On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 6:41 PM 'Marlon Regenhardt' via Google
Visualization API <google-visualization-api@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thanks for this rolling blackout, that's actually a nice concept for this
> kind of API.
>
> When I saw the deprecation on the docs, I just switched to integrating a
> WASM lib, as I couldn't find a replacement in the docs. Totally fine for my
> use case generating an image from graphviz code.
> Do I understand it correctly that the "replacement" Google Charts API
> linked in the deprecation notice is a library and there will not be a
> hosted service after Feb 25th?
>

Correct. The Google Charts team is working on open sourcing the library,
but there's no specific timeline for when that'll be completed.


> Also yes theoretically it's possible to return the actual deprecation
> message as reason phrase in the HTTP response.
> Jon Orwant schrieb am Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2024 um 19:26:39 UTC+1:
>
>> Feb 25.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:52 AM Aditi Soni <soniad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jon,
>>>
>>> Could please confirm the final date of complete turndown for this API.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 8:20:34 PM UTC+5:30 Jon Orwant wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK. I'll leave it up through Friday and then resume blackouts.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:49:03 AM UTC-5 wei...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Appreciate the extra time. We're in the same boat, older versions of
>>>>> that library used the deprecated API. We've upgraded to the latest version
>>>>> which generates the image itself, we just need a few days to test and
>>>>> deploy.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 7:13:11 AM UTC-5 Jon Orwant wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK. Please hurry, though!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 7:06 AM 'Win Paing Soe' via Google
>>>>>> Visualization API <google-visua...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are using GoogleAuthenticator NuGet package to generate QR code
>>>>>>> to use with Authenticator Apps for OTP and just realized "
>>>>>>> chart.googleapis.com" is shutting down. (First time we're hearing
>>>>>>> of it, too)
>>>>>>> Appreciate if we could have few more days or a couple of weeks while
>>>>>>> we are migrating to the other solutions, Jon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 2:30:21 AM UTC+7 Josh Weiss wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 2:18:20 PM UTC-5 Jon Orwant wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've turned it back on for the rest of the day but will have
>>>>>>>>> another blackout tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 2:17:32 PM UTC-5 wei...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jon, any chance you can turn it back on? This is the first
>>>>>>>>>> we're hearing of it. We'll migrate off as soon as we can, but it 
>>>>>>>>>> might take
>>>>>>>>>> a few days.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 10:02:27 AM UTC-5 Jon Orwant
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> chart.googleapis.com and chart.apis.google.com are the same;
>>>>>>>>>>> neither should be used and were deprecated in 2012.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For QR codes, there are non-Google solutions that people have
>>>>>>>>>>> reported success with. You'll find those solutions in the archive 
>>>>>>>>>>> of this
>>>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 10:00 AM Vishwanath Nagur <
>>>>>>>>>>> vis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://chart.googleapis.com/chart ~~~ is throwing 502 because
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the reasons you mentioned.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is https://chart.apis.google.com/chart? ~~~ also part of [
>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Image Charts API] for shutting down? Or this is the one 
>>>>>>>>>>>> with which
>>>>>>>>>>>> we need to replace with?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't find any information for QR code generation on actively
>>>>>>>>>>>> maintained Charts help - https://developers.google.com/chart
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you please guide me for an alternate service?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Appreciate your help on this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 6:48:29 AM UTC+9 Jon Orwant
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. If users aren't monitoring the groups, there's no way
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to reach them other than shutting off the service and hoping 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people notice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 4:45:23 PM UTC-5
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sc...@wunderkind.co wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're also SO dependent on Google Image Charts. We have them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> embedded in all of our Looker emails. We'll begin a migration 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something else, but will also appreciate as much time as we can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon -- we appreciate y'all not completely shutting it off,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it was really unclear if the downtime was intentional until 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this thread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:11:02 AM UTC-5 Thien Vu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jon,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need time to develop our own solution. Can you keep the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service running as much as possible? if not keep the service 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long time, please give us the deadline, thanks for your support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, Thien
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 2:49:09 PM UTC+7 Jon Orwant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've turned it back on for the moment. Please migrate ASAP,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 2:43 AM Thien Vu <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thien...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jon,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are using https://chart.googleapis.com/chart to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generate QR code, we experienced error 502, can you please 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temporarily turn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it on for a few days for a temporary solution urgently? We 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will replace the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service in the meantime.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 1:56:28 AM UTC+7 Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orwant wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just turned it back on. We don't have a fixed schedule
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than "several hours every day". If there's a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular day/time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> period you need the service up, I can accommodate, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please do migrate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off of it ASAP!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 1:54:34 PM UTC-5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> br...@hemesath.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this service now 100% off / deactivated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If not, is there a blackout schedule that you can share?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 8:41:26 AM UTC-6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stefan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jon,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yesterday i got 502 also for generating qr code images,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but today is working well. Should i change to another 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution to create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this QR code images? i i checked, google api images was  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deprecated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stefan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 1:53:45 AM UTC+7 Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orwant wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Approximately:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wednesday from 1818 to 1935 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thursday from 1710 to 1930 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today from 1530 to 1815 GMT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 1:48:23 PM UTC-5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alperen.k...@useinsider.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Jon,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you tell me exactly when you closed it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday 5 January 2024 at 21:14:42 UTC+3 Jon Orwant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's been on the documentation page for many years:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/chart/image
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not in the HTTP response. I'm not even sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether it's possible to put free text into an HTTP 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> response, although I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concede that would have been a good thing to do if so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimately the only effective mechanism we had was to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn the service off for increasingly long periods of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time. My apologies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we didn't have a better solution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll turn it back on now, but will turn it off again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for several hours tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 1:08 PM Cat <kat...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would it not be smart to announce that on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation page and also as message part of the 502 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BAD Gateway??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> response which indicates some other error. Noone will be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that correctly. Everybody will wait til it shows up 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *410 Gone: Charts API was deprecated in 2012 and is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finally being turned off.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://developers.google.com/chart?hl=en
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is really an uphill battle to fight against
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deprecations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As Google Appengine customer I have a VERY long list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of APIs to replace.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reminds me on Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon Orwant schrieb am Freitag, 5. Jänner 2024 um
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18:51:23 UTC+1:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're asking about the Google Image Charts API,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which was deprecated in 2012 and is finally, 12 years 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> later, being turned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off. We're taking it down for increasingly long periods 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of time every day,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to flush out users who might not realize they're using 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an antiquated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> service, in anticipation of a complete turndown next 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Google Image Charts API is completely different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Google Charts, a JavaScript library that is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actively developed and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintained.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 12:49:02 PM UTC-5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> umut....@useinsider.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get 502 error on chart api, is ther any problem on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also I couldn't find any status page about chart API
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> , if exist could you share.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://useinsider.com/nrf-big-show/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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