Re: [google-appengine] Re: calling out the app engine team on ssl for custom domains

2011-10-17 Thread Gregory D'alesandre
In case you hadn't seen this, I'm sure you'll be happy to know that SSL is now in Trusted Tester: http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/d7fb200cbe9d2010# I DID say we were going to release this as soon as possible and, well, here we are :) Greg On Sat, Oct 15,

[google-appengine] Re: calling out the app engine team on ssl for custom domains

2011-10-15 Thread jon
+1 On Oct 14, 8:07 pm, Louis Le Coeur louis.leco...@gmail.com wrote: 1.5.5 SDK release and still no mention of SSL whatsoever... It seems now certain that we won't have it by the end of the year. And it's starting to get really frustrating, at a time where browser support is ubiquitous

[google-appengine] Re: calling out the app engine team on ssl for custom domains

2011-10-14 Thread Louis Le Coeur
1.5.5 SDK release and still no mention of SSL whatsoever... It seems now certain that we won't have it by the end of the year. And it's starting to get really frustrating, at a time where browser support is ubiquitous enough for an SNI-only solution. When I see all of their other

Re: [google-appengine] Re: calling out the app engine team on ssl for custom domains

2011-09-26 Thread Matthew Prince
Brandon is both right and wrong. I'd suggest you take his comments with a bit of a grain of salt since he starting a fledging CloudFlare-like service called CDN In A Box. The short answer is: CloudFlare today will not hurt your SEO (and in fact usually helps it fairly significantly) and

Re: [google-appengine] Re: calling out the app engine team on ssl for custom domains

2011-09-26 Thread John Roberts
I work at CloudFlare, to make my biases crystal clear. Our service is not harmful to SEO. Here's two blog posts on the topic: http://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-and-seo http://blog.cloudflare.com/losing-seo-link-juice-to-traditional-cdns Brandon, I'm surprised by your assertions, which don't

Re: [google-appengine] Re: calling out the app engine team on ssl for custom domains

2011-09-26 Thread Matthew Prince
Take Brandon's comments with a bit of a grain of salt given that he's trying to launch a CloudFlare-like competitor called CDN in a Box. Here's info on CloudFlare and SEO addressing his speculated concerns: http://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-and-seo Short summary: we actually markedly

Re: [google-appengine] Re: calling out the app engine team on ssl for custom domains

2011-09-26 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
Thank you for taking the time to explain the details. Jeff On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Matthew Prince matt...@cloudflare.com wrote: Brandon is both right and wrong. I'd suggest you take his comments with a bit of a grain of salt since he starting a fledging CloudFlare-like service called

RE: [google-appengine] Re: calling out the app engine team on ssl for custom domains

2011-09-26 Thread Brandon Wirtz
I have said multiple times our customers don't align at all, and we started CDN in a Box as a result of the needs of clients who were experiencing issues with CF. CiaB doesn't do SSL at all. My concerns aren't speculated. http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab

RE: [google-appengine] Re: calling out the app engine team on ssl for custom domains

2011-09-26 Thread Brandon Wirtz
And I should clarify. Putting Facebook.Yourdomain.com on CF for https requests from Facebook, (leaving the rest of the application running not on CF) is probably not a horrible idea. You'd only be putting user experience at risk if a captcha appeared or CF throttled the connection in a strange

RE: [google-appengine] Re: calling out the app engine team on ssl for custom domains

2011-09-26 Thread Brandon Wirtz
In case that Google link didn't make sense. That's 2500 sites (2.5% of CF's Site base) that have had their site present Google bot with an access denied error. Not with a 500 error, Not with a 403. With a perfectly happy 200. As to my loyalties and background. CDNinaBox runs on GAE. I'm

Re: [google-appengine] Re: calling out the app engine team on ssl for custom domains

2011-09-26 Thread Matthew Prince
That's a great list that actually doesn't prove what you think, but it does turn out to prove one of CloudFlare's value propositions. If you look down the list you'll find that a majority are *.blogspot.com domains. By definition, since blogspot.com users can't subdeligate the DNS of

[google-appengine] Re: calling out the app engine team on ssl for custom domains

2011-09-24 Thread johnP
Jeff - thanks for the link to Cloudflare. It certainly seems like an interesting option. The risk with implementing them is that it's one more layer that can fail. Does anyone else have feedback about how well it works?Also, does anyone have thoughts on whether the other benefits of

Re: [google-appengine] Re: calling out the app engine team on ssl for custom domains

2011-09-24 Thread Steve Sherrie
I too wonder about the availability of cloud fare. I'd like to find out how it goes for you if you end up using it. Steve On 11-09-24 02:48 PM, johnP wrote: Jeff - thanks for the link to Cloudflare. It certainly seems like an interesting option. The risk with implementing them is that it's

RE: [google-appengine] Re: calling out the app engine team on ssl for custom domains

2011-09-24 Thread Brandon Wirtz
You will be most unhappy. Many of my SEO clients are FORMER cloudflare users who found out the hard way that when Cloudflare mistakes Google Bot for a DDoS Attack they get delisted, or when one of Google's Human Quality validation techs visit the site and get a captcha challenge they get

Re: [google-appengine] Re: calling out the app engine team on ssl for custom domains

2011-09-24 Thread Steve Sherrie
There ya go then. Steve On 11-09-24 03:31 PM, Brandon Wirtz wrote: You will be most unhappy. Many of my SEO clients are FORMER cloudflare users who found out the hard way that when Cloudflare mistakes Google Bot for a DDoS Attack they get delisted, or when one of Google's Human Quality