Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-05-07 Thread Jmscavaleiro
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?fromgroups#!topic/google-web-toolkit/uibTKAPXWV0 Here is more info from Google about GWT. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-05-04 Thread thumky
After evaluating many different technologies, i'm starting an ambitious project with GWT for our company. Even knowing what i know about the uncertainty of its future, i'm still choosing it. Because nothing really comes close in terms of high performing enterprise web app development. I'd hope

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-05-04 Thread emurmur
I've decided to go with GWT as well. It's mature and solid. It integrates really well javascript and there are many important related projects (like PhoneGap integration). Ray's comments regarding ongoing efforts have been very helpful. I'm particularly anxious to try out Elemental. I've been

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-05-02 Thread Joshua Kappon
Hey Ray, how about that Hangout? :) On Saturday, April 21, 2012 3:23:03 AM UTC+3, Ray Cromwell wrote: If I told you the number of monthly active GWT developers, I think you would be quite impressed. A hangout sounds like a good idea, I will look into setting one up soon. -Ray On

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-05-02 Thread Daniel Guermeur
+1 -- Daniel Guermeur w +1 512 346 0360 m +1 512 554 6727 www.metadot.com the maker of www.daskeyboard.com and www.mojohelpdesk.com On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Joshua Kappon shuky.kap...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Ray, how about that Hangout? :) On Saturday, April 21, 2012 3:23:03 AM UTC+3,

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-27 Thread Mauro
+1 Em segunda-feira, 23 de abril de 2012 12h55min27s UTC-3, Jmscavaleiro escreveu: We are investing our time, our job and our life on/with GWT so we need to be more informed and we need to know with what we can count. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-27 Thread Steve
Don't know if anyone has posted this link yet, but here goes. https://plus.google.com/110412141990454266397/posts/8nmmgp4AChM Not quite a roadmap, but it IS signs of external communication. :) I'm not as worried anymore. I'm betting that we'll see some really cool stuff out of IO. On Monday,

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-23 Thread Jmscavaleiro
We are investing our time, our job and our life on/with GWT so we need to be more informed and we need to know with what we can count. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-22 Thread Trey Roby
A paragraph or two every couple of months about what you are working on would make a huge difference. Trey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-22 Thread Cristian Rinaldi
I honestly do not think that GWT is dying. The community is very large, and we need answers, especially for new projects!!! For all this, Ray thank you very much for the comments, have given us an interesting perspective, we look forward to news good! A.U.S Cristian Rinaldi Teléfono Móvil: (0342)

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-22 Thread Jim
If Google can provide GWT support service, that will be super, which is a win-win for companies who has GWT in production and Google GWT development team. Jim On Apr 22, 10:59 am, Cristian Rinaldi cristian.rina...@logikas.com wrote: I honestly do not think that GWT is dying. The community is

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-22 Thread Thomas Broyer
On Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:21:33 PM UTC+2, Jim wrote: If Google can provide GWT support service, that will be super, which is a win-win for companies who has GWT in production and Google GWT development team. If you need support, we're here: http://www.atolcd.com ;-) -- You received

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-21 Thread Joshua Kappon
Great! Thanks for Ray, looking forward hearing from you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-web-toolkit/-/F_zzFyjpQYMJ. To post to this group,

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-21 Thread Blake McBride
Thanks Ray. Even this small piece of information affects my decisioning and comfort level. Thanks. Blake McBride On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Joshua Kappon shuky.kap...@gmail.comwrote: Great! Thanks for Ray, looking forward hearing from you. -- You received this message because you

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-21 Thread Evan Ruff
Just phew Back to regularly scheduled programming. E On Friday, April 20, 2012 6:28:16 PM UTC-4, Ray Cromwell wrote: Over the past year, the GWT team did lose some people (Ray Ryan/Bob Vawter), some moved to other projects, and some recently left for a startup (Bruce/Joel/Kelly).

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-21 Thread Brandon Donnelson
I don't see GWT getting killed or going anywhere anytime soon. I see tons of development on it from quite a few different employees all over the world. I think they could nip this in the bud getting some employees to drip a little more info into the blogs on random topics now and then. --

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread Luc Claes
The two GWT founders, Bruce Johnson and Joel Webber, have left Google and are creating a new startup: http://www.monetology.com/team On Thursday, April 19, 2012 9:11:38 PM UTC+2, Supercobra Thatbytes wrote: Obviously something is happening. One of the first thing you do as a team lead of a

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread Roger Studner
That is one awful looking website. *eats popcorn* On Apr 20, 2012, at 2:22 AM, Luc Claes wrote: The two GWT founders, Bruce Johnson and Joel Webber, have left Google and are creating a new startup: http://www.monetology.com/team On Thursday, April 19, 2012 9:11:38 PM UTC+2, Supercobra

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread Kim Ras
+1 On Monday, April 2, 2012 5:19:16 PM UTC+2, Joshua Kappon wrote: With the rise of the new developers.google.com, and with Google trying to rally up developers using Google technologies and products, and the rise of Dart and unclear future of GWT, I think it's about time that Google will

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread Marko
On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:57:31 PM UTC+2, Trey Roby wrote: There is a significant difference between having to watch the GWT Contributor Google group and an official post to the GWT blog. Not posting to the official blog is surely a sign of internal GWT problems. A healthy project is

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread Marko
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Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread laxman lingampally
Hi all, Please tell me anybady How to communicate with database using GWT with requestFactory , please tell me ASAP. Thaks Regards Laxman On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 1:30 PM, dominikz dominik.zalew...@gmail.comwrote: For over a year I was trying to convince my customers (that I develop

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread Raja Khan
+1 I think GWT is a great tool. If google don't kill it then sooner or later all companies will be looking into it. Google should not drop products in a hurry, if it wants to build a reputation like No body has lost a job if he/she has selected Google product. I hope google's senior management

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread b0b
The biggest problem with web frameworks is that you have no visiblity into their future. And the fact that sometimes Google does not hesisate to can products doesn't help. The is very must unlike say J2EE which existed 10 years ago and that you can mostly be guaranteed will still exist in 10

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread Travis Camechis
One thing for sure is that the code base is still being actively developed if you look at the activity on the repository. It will be curious to see how much talk there will be about GWT at this years Google IO. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:50 AM, b0b pujos.mich...@gmail.com wrote: The biggest

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread Roger Studner
I believe there are a total of … 0.. sessions about GWT. Roger On Apr 20, 2012, at 8:18 AM, Travis Camechis wrote: One thing for sure is that the code base is still being actively developed if you look at the activity on the repository. It will be curious to see how much talk there will

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread Travis Camechis
that is probably not a good sign. On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Roger Studner rstud...@gmail.com wrote: I believe there are a total of … 0.. sessions about GWT. Roger On Apr 20, 2012, at 8:18 AM, Travis Camechis wrote: One thing for sure is that the code base is still being actively

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread dominikz
One of the links posted in this thread some time ago lead to Ray Cromwell's g+ post about new GWT features. I believe he will be presenting this on Google I/O (as he is each year). Btw. where did you get the info with '0' session on GWT on Google I/O. I can't seem to find it on conference

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread Steve
Sessions haven't been officially posted yet. On the G+ thread, someone said they had emailed the google IO support email to ask if there was any GWT specific sessions. They told him that they could neither confirm or deny that sessions were planned. To which, his boss told him that purchasing

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread Ray Cromwell
Over the past year, the GWT team did lose some people (Ray Ryan/Bob Vawter), some moved to other projects, and some recently left for a startup (Bruce/Joel/Kelly). One of our team members went for maternity leave, as a result, we didn't have enough resources to simultaneously focus on the

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread Daniel Guermeur
Awesome. Thanks for the update. -- Daniel Guermeur w +1 512 346 0360 m +1 512 554 6727 www.metadot.com the maker of www.daskeyboard.com and www.mojohelpdesk.com On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Ray Cromwell cromwell...@google.comwrote: Over the past year, the GWT team did lose some people

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread Joshua Kappon
Thanks for commenting Ray (and also for keeping us posted on G+) - Super draft mode looks great, and I can't wait to see what else you got up your sleeves. I understand that the GWT team is regrouping, and hope you'll keep us posted. I also feel, that the community wants to be more informed and

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread Ray Cromwell
If I told you the number of monthly active GWT developers, I think you would be quite impressed. A hangout sounds like a good idea, I will look into setting one up soon. -Ray On Friday, April 20, 2012 4:15:27 PM UTC-7, Joshua Kappon wrote: Thanks for commenting Ray (and also for keeping us

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-20 Thread Andrés Testi
Thanks, Ray! I know about your passion for GWT. Regards. - Andrés El viernes, 20 de abril de 2012 21:23:03 UTC-3, Ray Cromwell escribió: If I told you the number of monthly active GWT developers, I think you would be quite impressed. A hangout sounds like a good idea, I will look into

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-19 Thread July
+1 On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 4:48:52 AM UTC+8, emurmur wrote: I'm one of the fence sitters. I have been using Flex/Flash, which has been fantastic, but has no future on the mobile web. I think there are only two mature tools that would allow me to create similarly rich applications;

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-19 Thread Blake McBride
Here is my own personal opinion about what is going on. Initially Google was totally dedicated to GWT. It is a great platform loved by Google and many others. Oracle is suing Google over Java. Google doesn't know where this is going to end and is, quite frankly, sick of the idea that Oracle

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-19 Thread Blake McBride
I have an additional comment. Although I see Google dropping GWT when Dart becomes ready for prime time, I believe GWT will live on as a community project. Additionally, given Google's internal use of GWT, Google is likely to at least minimally support GWT (for its own needs at least) for a

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-19 Thread Supercobra Thatbytes
Obviously something is happening. One of the first thing you do as a team lead of a project that is going to disappear is to remove the developer relations people and reassign team members, which both have been happening in the GWT team. David Chandler, GWT developer relations left the team

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-19 Thread Alan Chaney
Interesting idea, but the issue is that Oracle is suing Google over its use of Dalvik in Android - the basis of the case is that Dalvik breaks the licensing terms of a JDK. Although I totally agree that this may well spread FUD in the long term which will cost Oracle more that it makes out of

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-19 Thread Deepak Singh
GWT 2.5 was supposed to be released in first quarter of 2012 which already passed. Anybody knows why it was not released yet? On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Alan Chaney a...@mechnicality.com wrote: Interesting idea, but the issue is that Oracle is suing Google over its use of Dalvik in

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-18 Thread Mike Dee
Google needs to step up to the plate. If you want to be the caretaker for GWT and you want me (and other developers to use it), I need to know what you have planned. While I'm working on one GWT project now, I will not use it on others until I know what is planned. I need to know what

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-18 Thread kim young ill
+1 no feedback from googlers ??? look like people who bet on GWT is out of luck now. i start getting nervous right now On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Mike Dee mdichiapp...@gmail.com wrote: Google needs to step up to the plate. If you want to be the caretaker for GWT and you want me (and

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-18 Thread Pohl Longsine
I would expect a certain amount of radio-silence in the few months leading up to Google I/O. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-18 Thread Andy Stevko
With all the turn over and David Chandler moving to the Andriod team... Who are the Developer Relations person(s) working on the Web Toolkit product? -- -- A. Stevko === If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. M. Andretti -- You received this message

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-17 Thread Yeroc
Two weeks later and not a single reply by a GWT developer? On any open source project that would be enough to scare users away. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-17 Thread Gražvydas Valeika
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Yeroc cpuff...@gmail.com wrote: Two weeks later and not a single reply by a GWT developer? On any open source project that would be enough to scare users away. According this google+ post: https://plus.google.com/u/0/117361110923472794003/posts 'The

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-17 Thread emurmur
I'm one of the fence sitters. I have been using Flex/Flash, which has been fantastic, but has no future on the mobile web. I think there are only two mature tools that would allow me to create similarly rich applications; GWT and Closure Tools. Google has decided that Javascript won't cut it

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-16 Thread Nagin Kothari
GWT is the very good framework which gives you flexibility to use their in-built widgets or functionality as well allow to work on low level API or customize framework to your need like compiler linker etc. My company does 100% in GWT and Java. Using only one standard language for both server and

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-16 Thread massimo malvestio
According to Google code blog article, Dart can be translated in Javascript to obtain borwsers compliance, http://googlecode.blogspot.it/2011/10/dart-language-for-structured-web.html Dart code can be executed in two different ways: either on a native virtual machine

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-16 Thread Shawn Brown
Honestly, everything sounds to me like a political choice to force people to shift from java platform develepment to Dart platform, leveraging the huge Android diffusion through cellphones and tablets. OK yeah sure maybe it is political but ... What if Oracle wins big against Google in terms

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-15 Thread dominikz
I actually think that the whole mess with Dart is actually to develop a single platform for both Google products: Android and Chrome. Imagine that in a couple of years you could write in the same language both native (to Android) and browser applications. Wouldn't it make be great? Of course

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-15 Thread Joshua Kappon
I personally believe that someone at Google decided GWT is too complicated for web developers out there and has failed the test of getting traction (I know a lot of people are using it, but I think they were aiming for a number similar to the JS community). I personally think that Dart is out

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-15 Thread Carl
GWT is the best thing I've ever come across as a web programmer. My company does 100% in GWT and Java. Using only one standard language for both server and client that works on all browsers is brilliant and unigue. Google, please realize that GWT is awesome and put all your great efforts into

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-15 Thread Thomas Lefort
+1 (for whatever it's worth), totally agree, one language AND it's Java, with all the tools that come with it + it's fast, very fast On Sunday, 15 April 2012 19:41:14 UTC+2, Carl wrote: GWT is the best thing I've ever come across as a web programmer. My company does 100% in GWT and Java.

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-15 Thread Erron
+1 GWT is too complicated. I think even for experts in GWT and/or Java you would have to admit that GWT is quite verbose which turns off alot of JS developers. From what I have seen, Dart looks to be the evolution of GWT. But it still has a longs way to go to be as mature as GWT. On Sunday,

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-14 Thread Andrés Testi
+1 How we can trust in Google APIs and services (AppEngine for example) if they leaves a wide used framework like GWT? Sorry, but you lost credibility. I know, GWT is Open Source and free as a free beer, but this abandon is a mistake. Please, we need feedback. Regards. - Andrés El lunes, 2

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-14 Thread supercobra
I hope Google IO will be a good opportunity for the GWT team to announce new things and update us. However it's never a good sign when a team of developers is not reaching out to their audience. Uncertainty, this feels like. Yeeess. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-14 Thread Frank
I believe you are being over-pessimistic. In my company we are using GWT since 2006 and we have build pretty large and complicated web-apps using GWT. Some webapps created in 2006 (using GWT 1.2) are still being used today without any problem on any modern browser. Normally old stuff keeps

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-14 Thread Raphael André Bauer
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Frank frank.wyna...@gmail.com wrote: I believe you are being over-pessimistic. In my company we are using GWT since 2006 and we have build pretty large and complicated web-apps using GWT. Some webapps created in 2006 (using GWT 1.2) are still being used today

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-14 Thread bryanb
I agree 100% with your assessment of alternative technologies, and agree that GWT is really the only solution for developing complex web applications. The only alternative is a 100% Javascript solution (for example using Closure tools). With Dart, Google have acknowledged that Javascript isn't

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-13 Thread Nagin Kothari
++1 On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Jmscavaleiro jmscavale...@gmail.comwrote: +1 On Apr 2, 4:19 pm, Joshua Kappon shuky.kap...@gmail.com wrote: With the rise of the new developers.google.com, and with Google trying to rally up developers using Google technologies and products, and the

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-13 Thread Blake McBride
I strongly disagree with this. First of all browser technology and HTML are in constant flux. If GWT is not updated, it will very soon become out-of-date (bugs in new browsers) and unusable (reliably usable over a broad base of browsers and platforms). Secondly, building apps with GWT is a full

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-13 Thread sampath sai
+1. Lets do small rally!!. I know it sounds weird.but at least group of 20 people in front of Google head office. let me know. we can create poll who ever is interested can join. Google will at least get some attention... On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Nagin Kothari

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-12 Thread dominikz
For over a year I was trying to convince my customers (that I develop programs for) to use GWT with their SAP system. The technologies available over there are WebDynpro for ABAP or Business Server Pages, which do not even know what AJAX is. In January I managed to do that. We just finished

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-12 Thread Frank
GWT will also not go away... If you have downloaded GWT on your computer you just can keep using it even years after Google has dropped GWT... Just like you still can program in QuickBasic or something. GWT doesn't need anything from Google on the web to operate. I will just keep using GWT if

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-12 Thread massimo malvestio
In my opinion Dart is overstimated by Google, I can't see why competitors like Microsoft and Mozilla should give a hand to Dart.. Just because Google says it can be better than javascript? Chrome can be one of the best browser on the market, and it can be the most used, but it will never be the

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-12 Thread Jmscavaleiro
+1 On Apr 2, 4:19 pm, Joshua Kappon shuky.kap...@gmail.com wrote: With the rise of the new developers.google.com, and with Google trying to rally up developers using Google technologies and products, and the rise of Dart and unclear future of GWT, I think it's about time that Google will

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-11 Thread Joshua Kappon
I understand (and do that), but I think GWT should get more attention from Google, and that it is not enough. GWT is amazing, absolutely amazing. Google has developer advocates that are helping with the G+ platform, android, Chrome web store, chromium OS and more, they publish new content, hear

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-11 Thread Trey Roby
There is a significant difference between having to watch the GWT Contributor Google group and an official post to the GWT blog. Not posting to the official blog is surely a sign of internal GWT problems. A healthy project is going to have official updates. We are very tied to GWT and think it

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-11 Thread Subhrajyoti Moitra
+1 On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Trey Roby rob...@gmail.com wrote: There is a significant difference between having to watch the GWT Contributor Google group and an official post to the GWT blog. Not posting to the official blog is surely a sign of internal GWT problems. A healthy

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-11 Thread Anders
+1 kl. 17:19:16 UTC+2 mandag 2. april 2012 skrev Joshua Kappon følgende: With the rise of the new developers.google.com, and with Google trying to rally up developers using Google technologies and products, and the rise of Dart and unclear future of GWT, I think it's about time that Google

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-10 Thread java4africa
+1 I stuck my neck out for GWT - I think it's a great concept. But without any news, plans, or long term commitment, I think it's pretty risky to throw man-months of development behind it. There are other options for web development where I have more control over what will be available in 3+

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-10 Thread Patrick Tucker
If you watch the GWT Contributor Google group, you can see what is being reviewed/worked on, what is getting committed to trunk and what not... On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 1:04:15 PM UTC-4, Trey Roby wrote: It has been about 4 months since Ray's post on what the GWT team is working on. In

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-09 Thread Renato Beserra
No attention on this yet? I can't +1 it without G+, right? 2012/4/5 Joshua Kappon shuky.kap...@gmail.com here is my original Google+ post: https://plus.google.com/u/0/117852058882395554716/posts/iQnNfC2BkxA I'm aiming to get some response from Google - You can really help out by re-sharing

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-05 Thread Gilad Egozi
+1 ! On Monday, April 2, 2012 6:19:16 PM UTC+3, Joshua Kappon wrote: With the rise of the new developers.google.com, and with Google trying to rally up developers using Google technologies and products, and the rise of Dart and unclear future of GWT, I think it's about time that Google will

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-05 Thread Joshua Kappon
here is my original Google+ post: https://plus.google.com/u/0/117852058882395554716/posts/iQnNfC2BkxA I'm aiming to get some response from Google - You can really help out by re-sharing and +1'ing it, and contributing your comments there also. Hopefully if we'll unite and be loud at some

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-04 Thread Trey Roby
It has been about 4 months since Ray's post on what the GWT team is working on. In that time there has been only one GWT official blog update and no releases for 6 months. After reading the link that Alan suggested, I am encouraged but on slightly since the post is several months old. There needs

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-03 Thread Joseph Lust
Alan, Thanks as always for your courteous replies. I'm grateful for the efforts the Google developers put into GWT, as any other enterprise building such a framework would most certainly charge the Earth for it while also crippling its functionality in exchange for customer lock-in. Google

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-03 Thread Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil
While I think that the GWT community is one of the best ones out there and I have no doubt about our ability to pick this up should it ever be dropped by Google, I have to agree with Joseph. I've already been told a few times that the future of GWT is uncertain. Again, while I know and I am

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-03 Thread Dipti Sharma
+1 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Alfredo Quiroga-Villamil laww...@gmail.com wrote: While I think that the GWT community is one of the best ones out there and I have no doubt about our ability to pick this up should it ever be dropped by Google, I have to agree with Joseph. I've already

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-03 Thread Alan Chaney
Hi Joseph On 04/03/2012 08:34 AM, Joseph Lust wrote: Alan, Thanks as always for your courteous replies. I'm grateful for the efforts the Google developers put into GWT, as any other enterprise building such a framework would most certainly charge the Earth for it while also crippling its

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-03 Thread coderinabstract
+ 1... Working on web apps since web came to existence asp, jsp, cgi, DHTML, javascript, struts and it was a real mess and did not truly enjoy it. Also,apps created were error prone with code bloat and good design was messy and a challenge. The power of true OO, with Java, generics and

Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-02 Thread Joshua Kappon
With the rise of the new developers.google.com, and with Google trying to rally up developers using Google technologies and products, and the rise of Dart and unclear future of GWT, I think it's about time that Google will rethink the all We don't and won't have a road map, and there are no

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-02 Thread Alan Chaney
On 04/02/2012 08:19 AM, Joshua Kappon wrote: With the rise of the new developers.google.com, and with Google trying to rally up developers using Google technologies and products, and the rise of Dart and unclear future of GWT, I think it's about time that Google will rethink the all We don't

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-02 Thread Joshua Kappon
Dear Alen. In my opinion, if Google would stop working on it, then GWT's future is unclear. It might be adopted by the contributors and it also might be droped after sometime. The problem is you never know. I personally think it won't be droped any time soon, since Google is heavly vested in

Re: Call for action: Time to rethink a road-map and more frequent updates for GWT.

2012-04-02 Thread Joshua Kappon
On Monday, April 2, 2012 6:30:14 PM UTC+3, Alan Chaney wrote: On 04/02/2012 08:19 AM, Joshua Kappon wrote: With the rise of the new developers.google.com, and with Google trying to rally up developers using Google technologies and products, and the rise of Dart and unclear future of GWT,