Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs

2019-10-16 Thread Skylar Thompson
On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 09:32:50PM +, Jonathan Buzzard wrote: > On 15/10/2019 16:41, Simon Thompson wrote: > > I thought Spectrum Protect didn't actually backup again on a file > > owner change. Sure mmbackup considers it, but I think Protect just > > updates the metadata. There are also some

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs

2019-10-16 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
On 15/10/2019 16:41, Simon Thompson wrote: > I thought Spectrum Protect didn't actually backup again on a file > owner change. Sure mmbackup considers it, but I think Protect just > updates the metadata. There are also some other options for dsmc that > can stop other similar issues if you change

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs

2019-10-16 Thread Frederick Stock
Paul in regards to your question I would think you want to use NFSv4 ACLs and set the chmodAndUpdateAcl option on the fileset (see mmcrfileset/mmchfileset). Fred__Fred Stock | IBM Pittsburgh Lab | 720-430-8821sto...@us.ibm.com     - Original

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs

2019-10-16 Thread Paul Ward
-Original Message- From: gpfsug-discuss-boun...@spectrumscale.org On Behalf Of Jonathan Buzzard Sent: 16 October 2019 10:36 To: gpfsug main discussion list Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs On Wed, 2019-10-16 at 08:21 +, Malahal R Naineni wrote: >> G

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs

2019-10-16 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
On Wed, 2019-10-16 at 08:21 +, Malahal R Naineni wrote: > >> Ganesha shows functions for converting between GPFS ACL's and the > ACL format as used by Ganesha. > > Ganesha only supports NFSv4 ACLs, so the conversion is a quick one. > kernel NFS server converts NFSv4 ACLs to POSIX ACLs (the

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs

2019-10-16 Thread Malahal R Naineni
>> Ganesha shows functions for converting between GPFS ACL's and the ACL format as used by Ganesha.   Ganesha only supports NFSv4 ACLs, so the conversion is a quick one. kernel NFS server converts NFSv4 ACLs to POSIX ACLs (the mapping isn't perfect) as many of the Linux file systems only support 

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs

2019-10-15 Thread Yaron Daniel
From: Jonathan Buzzard To: "gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org" Date: 15/10/2019 23:34 Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs Sent by:gpfsug-discuss-boun...@spectrumscale.org On 15/10/2019 17:15, Paul Ward wrote: [SNIP] >>

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs

2019-10-15 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
On 15/10/2019 17:15, Paul Ward wrote: [SNIP] >> ...I am not sure why you need POSIX ACL's if you are running Linux... > From what I have recently read... > https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/STXKQY_4.2.0/com.ibm.spectrum.scale.v4r2.adm.doc/bl1adm_admnfsaclg.htm > "Linux does not

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs

2019-10-15 Thread Simon Thompson
@spectrumscale.org Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs Thanks Paul. Could you please clarify which ACL you changed, the GPFS NFSv4 ACL or the POSIX ACL? Fred __ Fred Stock | IBM Pittsburgh Lab | 720-430-8821 sto

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs

2019-10-15 Thread Simon Thompson
, October 15, 2019 5:15:50 PM To: gpfsug main discussion list Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs An amalgamated answer... > You do realize that will mean backing everything up again... >From the tests that I have done, it appears not. A Spectrum protect incre

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs

2019-10-15 Thread Paul Ward
50 To: gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org Cc: gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs Thanks Paul. Could you please clarify which ACL you changed, the GPFS NFSv4 ACL or the POSIX ACL? Fred __

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs

2019-10-15 Thread Frederick Stock
@spectrumscale.orgSubject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs   As I understand if you change only the POSIX attributes on a file then you are correct that TSM will only backup the file metadata, actually just the POSIX relevant metadata.  However, if you change ACLs or other GPFS specific

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs

2019-10-15 Thread Paul Ward
...@spectrumscale.org On Behalf Of Frederick Stock Sent: 15 October 2019 17:09 To: gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org Cc: gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs As I understand if you change only the POSIX attributes on a file then you are correct

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs

2019-10-15 Thread Frederick Stock
As I understand if you change only the POSIX attributes on a file then you are correct that TSM will only backup the file metadata, actually just the POSIX relevant metadata.  However, if you change ACLs or other GPFS specific metadata then TSM will backup the entire file, TSM does not keep all

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs

2019-10-15 Thread Simon Thompson
I thought Spectrum Protect didn't actually backup again on a file owner change. Sure mmbackup considers it, but I think Protect just updates the metadata. There are also some other options for dsmc that can stop other similar issues if you change ctime maybe. (Other backup tools are available)

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs

2019-10-15 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
On Tue, 2019-10-15 at 12:34 +, Paul Ward wrote: > We are in the process of changing the way GPFS assigns UID/GIDs from > internal tdb to using AD RIDs with an offset that matches our linux > systems. We, therefore, need to change the ACLs for all the files in > GPFS (up to 80 million). You do

[gpfsug-discuss] default owner and group for POSIX ACLs

2019-10-15 Thread Paul Ward
We are in the process of changing the way GPFS assigns UID/GIDs from internal tdb to using AD RIDs with an offset that matches our linux systems. We, therefore, need to change the ACLs for all the files in GPFS (up to 80 million). We are running in mixed ACL mode, with some POSIX and some NFSv4