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2014-03-27 Thread Goran Popovic
Any news on when will vm backends be available for all users? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

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2014-03-26 Thread Tapir
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 8:04:41 AM UTC+8, Wesley C (Google) wrote: @pdknsk: Correct, this feature has been announced publicly now so thanks for sending a link to the developer docs. To see a summary of all the exciting announcements we made today (2014 Mar 25), we suggest you check

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2014-03-25 Thread pdknsk
https://developers.google.com/cloud/managed-vms -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

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2014-03-25 Thread Wesley C (Google)
@pdknsk: Correct, this feature has been announced publicly now so thanks for sending a link to the developer docs. To see a summary of all the exciting announcements we made today (2014 Mar 25), we suggest you check the

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2014-02-20 Thread Tapir
Could you provide datastore APIs for using on GCE without a GAE instance? It would be great if it is possible. On Friday, June 21, 2013 3:21:06 AM UTC+8, Takashi Matsuo (Google) wrote: Fellow App Engine Gurus, We're happy to announce the next generation of App Engine Managed Backends.

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2014-02-05 Thread Grant Jason
Your narrative on VM-based Backends is* half-baked* without you commenting on the short-comings of current Backends, and how those are solved by this move. On Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:21:06 PM UTC+2, Takashi Matsuo (Google) wrote: Fellow App Engine Gurus, We're happy to announce the next

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2014-02-03 Thread pdknsk
Any news on general availability? I can't shake the impression of the App Engine team being dormant. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2014-02-03 Thread Amy Unruh
On 4 February 2014 06:25, pdknsk pdk...@gmail.com wrote: Any news on general availability? I can't shake the impression of the App Engine team being dormant. As usual, we don't specifically announce timelines ahead of time, but there is an active group of early testers for the VM Runtime--

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2013-12-17 Thread John Smith
Thanks for the link it is really helpful for linux user On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:13:48 AM UTC+5:30, pdknsk wrote: Google Compute Engine is now Generally Available http://googlecloudplatform.blogspot.de/2013/12/google-compute-engine-is-now-generally-available.html Hurry! :) -- You

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2013-12-02 Thread pdknsk
Google Compute Engine is now Generally Available http://googlecloudplatform.blogspot.de/2013/12/google-compute-engine-is-now-generally-available.html Hurry! :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group

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2013-11-08 Thread AK2: A.-Karriem A. Khan
dart vm's 2 ? On Thursday, June 20, 2013 12:21:06 PM UTC-7, Takashi Matsuo (Google) wrote: Fellow App Engine Gurus, We're happy to announce the next generation of App Engine Managed Backends. These Backends utilize the App Engine VM Runtime, allowing developers to run Backends on Compute

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2013-10-23 Thread Hartwig Erfurth
Hi, I read that there is Java servlet 3.0 support? Could you give some more hints on this? In which container (Jetty 8?) is it actually based? What EL version is supported? Is CDI (weld) possible? Thanks! Am Donnerstag, 20. Juni 2013 21:21:06 UTC+2 schrieb Takashi Matsuo (Google): Fellow App

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2013-09-19 Thread Mihai
This allows us to run websockets however without auto-scaling is worthless . Thanks, Mihai. On Thursday, 20 June 2013 20:21:06 UTC+1, Takashi Matsuo (Google) wrote: Fellow App Engine Gurus, We're happy to announce the next generation of App Engine Managed Backends. These Backends

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2013-09-17 Thread Takashi Matsuo
Thanks Brian for letting us know. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:13 AM, Brian Tosch brian.to...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, missed it in my search but there was already an open issue 9950. I indicated mine is a dupe but I don't think I can retract it. On Monday, September 16, 2013 1:52:17 PM

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2013-09-16 Thread Brian Tosch
Sorry, missed it in my search but there was already an open issue 9950. I indicated mine is a dupe but I don't think I can retract it. On Monday, September 16, 2013 1:52:17 PM UTC-7, Brian Tosch wrote: I opened an issue for adding Go support.

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2013-09-16 Thread Brian Tosch
I opened an issue for adding Go support. https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=9964 On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:44:03 PM UTC-7, Takashi Matsuo (Google) wrote: Hi Marcel, Currently VM-based backends support Java and Python2.7. I'd appreciate it if you could file

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2013-09-13 Thread Jeffery Fernandez
All PHP project owners, please star https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=9953 for introducing support for PHP VMRuntime. Thanks On Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:44:03 UTC+10, Takashi Matsuo (Google) wrote: Hi Marcel, Currently VM-based backends support Java and

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2013-09-12 Thread Joshua Turmel
What other options can you specify? This post points to the documentation, the documentation just mentions other options can be set but doesn't say what they are, unless I'm missing something. Thank you, Josh On Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:21:06 PM UTC-5, Takashi Matsuo (Google) wrote: Fellow

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2013-09-01 Thread Takashi Matsuo
Hi Jeffery, For restrictions, you are right. VM-based backends have only fewer restrictions than the traditional App Engine backends. Currently there's no public documentation. I hope these bullet points help you understanding the difference. - take advantage of higher CPU and memory -

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2013-08-31 Thread Jeffery Fernandez
Hi Takashi, Could you explain the differences between appengine backends and VM backends? I am assuming VM backends don't have many restrictions as what appengine does? Could you point me to some documentation or comparison list? Thanks On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Takashi Matsuo

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2013-08-28 Thread Takashi Matsuo
Hi Marcel, Currently VM-based backends support Java and Python2.7. I'd appreciate it if you could file issues for supporting PHP and Go at: https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/list?can=2q=Component%3DVMRuntime I'd like to know how many people have interests in it. Thanks for

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2013-08-27 Thread Marcel Manz
Will those VM-based backends support all runtimes? So Java, Python and PHP? -- Marcel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2013-08-12 Thread Chris Ramsdale
Manual scaling for a V1 launch, but we're looking into auto-scaling. -- Chris On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Andrew First and...@leanplum.com wrote: This is great! Any plans to support autoscaling as well? Andrew On Thursday, June 20, 2013 12:21:06 PM UTC-7, Takashi Matsuo (Google)

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2013-08-08 Thread Andrew First
This is great! Any plans to support autoscaling as well? Andrew On Thursday, June 20, 2013 12:21:06 PM UTC-7, Takashi Matsuo (Google) wrote: Fellow App Engine Gurus, We're happy to announce the next generation of App Engine Managed Backends. These Backends utilize the App Engine VM

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2013-06-26 Thread Vinny P
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Kristopher Giesing kris.gies...@gmail.com wrote: PS : Now that we've got these great new backends and all the goodness of BigQuery, CloudSQL, Datastore, ..., the only remaining evil problem in the AppEngine world is the behavior of the dispatcher which sends

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2013-06-25 Thread Kristopher Giesing
PS : Now that we've got these great new backends and all the goodness of BigQuery, CloudSQL, Datastore, ..., the only remaining evil problem in the AppEngine world is the behavior of the dispatcher which sends user-facing requests to starting instances. we have engineers dedicated to

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2013-06-25 Thread Robert Kluin
This is a really exciting feature. Will the durability of these backends look and feel more like GCE (long-term / stable) or will the be more like GAE's current backends (flaky and unstable)? Robert On Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:21:06 PM UTC-5, Takashi Matsuo (Google) wrote: Fellow App

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2013-06-25 Thread Takashi Matsuo
Hi Robert, The VMs won't live forever, but definitely live long enough for the most use-case. Generally there will be one periodic restart per weak. -- Takashi On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Robert Kluin robert.kl...@gmail.comwrote: This is a really exciting feature. Will the durability

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2013-06-24 Thread Nicolas Fonrose (Teevity)
That really is a great news ! And it is something that makes AppEngine so much simpler to use in situation where we have to mix between PaaS and IaaS ! I've got one question regarding the billing : - I assume this service will be billed as part of the AppEngine bill, right ? - Can

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2013-06-24 Thread Chris Ramsdale
some comments inline below. -- Chris On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Nicolas Fonrose (Teevity) nicolas.fonr...@teevity.com wrote: That really is a great news ! And it is something that makes AppEngine so much simpler to use in situation where we have to mix between PaaS and IaaS! great

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2013-06-24 Thread jon
That is an absolutely positively excellent piece of news, Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2013-06-21 Thread timh
Thats pretty cool. Just looked at the SQlite example for backend VM on python. It raises an obvious question, what app server runtime are you running on the vm backend to support a deployed python app. Is it the new dev_appserver or something else ? What sort of concurrency does it support ?

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2013-06-21 Thread Takashi Matsuo
Hi Ray, Re: cost We're still discussing the cost, but the final shape of tariff won't be very different from what you expect I think. Re: memory You can choose from a subset list of compute engine instance types. -- Takashi On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Ray windz...@gmail.com wrote: Will

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2013-06-21 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
I just want to say WOW, this is amazing. I have long grumbled here that backends, in their current form, are pretty useless. But this could change that completely. I also want to say that ever since Google announced Compute Engine and started focusing on it at I/O, I've had the lingering fear

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2013-06-21 Thread Takashi Matsuo
Hi Tim, Yes it's cool, really. The reason I segment the sqlite guestbook into a single instance is that there is no easy way to share the sqlite table on the local disks between the instances. We run a multi-threaded server on each instance. If you set threadsafe:true in the app.yaml file, the

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2013-06-21 Thread pdknsk
How does this work on multi-core VMs I wonder. As far as I understand, multi-threading here doesn't mean multi-processing, so each backend still only runs on a single core. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe

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2013-06-21 Thread pdknsk
PS. It seems like for every great news, Google has sad news in store. It appears that today Google has removed the option to revert to the old Google Groups format. Oh well. Totally unrelated, I know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App

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2013-06-21 Thread Vinny P
On Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:21:06 PM UTC-5, Takashi Matsuo (Google) wrote: Fellow App Engine Gurus, We're happy to announce the next generation of App Engine Managed Backends. These Backends utilize the App Engine VM Runtime, allowing developers to run Backends on Compute Engine VMs. By

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2013-06-21 Thread Chris Ramsdale
re: multi-core, you can os.fork() in Python and ForkJoinPoolshttp://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/util/concurrent/ForkJoinPool.htmlin Java. re: Google Groups, we can only do so much :) -- Chris On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:58 PM, pdknsk pdk...@gmail.com wrote: How does this work on

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2013-06-21 Thread Vinny P
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:58 PM, pdknsk pdk...@gmail.com wrote: How does this work on multi-core VMs I wonder. As far as I understand, multi-threading here doesn't mean multi-processing, so each backend still only runs on a single core. Be careful when using multiple cores within Java

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2013-06-20 Thread pdknsk
Wow, this sounds quite fantastic if it works how I imagine it does. Hopefully pricing is oriented more towards current GCE prices. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

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2013-06-20 Thread Ray
Will it cost like Compute Engine or it will cost like App Engine? (e.g. how much are the memory?) On Friday, June 21, 2013 3:21:06 AM UTC+8, Takashi Matsuo (Google) wrote: Fellow App Engine Gurus, We're happy to announce the next generation of App Engine Managed Backends. These Backends