Re: [gpfsug-discuss] GPFS(snapshot, backup) vs. GPFS(backup scripts) vs. TSM(backup)

2016-03-19 Thread Jaime Pinto
OK, that is good to know. I'll give it a try with snapshot then. We already have 3.5 almost everywhere, and planing for 4.2 upgrade (reading the posts with interest) Thanks Jaime Quoting Yuri L Volobuev : Under both 3.2 and 3.3 mmbackup would always lock up our

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] cross-cluster mounting different versions of gpfs

2016-03-19 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
On 16/03/16 18:07, Damir Krstic wrote: Sven, For us, at least, at this point in time, we have to create new filesystem with version flag. The reason is we can't take downtime to upgrade all of our 500+ compute nodes that will cross-cluster mount this new storage. We can take downtime in June

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Use of commodity HDs on large GPFS client base clusters?

2016-03-19 Thread Marc A Kaplan
IBM ESS, GSS, GNR, and Perseus refer to the same "declustered" IBM raid-in-software technology with advanced striping and error recovery. I just googled some of those terms and hit this not written by IBM summary: http://www.raidinc.com/file-storage/gss-ess Also, this is now a "mature"

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] 4.2 installer

2016-03-19 Thread Matt Weil
Fri Mar 18 11:50:43 CDT 2016: mmcesop: /vol/system/ found but is not on a GPFS filesystem On 3/18/16 11:39 AM, Matt Weil wrote: > upgrading to 4.2.2 fixed the dependency issue. I now get Unable to > access CES shared root. > > # /usr/lpp/mmfs/bin/mmlsconfig | grep 'cesSharedRoot' > cesSharedRoot

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] cross-cluster mounting different versions of gpfs

2016-03-19 Thread Damir Krstic
Thanks for all replies. Do all of the same restrictions apply to 4.1? We have an option of installing ESS with 4.1. If we install ESS with 4.1 can we then cross mount to 3.5 with FS version of 4.1? Also with 4.1 are there any issues with key exchange? Thanks, Damir On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:29

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] cross-cluster mounting different versionsofgpfs

2016-03-19 Thread Yuri L Volobuev
There are two related, but distinctly different issues to consider. 1) File system format and backward compatibility. The format of a given file system is recorded on disk, and determines the level of code required to mount such a file system. GPFS offers backward compatibility for older file

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] 4.2 installer

2016-03-19 Thread Oesterlin, Robert
Hi Matt I’ve done a fair amount of work (testing) with the installer. It’s great if you want to install a new cluster, not so much if you have one setup. You’ll need to manually define everything. Be careful tho – do some test runs to verify what it will really do. I’ve found the installer

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] cross-cluster mounting different versions of gpfs

2016-03-19 Thread Damir Krstic
Sven, For us, at least, at this point in time, we have to create new filesystem with version flag. The reason is we can't take downtime to upgrade all of our 500+ compute nodes that will cross-cluster mount this new storage. We can take downtime in June and get all of the nodes up to 4.2 gpfs

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] 4.2 installer

2016-03-19 Thread Oesterlin, Robert
My first suggestion is: Don’t deploy the CES nodes manually – way to many package dependencies. Get those setup right and the installer does a good job. If you go through and define your cluster nodes to the installer, you can do a GPFS upgrade that way. I’ve run into some issues, especially

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] 4.2 installer

2016-03-19 Thread Simon Thompson (Research Computing - IT Services)
Does the installer manage to make the rpm kernel layer ok on clone oses? Last time I tried mmmakegpl, it falls over as I don't run RedHat enterprise... (I must admit I haven't used the installer, but be have config management recipes to install and upgrade). Simon

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] cross-cluster mounting different versions of gpfs

2016-03-19 Thread Steve Duersch
Please see question 2.10 in our faq. http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/api/content/nl/en-us/STXKQY/gpfsclustersfaq.pdf We only support clusters that are running release n and release n-1 and release n+1. So 4.1 is supported to work with 3.5 and 4.2. Release 4.2 is supported to work

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] 4.2 installer

2016-03-19 Thread Matt Weil
We have multiple clusters with thousands of nsd's surely there is an upgrade path. Are you all saying just continue to manually update nsd servers and manage them as we did previously. Is the installer not needed if there are current setups. Just deploy CES manually? On 3/16/16 12:20 PM, Simon

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] 4.2 installer

2016-03-19 Thread Matt Weil
upgrading to 4.2.2 fixed the dependency issue. I now get Unable to access CES shared root. # /usr/lpp/mmfs/bin/mmlsconfig | grep 'cesSharedRoot' cesSharedRoot /vol/system On 3/16/16 2:51 PM, Simon Thompson (Research Computing - IT Services) wrote: > Have you got a half updated system maybe? > >

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] cross-cluster mounting different versions of gpfs

2016-03-19 Thread Damir Krstic
Jonathan, Gradual upgrade is indeed a nice feature of GPFS. We are planning to gradually upgrade our clients to 4.2. However, before all, or even most clients are upgraded, we have to be able to mount this new 4.2 filesystem on all our compute nodes that are running version 3.5. Here is our

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] cross-cluster mounting different versions ofgpfs

2016-03-19 Thread Uwe Falke
Hi, Damir, you cannot mount a 4.x fs level from a 3.5 level cluster / node. You need to create the fs with a sufficiently low level, fs level downgrade is not possible, AFAIK. 3.5 nodes can mount fs from 4.1 cluster (fs at 3.5.0.7 fs level), that I can confirm for sure. Uwe Mit