Re: How to rescue Classic Dev Mode?

2015-06-23 Thread Thomas Broyer
Google (who proposed that change of direction) has only internal *customers*; we outside Google are not customers, we're a community of users of a FLOSS project. Sencha and Vaadin, and to some extent Arcbees and RedHat, *do* have customers though, and they don't seem to disagree with those

Re: How to rescue Classic Dev Mode?

2015-06-22 Thread Wesley.JUNG
I'd like to see completely renovated GWT 3.0, even some other name rather than GWT will welcome. Whoever want to use current Widget library better stay at GWT 2.8.. On Sunday, June 21, 2015 at 12:38:13 PM UTC-4, Lukas Glowania wrote: Hi, like many people i think Super Dev Mode is quite a

Re: How to rescue Classic Dev Mode?

2015-06-22 Thread bobbitdiddle
The GWT team might want to survey existing users of their product before breaking backcompat. A normal company wants to keep customers happy, and provide updates that don't break existing code bases. However, I suppose a company with a huge market share and endless resources can act with

Re: How to rescue Classic Dev Mode?

2015-06-22 Thread Alain Ekambi
Dont get it wrong. Steering community and all is nice but at the end f the day they will do what s good for Google. Even though I m still not sure 3.0 is a bad move though. Time will tell. On 22 June 2015 at 23:33, bobbitdid...@gmail.com wrote: The GWT team might want to survey existing

Re: How to rescue Classic Dev Mode?

2015-06-22 Thread Wesley.JUNG
Evert thing has start and the end in their life cycle. No product can continue forever. I think GWT is too fat to add more modern feature. It's time to branch out and prune out. On Sunday, June 21, 2015 at 12:38:13 PM UTC-4, Lukas Glowania wrote: Hi, like many people i think Super Dev Mode

Re: How to rescue Classic Dev Mode?

2015-06-22 Thread Pedro LamarĂ£o
This is an open source project. The source code is freely available. Just a reminder. P. Em segunda-feira, 22 de junho de 2015 18:33:21 UTC-3, bobbit...@gmail.com escreveu: The GWT team might want to survey existing users of their product before breaking backcompat. A normal company wants

Re: How to rescue Classic Dev Mode?

2015-06-22 Thread Jens
Say WHAT!? JSNI is going to be removed!? They realize that's going to break a bunch of existing code, right? It only breaks if you upgrade to GWT 3.0 and GWT 3.0 is expected to be a very breaking upgrade. So a lot of code will simply stay at GWT 2.8. -- J. -- You received this

Re: How to rescue Classic Dev Mode?

2015-06-22 Thread bobbitdiddle
On Sunday, June 21, 2015 at 3:20:51 PM UTC-5, Thomas Broyer wrote: On Sunday, June 21, 2015 at 9:35:35 PM UTC+2, Lukas Glowania wrote: Which announcements in particular would make it to a dead end? The new compiler, JSNI (removed) vs. JsInterop (doesn't work in DevMode). That would

Re: How to rescue Classic Dev Mode?

2015-06-22 Thread bobbitdiddle
On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 6:19:27 AM UTC-5, Jens wrote: Say WHAT!? JSNI is going to be removed!? They realize that's going to break a bunch of existing code, right? It only breaks if you upgrade to GWT 3.0 and GWT 3.0 is expected to be a very breaking upgrade. So a lot of code will

How to rescue Classic Dev Mode?

2015-06-21 Thread Lukas Glowania
Hi, like many people i think Super Dev Mode is quite a pain. Of course SDM and its IDE support is getting better and better, but i guess it will always feel workaroundish compared to Dev Mode. So what could be done to make modern Browsers work with Dev Mode? Dev Mode works with NPAPI, that

Re: How to rescue Classic Dev Mode?

2015-06-21 Thread Thomas Broyer
On Sunday, June 21, 2015 at 6:38:13 PM UTC+2, Lukas Glowania wrote: Hi, like many people i think Super Dev Mode is quite a pain. Of course SDM and its IDE support is getting better and better, but i guess it will always feel workaroundish compared to Dev Mode. So what could be done to

Re: How to rescue Classic Dev Mode?

2015-06-21 Thread Thomas Broyer
On Sunday, June 21, 2015 at 9:35:35 PM UTC+2, Lukas Glowania wrote: Which announcements in particular would make it to a dead end? The new compiler, JSNI (removed) vs. JsInterop (doesn't work in DevMode). That would require rewriting a whole lot of DevMode for GWT 3.0. -- You received

Re: How to rescue Classic Dev Mode?

2015-06-21 Thread Lukas Glowania
Which announcements in particular would make it to a dead end? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to