Re: Third party libraries for GWT
We are using Ext GWT and we are happy with it... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to Google-Web-Toolkit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Third party libraries for GWT
Hi, Thanks for ur suggestion but is it possible to avoid using EXT GWT and make it work with only GWT itself On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Antonio Leonforte antonio.leonfo...@fhoster.com wrote: We are using Ext GWT and we are happy with it... -- Regards, Mittal Thakkar --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to Google-Web-Toolkit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Third party libraries for GWT
Same for me. I'm using Ext GWT for half a year now and I'm very pleased with it. What I like most beside the widgets is the well designed MVC part. It's small, elegant and extendable. For instance I extended the XML readers to work with the GWT module of the Restlet framework. On 16 Feb., 12:13, Alexandros Papadakis alpa...@gmail.com wrote: Same here, Ext GWT for the past few months. Quite happy, they fix bugs fast, they also release fast. On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Miles T. dupont.nico...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Feb 15, 8:08 pm, mikedshaf...@gmail.com mikedshaf...@gmail.com wrote: I've used both and they both allow for a look and feel on your GWT app that would take a lot of custom development to achieve. +1. I have been using Ext GWT for 4 months and it provides the following features : lookfeels, containers/layout, MVC framework, GWT RPC integration... I can't tell you about Smart but as far as I know, Smart GWT is a JS wrapper whereas Ext GWT is a full GWT-based library. Cheers. Miles They both have some very nice widgets in both functionality and look. Ext GWT is a commercial, paid for library, Smart GWT is free and open source. I think that Ext GWT is a bit more stable, but neither is particularly unstable. The Smart GWT guys are also working on some interesting server side linkage to the UI components. Both have features that neither have. Being very attractive modern UI components, neither is light weight as they require a bunch of javascript and some nifty DOM manipulation (like all of the other Javascript UI libraries mind you!). So if your prospective client machines are a bunch of old Pentium III's running IE6 (my current burden!) then neither is particularily a good choice. In the end, I would score them as a tie. If your organization won't pay for their libraries, then Smart GWT is the only way to go. If your organization can't or won't use open source type of stuff, then Ext GWT is the way. Both require a lot of diligence and effort, as any good UI library does. But after a little learning curve, you'll be able to produce web UI's that are in a class equal to the richest heavy client. Good luck. Later, Shaffer On Feb 14, 10:53 pm, Shawn Brown big.coffee.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I came across GWT EXT, EXT GWT, SmartGwt, and a ton of other third party libraries. 1. Which third-party libraries would you recommend in general and why. 2. Which third-party libraries would you want to stay away from and why. Well anyone can correct me if I am wrong but I think GWT EXT development has stopped since it's basically a wrapper around ext JS (same makers of EXT GWT) which switched it's license to gpl3. this means GWT EXT only works with an older version of EXT JS that may not have bug fixes or security fixes. GWT EXT recommends switching over to SmartGwt ... seehttp://gwt-ext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13t=3465 Shawn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to Google-Web-Toolkit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Third party libraries for GWT
We've been using Ext-GWT for about 4 months now. As has been said, bugs are fixed quite rapidly.We like the MVC architecture. The only knock , and you'll hear this from others, is that there is very little documentation at the moment and the way you learn this library is you either pay them to come give you lessons or you reverse engineer the code examples. But... that having been said, a new book from APress is supposedly going to be out by April of 2009 and if that's so, it would eliminate this one criticism. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to Google-Web-Toolkit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Third party libraries for GWT
I'd also point out that gwt-mosaic is, from what I've heard since I haven't used it myself, a good library that's built using regular GWT and GWT incubator widgets: http://code.google.com/p/gwt-mosaic/. -- Arthur Kalmenson On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Omer Shakil omer.sha...@gmail.com wrote: Today while searching on the web, I came across GWT EXT, EXT GWT, SmartGwt, and a ton of other third party libraries. I found a lot of arguments in favor and against them. Can we summarize them here once again please? In short: 1. Which third-party libraries would you recommend in general and why. 2. Which third-party libraries would you want to stay away from and why. Thanks in advance. Omer --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to Google-Web-Toolkit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Third party libraries for GWT
Hi, On Feb 15, 8:08 pm, mikedshaf...@gmail.com mikedshaf...@gmail.com wrote: I've used both and they both allow for a look and feel on your GWT app that would take a lot of custom development to achieve. +1. I have been using Ext GWT for 4 months and it provides the following features : lookfeels, containers/layout, MVC framework, GWT RPC integration... I can't tell you about Smart but as far as I know, Smart GWT is a JS wrapper whereas Ext GWT is a full GWT-based library. Cheers. Miles They both have some very nice widgets in both functionality and look. Ext GWT is a commercial, paid for library, Smart GWT is free and open source. I think that Ext GWT is a bit more stable, but neither is particularly unstable. The Smart GWT guys are also working on some interesting server side linkage to the UI components. Both have features that neither have. Being very attractive modern UI components, neither is light weight as they require a bunch of javascript and some nifty DOM manipulation (like all of the other Javascript UI libraries mind you!). So if your prospective client machines are a bunch of old Pentium III's running IE6 (my current burden!) then neither is particularily a good choice. In the end, I would score them as a tie. If your organization won't pay for their libraries, then Smart GWT is the only way to go. If your organization can't or won't use open source type of stuff, then Ext GWT is the way. Both require a lot of diligence and effort, as any good UI library does. But after a little learning curve, you'll be able to produce web UI's that are in a class equal to the richest heavy client. Good luck. Later, Shaffer On Feb 14, 10:53 pm, Shawn Brown big.coffee.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I came across GWT EXT, EXT GWT, SmartGwt, and a ton of other third party libraries. 1. Which third-party libraries would you recommend in general and why. 2. Which third-party libraries would you want to stay away from and why. Well anyone can correct me if I am wrong but I think GWT EXT development has stopped since it's basically a wrapper around ext JS (same makers of EXT GWT) which switched it's license to gpl3. this means GWT EXT only works with an older version of EXT JS that may not have bug fixes or security fixes. GWT EXT recommends switching over to SmartGwt ... seehttp://gwt-ext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13t=3465 Shawn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to Google-Web-Toolkit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Third party libraries for GWT
Same here, Ext GWT for the past few months. Quite happy, they fix bugs fast, they also release fast. On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Miles T. dupont.nico...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Feb 15, 8:08 pm, mikedshaf...@gmail.com mikedshaf...@gmail.com wrote: I've used both and they both allow for a look and feel on your GWT app that would take a lot of custom development to achieve. +1. I have been using Ext GWT for 4 months and it provides the following features : lookfeels, containers/layout, MVC framework, GWT RPC integration... I can't tell you about Smart but as far as I know, Smart GWT is a JS wrapper whereas Ext GWT is a full GWT-based library. Cheers. Miles They both have some very nice widgets in both functionality and look. Ext GWT is a commercial, paid for library, Smart GWT is free and open source. I think that Ext GWT is a bit more stable, but neither is particularly unstable. The Smart GWT guys are also working on some interesting server side linkage to the UI components. Both have features that neither have. Being very attractive modern UI components, neither is light weight as they require a bunch of javascript and some nifty DOM manipulation (like all of the other Javascript UI libraries mind you!). So if your prospective client machines are a bunch of old Pentium III's running IE6 (my current burden!) then neither is particularily a good choice. In the end, I would score them as a tie. If your organization won't pay for their libraries, then Smart GWT is the only way to go. If your organization can't or won't use open source type of stuff, then Ext GWT is the way. Both require a lot of diligence and effort, as any good UI library does. But after a little learning curve, you'll be able to produce web UI's that are in a class equal to the richest heavy client. Good luck. Later, Shaffer On Feb 14, 10:53 pm, Shawn Brown big.coffee.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I came across GWT EXT, EXT GWT, SmartGwt, and a ton of other third party libraries. 1. Which third-party libraries would you recommend in general and why. 2. Which third-party libraries would you want to stay away from and why. Well anyone can correct me if I am wrong but I think GWT EXT development has stopped since it's basically a wrapper around ext JS (same makers of EXT GWT) which switched it's license to gpl3. this means GWT EXT only works with an older version of EXT JS that may not have bug fixes or security fixes. GWT EXT recommends switching over to SmartGwt ... seehttp://gwt-ext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13t=3465 Shawn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to Google-Web-Toolkit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Third party libraries for GWT
The two major UI libraries right now for GWT are Ext GWT and Smart GWT. There are some similarities and some differences. I've used both and they both allow for a look and feel on your GWT app that would take a lot of custom development to achieve. They both have some very nice widgets in both functionality and look. Ext GWT is a commercial, paid for library, Smart GWT is free and open source. I think that Ext GWT is a bit more stable, but neither is particularly unstable. The Smart GWT guys are also working on some interesting server side linkage to the UI components. Both have features that neither have. Being very attractive modern UI components, neither is light weight as they require a bunch of javascript and some nifty DOM manipulation (like all of the other Javascript UI libraries mind you!). So if your prospective client machines are a bunch of old Pentium III's running IE6 (my current burden!) then neither is particularily a good choice. In the end, I would score them as a tie. If your organization won't pay for their libraries, then Smart GWT is the only way to go. If your organization can't or won't use open source type of stuff, then Ext GWT is the way. Both require a lot of diligence and effort, as any good UI library does. But after a little learning curve, you'll be able to produce web UI's that are in a class equal to the richest heavy client. Good luck. Later, Shaffer On Feb 14, 10:53 pm, Shawn Brown big.coffee.lo...@gmail.com wrote: I came across GWT EXT, EXT GWT, SmartGwt, and a ton of other third party libraries. 1. Which third-party libraries would you recommend in general and why. 2. Which third-party libraries would you want to stay away from and why. Well anyone can correct me if I am wrong but I think GWT EXT development has stopped since it's basically a wrapper around ext JS (same makers of EXT GWT) which switched it's license to gpl3. this means GWT EXT only works with an older version of EXT JS that may not have bug fixes or security fixes. GWT EXT recommends switching over to SmartGwt ... seehttp://gwt-ext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13t=3465 Shawn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to Google-Web-Toolkit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Third party libraries for GWT
Hello, Ext GWT is a commercial, paid for library, Smart GWT is free and open source. This is currently inaccurate. EXT GWT is GPL v3. It is dual licensed actually so if you do need a commercial license... http://www.extjs.com/products/license-faq.php If your organization won't pay for their libraries, then Smart GWT is the only way to go. If your organization can't or won't use open source type of stuff, then Ext GWT is the way. The Smart GWT guys are also working on some interesting server side linkage to the UI components. I just use the reverse AJAX feature in DWR and push data out from the server to GWT. DWR has a pretty good reputation in terms of security so that solution is fine for me. Shawn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to Google-Web-Toolkit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Third party libraries for GWT
Thanks for the point of clarification on Ext GWT...my bad. Our organization doesn't do the whole open source gig (long story) so I've kind of checked out of all the variations. Yes, they are GPL v3 Haven't actually looked at the connection between DWR and GWT. Worth a look! On Feb 15, 6:22 pm, Shawn Brown big.coffee.lo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Ext GWT is a commercial, paid for library, Smart GWT is free and open source. This is currently inaccurate. EXT GWT is GPL v3. It is dual licensed actually so if you do need a commercial license... http://www.extjs.com/products/license-faq.php If your organization won't pay for their libraries, then Smart GWT is the only way to go. If your organization can't or won't use open source type of stuff, then Ext GWT is the way. The Smart GWT guys are also working on some interesting server side linkage to the UI components. I just use the reverse AJAX feature in DWR and push data out from the server to GWT. DWR has a pretty good reputation in terms of security so that solution is fine for me. Shawn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to Google-Web-Toolkit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Third party libraries for GWT
Today while searching on the web, I came across GWT EXT, EXT GWT, SmartGwt, and a ton of other third party libraries. I found a lot of arguments in favor and against them. Can we summarize them here once again please? In short: 1. Which third-party libraries would you recommend in general and why. 2. Which third-party libraries would you want to stay away from and why. Thanks in advance. Omer --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to Google-Web-Toolkit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Third party libraries for GWT
I came across GWT EXT, EXT GWT, SmartGwt, and a ton of other third party libraries. 1. Which third-party libraries would you recommend in general and why. 2. Which third-party libraries would you want to stay away from and why. Well anyone can correct me if I am wrong but I think GWT EXT development has stopped since it's basically a wrapper around ext JS (same makers of EXT GWT) which switched it's license to gpl3. this means GWT EXT only works with an older version of EXT JS that may not have bug fixes or security fixes. GWT EXT recommends switching over to SmartGwt ... see http://gwt-ext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13t=3465 Shawn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to Google-Web-Toolkit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
