Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-02-06 Thread DaBlick
it was non-existent than it was to say that it's poor. I looked at the recent additions to the Wiki that you pointed me to, and I still maintain the accuracy of my characterization but... 1) We ARE using Ext-GWT and we are glad we are using it. Documentation is a serious complaint but we're happy

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-02-04 Thread Miles T.
On 31 jan, 05:42, DaBlick dabl...@gmail.com wrote: We used GWT-Ext and tossed it in favor of Ext-GWT (often referred to as GXT). I've said this before in this forum so I'll just be brief here as you can search the forum for more details. - It's been said MANY times so you know it's true

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-02-04 Thread maku
-existent. The wiki is in work in progress :http://extjs.com/learn/Learn_About_the_Ext_GWT_Library and there is also a small help centerhttp://extjs.com/helpcenter/index.jsp On 31 jan, 05:42, DaBlick dabl...@gmail.com wrote: We used GWT-Ext and tossed it in favor of Ext-GWT (often referred

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-02-04 Thread Arthur Kalmenson
and in the very first phase we know that we need a sortable grid that could be very large, so what must we do? Must we implement a data model and a paging table or a big grid with caching or must we use one of Ext-GWT, IT Mill, or SmartGWT? Should I reinvent the wheel when there are three different

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-02-04 Thread getaceres
with caching or must we use one of Ext-GWT, IT Mill, or SmartGWT? Should I reinvent the wheel when there are three different toolkits with the widgets that I need? On Feb 4, 9:57 am, Miles T. dupont.nico...@gmail.com wrote: Just a word about documentation. It is true that the documentation is far

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-02-04 Thread getaceres
first phase we know that we need a sortable grid that could be very large, so what must we do? Must we implement a data model and a paging table or a big grid with caching or must we use one of Ext-GWT, IT Mill, or SmartGWT? Should I reinvent the wheel when there are three different

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-02-04 Thread Isaac Truett
and in the very first phase we know that we need a sortable grid that could be very large, so what must we do? Must we implement a data model and a paging table or a big grid with caching or must we use one of Ext-GWT, IT Mill, or SmartGWT? Should I reinvent the wheel when there are three different

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-02-04 Thread Arthur Kalmenson
must we do? Must we implement a data model and a paging table or a big grid with caching or must we use one of Ext-GWT, IT Mill, or SmartGWT? Should I reinvent the wheel when there are three different toolkits with the widgets that I need? On Feb 4, 9:57 am, Miles T. dupont.nico

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-01-30 Thread DaBlick
We used GWT-Ext and tossed it in favor of Ext-GWT (often referred to as GXT). I've said this before in this forum so I'll just be brief here as you can search the forum for more details. - It's been said MANY times so you know it's true: It wouldn't be accurate to say the documentation is poor

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2009-01-29 Thread hbatista
Not to resurrect the thread, but I feel I need to add some input to this, as I've been using Gwt-Ext for over a year now. I've been using it in a big and complex application, and the results have been great. Now, about some points people have raised: -Slowness: if you design your application

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-12-02 Thread Miles T.
I understand, my company also didn't want to work with GPL (although I wanted to) :-p So they purchased the ~300$ commercial license for me. On 1 déc, 20:57, TedM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah but EXT-GWT is a no go for my company because of the license On Dec 1, 11:10 am, Miles T. [EMAIL

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-12-01 Thread Arthur Kalmenson
That's fine, but you also need to consider future maintenance of your application. If your application is going to have any substantial life time and going to have to be extended and maintained, you're going to have a pretty hard time with gwt ext or ext gwt. However, I know the mentality

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-12-01 Thread Miles T.
On 1 déc, 14:41, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quick, get it out the door, I don't care that there aren't any test cases Actually, if you look into their SVN repository, you'll see that there are (only) a few test cases in GWT-Ext. In fact, GWT-Ext is wrapping ExtJS and only

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-12-01 Thread TedM
Yeah but EXT-GWT is a no go for my company because of the license On Dec 1, 11:10 am, Miles T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 déc, 14:41, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quick, get it out the door, I don't care that there aren't any test cases Actually, if you look

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-27 Thread Arthur Kalmenson
robust and structured code with Ext GWT. Actually it's the complete lack of flexibility. You have to work with Ext GWT's constraints, and work around it's buggy code and crappy event model. Well, actually I don't think price is a problem. Both products (GWT Designer and Ext GWT) are cheaper than

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-27 Thread Niklas Derouche
as a snail but a nice shiny turd of a web application, you use Ext GWT. So let me see if I understod you correctly; you don't like Ext GWT? Seriously, not liking stuff is fine. It's more than fine as far as I am concerned. I wish you all the best in your future endeavours and sometime down the line when

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-27 Thread TedM
to develop a sortable table. Also I've studied the incubator widgets and found them also do be lacking to GWT-EXT and EXT-GWT. I've recently requested a sponsor in the incubator project to see if I can help GWT move toward a richer widget set goal. I hope I'll be able to help. On Nov 27

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-25 Thread Miles T.
On 22 nov, 16:29, Arthur Kalmenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree with Nicolas. We experimented with gwt-ext on one of our projects and had to backtrack because it was so slow, had far too many bugs, and was just a pain to work with. It even prevented you from using hosted mode because

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-22 Thread Arthur Kalmenson
I disagree with Nicolas. We experimented with gwt-ext on one of our projects and had to backtrack because it was so slow, had far too many bugs, and was just a pain to work with. It even prevented you from using hosted mode because it was so slow!! If you watch this mailing list at all, you'll

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-20 Thread Nicolas
want a fully customized design, maybe vanilla GWT is better. I have tested both libraries and choose to use Ext GWT. I use it since April and it makes me saving a lot of time. Here is the result of my comparison : Ext GWT (the ExtJS GWT library) : ++ this is a fully native GWT library

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-06 Thread Arthur Kalmenson
This is a common theme, and as I said above, I highly recommend keeping far away from ext gwt or gwt ext. You can get the same shininess with some nice CSS. -- Arthur Kalmenson On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:08 AM, zebulon303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to use ext-gwt for a few days

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-05 Thread zebulon303
I am trying to use ext-gwt for a few days, and I get crazy because of the really poor documentation available, you only have the code to understand what you are doing, and not enough general guidelines. I don't know how it is for GWT ext, but I will definitely have a look. I am really new

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-11-05 Thread yunhui song
I've used gwt-ext for about one month and used that for a quite complex real world project. I've also tried to use ext-gwt.(It seems that ext-gwt support ext2.2 but gwt-ext suport 2.0.2 and lower version). From my current understanding, gwt-ext is very stable and has much more features that ext

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-29 Thread alex.d
On 29 Okt., 03:46, rlaferla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 28, 3:25 am, alex.d [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ext GWT definitely. It's nativa Java-GWT code vs. Javascript wrapper. Even though you have to pay for it it's worth it. Sounds good but what are some of the problems that one may

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-29 Thread maku
This is a good advice when you have much time and the expertise to develop nice looking widgets. But in reality this is not the case. From my point of view a small team is not able to develop something which is as good as ExtGwt (aka GXT). (E.g. a powerful grid component) We took GXT to

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-29 Thread rakesh wagh
I would agree with Arthur Kalmenson . And that is the reason why we used vanilla gwt over ext. you will miss that blazing performance in ext libs. Do not get fooled with attractive showcase. With that said, from look and feel + user experience perspective, ext is probably the best and complete

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-29 Thread rakesh wagh
Folks, correction to my first post. The original contributor of gwt- ext is probably still part of the project, though not as active. http://gwt-ext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12p=10318sid=c4b4b0a204e3891ad392622656a65684#p10318 Rakesh Wagh On Oct 27, 2:17 pm, rakesh wagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-28 Thread alex.d
Ext GWT definitely. It's nativa Java-GWT code vs. Javascript wrapper. Even though you have to pay for it it's worth it. On 28 Okt., 03:10, hezjing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Yes, I agree with omsrobert that the license is one of the deciding factors. However, the GWT-Ext LGPL license (http

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-28 Thread Arthur Kalmenson
I would say go with neither. If you look at the group, you'll find that there are endless problems with these libraries. They're shoddy, poorly put together, slow and nowhere near the level of quality that you come to expect from GWT. The library is made by Javascript developers who have little

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-28 Thread rlaferla
On Oct 28, 3:25 am, alex.d [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ext GWT definitely. It's nativa Java-GWT code vs. Javascript wrapper. Even though you have to pay for it it's worth it. Sounds good but what are some of the problems that one may encounter with GWT-Ext? Also, GWT-Ext has GWT-Plus to connect

GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-27 Thread Suri
Not sure if there is a thread ever discussed on this. If so, I'd appreciate help in locating it. Tried a search and it decided to exclude the gwt part and search only for ext which isn't much help. Anyway, for all the people using either of these, I figure it might be good to get some feedback on

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-27 Thread rakesh wagh
I have used GWT-ext but not ext-GWT. GWT-ext was a hot favorite before ext-js went commercial and before the ext team themselves launched ext-GWT. Now that gwt support is provided by the ext team themselves, I think it will make more sense to use ext-gwt. Moreover Sanjeev Jeevan the original

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-27 Thread omsrobert
I think licensing is one of the deciding factors: GWT-Ext (http://gwt-ext.com/) is free, open source. There is a companion, commercial product called GWT Plus (same author) that facilitates binding data objects to the widget record store. Ext GWT (http://extjs.com/products/gxt/) is now

Re: GWT-ext or ext-GWT?

2008-10-27 Thread hezjing
Hi Yes, I agree with omsrobert that the license is one of the deciding factors. However, the GWT-Ext LGPL license (http://gwt-ext.com/license/) applies only to use of GWT-Ext with Ext versions 2.0.2 or lower. I'm not sure, but will Ext 2.0.2 ends of support? How does Ext 2.0.2 affects us? Should