
For the case of adding, you can also track what was just added, then ensure that it is included in the results. So you'll run your normal query (without the additional lookup step), then just ensure the new item is in the list. The same can actually work for updates. If you update one entity,

Re: [google-appengine] Re: 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

2012-02-22 Thread Robert Kluin
I totally agree this is an excellent feature. Should give us good options for making the rollout of app updates a little safer. 2012/2/22 sebastián serrano sebastian.serr...@gmail.com: Wow, traffic splitting is a really nice feature. -Sebastian www.devsar.com -- You received this

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Task Queue Craziness

2012-02-21 Thread Robert Kluin
:    task_retry_limit: 1 is there any way i can say no retries? a while back, i tried task_retry_limit: 0 but didn't work thanks On Feb 21, 10:56 am, Robert Kluin robert.kl...@gmail.com wrote: Why not leave the rate at 1/s, but set max_concurrent_requests to 1 as Nick suggested? On Tue

Re: [google-appengine] Re: App Engine Takes 20 secs to serve some times

2012-02-21 Thread Robert Kluin
Just a note, you can confirm that this is indeed the issue by looking at the logs. If it is just your apps startup time you'll see a loading_request=1 following the latency info (when you expand the log entry). Robert On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 00:59, Krishnan PA krishnan8...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [google-appengine] Re: 1.6.3 Prerelease SDK Available

2012-02-21 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Marzia, Hopefully it will find its way to the dashboard soon though ? :) Robert On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 14:21, Marzia Niccolai marce+appeng...@google.com wrote: Hi Robert, On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Robert Kluin robert.kl...@gmail.com wrote: These are some

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Need documentation of various limits/quotas regarding concurrent requests

2012-02-21 Thread Robert Kluin
Why are you doing this rather than using a service such as beaconpush.com? As for wanting limits thoroughly documented, I could not agree more. This is some thing that should be done, and I frankly can't understand why it isn't. I would like to see something like:

Re: [google-appengine] problem in upload data using remote_api and loader

2012-02-21 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi, You didn't really give details about the command you're actually trying to run, but you might try calling appcfg with -A s~finaldidi Robert On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 04:42, didi chudidi0...@gmail.com wrote: hello everyone, I referenced the artical

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Undocumented quota: Log Records Received

2012-02-17 Thread Robert Kluin
it be increased? I'm planning to implement prodeagle using the logservice instead of memcache. But 100 reads per day is just too low if you have more than 100 queries per day. Are there any other alternatives? Cheers, -Andrin On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Robert Kluin robert.kl

Re: [google-appengine] Youtube API Logging

2012-02-12 Thread Robert Kluin
What happens when you open the logs page, then set the level to error? Do you have exception handling in your code that's masking the exceptions? Robert On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 06:59, facanferff facanfer...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm the developer of a plugin supporting Youtube for Showtime

Re: [google-appengine] What I did wrong? 2000 instances!

2012-02-12 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi Ronaldo, I'd probably go with either Barry or Brandon's suggestion to lower the max concurrency or disable the process while you're debugging. Do you know what is causing the latency to slowly increase? If it is due to loading the remote servers, have you investigated if batching will

Re: [google-appengine] How to handle HTTPS in development?

2012-02-12 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Kaan, Have you looked at using secure: always in your app.yaml, rather than redirecting yourself? http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/config/appconfig.html#Secure_URLs Robert On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 21:56, Kaan Soral kaanso...@gmail.com wrote: HTTP is great, easy to

Re: [google-appengine] Mail quota Problem

2012-02-11 Thread Robert Kluin
They've been having a number of issues related to email quotas / usage display. You might file an issue with your appid so they can take a look. Robert On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 08:35, partnerke...@hotmail.com partnerke...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Recipients Emailed %100 fills up quickly.

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-10 Thread Robert Kluin
Awesome! You stole what was going to be an evening project this weekend. ;) Looking forwards to checking this out. Robert On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:46, Andrin von Rechenberg and...@miumeet.com wrote: Hey guys Short version: Problem solved, just subscribe to: 

Re: [google-appengine] Reduced email quota for billed application

2012-02-10 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi Piotr, Google said yesterday that they were running a job to correct this issue. I'd suggest you give it a little more time, then if it isn't fixed file an issue. http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Production%20issue Robert On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Task Queue Quota Errors, but I have enough quota

2012-02-10 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Brandon, No offense, but there's almost nothing correct in this. I'm also not sure where some of the terms come from -- I couldn't find references to them in the Python or Java docs. Tasks will basically be run as fast as your settings allow. There are three main settings: rate,

Re: [google-appengine] Help! We can't pay for App Engine and our apps failing as a result!

2012-02-10 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi Derek, Did you get this corrected? Have you tried in a different browser? If you're still down, you might try filing a billing issue -- but those often take quite some time. You might have better luck filing a prod issue and hoping someone can help you.

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Indexes

2012-02-10 Thread Robert Kluin
I also dislike the current workflow. At the minimum it could easily be made less painful for the users. I submitted a ticket with one proposed improvement. http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6573 Robert On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 20:58, Mike Wesner

Re: [google-appengine] Re: is multiprocessing or pprocess supported by gae?

2012-02-10 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi, Have you considered using taskqueues? That will let you spread the load across multiple instances of your app. http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/taskqueue/ Python 2.7 supports some threading, but, of course, if you're CPU bound that won't help in Python (and may actually

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-09 Thread Robert Kluin
This is actually my biggest complaint about SO as well. It is far outside my usual workflow. I also prefer the gmail groups interface. I guess I need to try the RSS stuff, but I don't currently watch any RSS feeds -- so this is outside my normal flow as well. Robert On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-09 Thread Robert Kluin
I also started noticing that on Brandon's posts a day or two ago I think. Robert On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 14:55, Jeff Schnitzer j...@infohazard.org wrote: I don't mind the font, but Brandon whatever you're doing now shows a vertical bar to the left of your content exactly the same as Gmail

Re: [google-appengine] Select field value in the view

2012-02-09 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi, What part doesn't work? When you view the HTML are the key values there? Are you sure the form is submitted via POST and not via GET? What happens if you use self.request.get('identity')? Robert On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 13:38, tejinderss tejinde...@gmail.com wrote: I have 2 models,

Re: [google-appengine] Task Queue Quota Errors, but I have enough quota

2012-02-09 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi John, BulkAdd is just a level down in the taskqueue stuff, so you're calling it just not directly. I've also occasionally hit this quota in short bursts, then it will go away. Are you seeing this for a prolonged period or just periodically seeing small bursts of the error in your logs?

Re: [google-appengine] Question about query equality operator docs

2012-02-09 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi, There should be no difference; the usage is not even consistent within the SDK code. Operator list: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/source/browse/trunk/python/google/appengine/ext/db/__init__.py#264 For some example inconsistencies, read over this method:

Re: [google-appengine] check number of users (sessions) using my sight

2012-02-09 Thread Robert Kluin
Unless those are actively cleaned up, the count probably won't be meaningful. Robert On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 19:53, Ikai Lan (Google) ika...@google.com wrote: You should be able to look at the number of sessions in the datastore (this uses the _ah_session Kind), but I don't know how

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Understanding Data Writes

2012-02-09 Thread Robert Kluin
. To clarify, in the example I mentioned, would adding a non-composite EntitiesByProperty ASC type index then require 12,000 * (size of EntitiesByProperty ASC i.e. 3 str + key + property value) on top of the original storage space? Thanks, Rick On Feb 8, 11:18 pm, Robert Kluin robert.kl

Re: [google-appengine] and this, kids, is why we use app engine...

2012-02-08 Thread Robert Kluin
Well, one obvious reason SO isn't even going to consider GAE is that they're a .Net shop. They also seem to have people who like running servers. I'd say between those two aspects it is unlikely they could find many other choices. It is very plausible to handle large loads on GAE. I did some

Re: [google-appengine] Billing for Incoming Bandwith

2012-02-08 Thread Robert Kluin
You should file this as a documentation bug. http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Other%20defect Robert On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 09:39, Jaap Taal j...@q42.nl wrote: Hi all, I'm seeing different docs about billing for incoming bandwith: Incoming bandwith is not

Re: [google-appengine] one-to-many pricing of GAE

2012-02-08 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi Steven, Some responses inline. Robert On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:26, steven jobshif...@gmail.com wrote: Hi: Thank you in advance I have a question about Datastore API calls. Suppose I have a one-to-many relation ship, with two solutions as below: 1) solution 1 class A {    

Re: [google-appengine] What is the email situation now?

2012-02-08 Thread Robert Kluin
Yes, it frequently happens. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:51, Kaan Soral kaanso...@gmail.com wrote: Is it still the same? Are emails sent from gae marked as spam? Thanks in Advance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view

Re: [google-appengine] Task Queue Quota Errors, but I have enough quota

2012-02-08 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey John, Just wondering, are you seeing those when inserting really large batches or just a few tasks? Robert On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 21:31, John Wheeler j...@highvolumeseller.com wrote: Hello, I am experiencing the error: The API call taskqueue.BulkAdd() required more quota than is

Re: [google-appengine] Production issue : Unable to write to the high replication data store

2012-02-08 Thread Robert Kluin
You're probably going to need to provide some details to get any help. For example, are you getting an exception or something? In your issue it sounds caching related. Do you use memcache to cache stuff? Robert On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 22:44, prashant prashant.he...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Over Quota Error - but not over Quota?

2012-02-08 Thread Robert Kluin
Did either of you file a production issue about this? http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Production%20issue Robert On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 21:08, John Wheeler j...@highvolumeseller.com wrote: Hello, I am getting the same error and have the same symptoms from

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Kluin
Cool Bart. That might make it easier to keep up with the questions there! Robert On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:30, Bart Thate bth...@gmail.com wrote: If you are on IRC freenode i just made a channel where my bot spams the RSS feed of stackoverflow. Channel is #appengine-overflow ;] On Tue,

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine community support is moving to Stack Overflow

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Kluin
, Robert Kluin robert.kl...@gmail.com wrote: Cool Bart.  That might make it easier to keep up with the questions there! Robert On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:30, Bart Thate bth...@gmail.com wrote: If you are on IRC freenode i just made a channel where my bot spams the RSS feed of stackoverflow

Re: [google-appengine] How to perform Blobstore Asynchronous Requests for getting upload result.

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi, Have you tried following the example in the docs of how to upload a blob? http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/blobstore/overview.html#Uploading_a_Blob Note that the handler is deriving from blobstore_handlers.BlobstoreUploadHandler, and that they don't directly get the

Re: [google-appengine] Quick Pricing Clarification

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi Rick, get_by_key_name is not a query, it is an entity get. Even those that don't exist count against your quota, the datastore still does basically the same amount of work. Robert On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 19:10, Richard Arrano rickarr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I just was wondering in

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Warning: This application is hidden by an alias.

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Kluin
Have you guys tried filing production issues? http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Production%20issue I'd be interested in knowing how this gets resolved. Robert On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 22:06, NeverFollow pgroj...@zenius.com wrote: Hi, I noticed the same message

Re: [google-appengine] *.proto API files?

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi Shawn, I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, but this has been open source for quite some time. In the case of Python see: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/source/browse/#svn%2Ftrunk%2Fpython%2Fgoogle%2Fnet And for a very tedious usage example:

Re: [google-appengine] Typical user latencies?

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Kluin
include latency for pulling down subsequent files). http://slquerytest.appspot.com/ On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Robert Kluin robert.kl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Shawn,  Setup a file you'd like to benchmark against and I'll pull it down a few times (I'm near Chicago).  I've seen services

Re: [google-appengine] Re: What is a good pattern to display and sort long lists? Work around the 1MB memcache limit? Or something else?

2012-02-07 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi Sam, I like Per's suggestion to use compression first. I often use that technique to get more out of both memcache and the datastore. Do you sort by all 15 fields? Do you sort by those fields in combination, or always with some other field? It is quite possibly the case that sorting by

Re: [google-appengine] Re: SLOW

2012-02-06 Thread Robert Kluin
.  And everything is slow, even when I don't make URL fetches. On Feb 5, 9:23 pm, Robert Kluin robert.kl...@gmail.com wrote: Are you making a URL fetch call in that? On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 11:42, pdknsk pdk...@googlemail.com wrote: http://goo.gl/Mmhzo 2012-02-05 06:28:04.398 /feed/ 200 90894ms

Re: [google-appengine] Storage stats discrepancy in usage stats v.s.billing

2012-02-06 Thread Robert Kluin
You can star issue 2740 if you'd like to see stats on what your indexes are using too: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=2740 Also, if you're using a lot of tasks, the storage they use gets counted too. Robert On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 14:02, Simon Knott

Re: [google-appengine] How to perform Blobstore Asynchronous Requests for getting upload result.

2012-02-06 Thread Robert Kluin
Have you tried to catch and retry the timeouts / deadline errors, and decrease the rpc deadline for the create call? The second will let you try the first part of the solution more times if you hit errors. If you're hitting these issues a lot, I'd file a production issue. I've seen several other

Re: [google-appengine] Re: SLOW

2012-02-06 Thread Robert Kluin
to bring down the number of instances I am getting charged for by making the change... Let's see what happens with this experiment. On Feb 6, 4:03 pm, Robert Kluin robert.kl...@gmail.com wrote: I was asking about URL Fetch since there could be many factors influencing latency in those cases

Re: [google-appengine] Re: SLOW

2012-02-06 Thread Robert Kluin
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 01:06, Brandon Wirtz drak...@digerat.com wrote: What I've found is that unless you've got very spiky traffic, that suddenly and massively spikes, you can turn the max idle instances down.  They more-or- less just act like a buffer, but don't actively serve traffic.  If

Re: [google-appengine] file.create() throws an ApiDeadlineExceededException very frequently

2012-02-05 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi Gaurav, I wonder if this issue is related to how your code works. In the past I've used the files api to write a lot of blobs, via tasks, simultaneously without issues. If you're able to put together some simple code and instructions to replicate the issue with that little load, someone can

Re: [google-appengine] Remove post from mail-archive.com

2012-02-05 Thread Robert Kluin
You should probably include a link to the post in Google Groups. On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 23:02, Jade Elizabeth jade.elizabet...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I have contacted mail-archive.com to delete a post I have posted but they told that I need to send a request to you. Could you please assist

Re: [google-appengine] Frontend instance hours being consumed with zero requests

2012-02-05 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi Troy, Do you have cron jobs or tasks that run on that app? Have you reduced the max idle instances to 1? Robert On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 14:35, Troy tde...@gmail.com wrote: I have an app that is basically a test version of another app.  So everything is setup the same and uses the same

Re: [google-appengine] Remove Archive post

2012-02-05 Thread Robert Kluin
Please don't keep posting the same request. You need to provide the link to Google Groups post you want removed. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 23:19, Jadeli jade.elizabet...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I would like to remove an archive post from mail-archive.com and I need instruction to do this.

Re: [google-appengine] Running Out of Database Read Operations

2012-02-05 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey David, A query counts as one read plus one read per entity returned. The costs of various operation are detailed on the billings page: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/billing.html You probably need to come up with a way to filter your queries so they only return what is needed.

Re: [google-appengine] Are there any slick methods for Owned Collection item orphan removal?

2012-02-05 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Brandon, Iterate over the _keys_ making sure the parent entity exists. You could design it to prevent rechecking for the same parent over and over, which will help reduce costs. You can iterate over a lot of entities pretty fast with a keys-only query. Insert one task per X parents you

Re: [google-appengine] hola

2012-02-05 Thread Robert Kluin
You might find the reference useful when debugging these types of problems: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/runtime.html#The_Sandbox Robert On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:28, Alessandro Aglietti alessandro.aglie...@gmail.com wrote: Ciao, the filesystem on appengine is read-only

Re: [google-appengine] Re: (mostly) Consistent 20-second delay in starting backend tasks

2012-02-05 Thread Robert Kluin
queues without backends? On Feb 1, 9:03 pm, Robert Kluin robert.kl...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Dave,   Hopefully Nick will be able to offer some insight into the cause of your issues.  I'd guess it is something related to having very few tasks (one) in thequeue

Re: [google-appengine] Remove post

2012-02-05 Thread Robert Kluin
Time for someone to block this person as a spammer -- yikes. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 18:45, Jade Elizabeth jade.elizabet...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I have contacted mail-archive.com to delete a post I have posted but they told me that I need to send a request to you. Could you please assist

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