Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Mounting filesystem on top of an existing filesystem

2020-11-19 Thread Simon Thompson
My understanding was that this was perfectly acceptable in a GPFS system. i.e. mounting parts of file-systems in others. It has been suggested to us as a way of using different vendor GPFS systems (e.g. an ESS with someone elses) as a way of working round the licensing rules about ESS and

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Mounting filesystem on top of an existing filesystem

2020-11-19 Thread Uwe Falke
Just the risk your parent system dies which will block your access to the child file system mounted on a mount point within. If that is not bothering , go ahead mount stacks . As for the symling though : it is also gone if the parent dies :-). Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards Dr. Uwe

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Mounting filesystem on top of an existing filesystem

2020-11-19 Thread Ryan Novosielski
> On Nov 19, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Jonathan Buzzard > wrote: > > On 19/11/2020 15:34, Caubet Serrabou Marc (PSI) wrote: >> Hi, >> I have a filesystem holding many projects (i.e., mounted under /projects), >> each project is managed with filesets. >> I have a new big project which should be placed

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Mounting filesystem on top of an existing filesystem

2020-11-19 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
On 19/11/2020 18:13, Caubet Serrabou Marc (PSI) wrote: Hi all, thanks a lot for your comments. Agreed, I better avoid it for now. I was concerned about how GPFS would behave in such case. For production I will take the safe route, but, just out of curiosity, I'll give it a try on a couple

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Mounting filesystem on top of an existing filesystem

2020-11-19 Thread Caubet Serrabou Marc (PSI)
Hi all, thanks a lot for your comments. Agreed, I better avoid it for now. I was concerned about how GPFS would behave in such case. For production I will take the safe route, but, just out of curiosity, I'll give it a try on a couple of test filesystems. Thanks a lot for your help, it was

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Mounting filesystem on top of an existing filesystem

2020-11-19 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
On 19/11/2020 16:40, KG wrote: You can also set mount priority on filesystems so that gpfs can try to mount them in order...parent first One of the things that systemd brings to the table https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/3519d230c8bafe834b2dac26ace49fcfba139823 JAB. -- Jonathan

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Mounting filesystem on top of an existing filesystem

2020-11-19 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
On 19/11/2020 17:34, Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote: I would not mount a GPFS filesystem within a GPFS filesystem. Technically it should work, but I’d expect it to cause surprises if ever the lower filesystem experienced problems. Alone, a filesystem might recover automatically by remounting. But

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Mounting filesystem on top of an existing filesystem

2020-11-19 Thread Skylar Thompson
Agreed, not sure how the GPFS tools would react. An alternative to symlinks would be bind mounts, if for some reason a tool doesn't behave properly with a symlink in the path. On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 06:34:05PM +0100, Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote: > I would not mount a GPFS filesystem within a GPFS

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Mounting filesystem on top of an existing filesystem

2020-11-19 Thread Jan-Frode Myklebust
I would not mount a GPFS filesystem within a GPFS filesystem. Technically it should work, but I’d expect it to cause surprises if ever the lower filesystem experienced problems. Alone, a filesystem might recover automatically by remounting. But if there’s another filesystem mounted within, I

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Mounting filesystem on top of an existing filesystem

2020-11-19 Thread Caubet Serrabou Marc (PSI)
Hi Simon, that's a very good point, thanks a lot :) I have it remotely mounted on a client cluster, so I will consider priorities when mounting the filesystems with remote cluster mount. That's very useful. Also, as far as I saw, same approach can be also applied to local mounts (via mmchfs)

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Mounting filesystem on top of an existing filesystem

2020-11-19 Thread Caubet Serrabou Marc (PSI)
Hi Jonathan, thanks for sharing your opinions. In the sentence "Technically, mounting a filesystem on top of an existing filesystem should be possible" , I guess I was referring to that... I was concerned about other technical reasons, such like how would this would affect GPFS policies, or

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Mounting filesystem on top of an existing filesystem

2020-11-19 Thread Simon Thompson
If it is a remote cluster mount from your clients (hopefully!), you might want to look at priority to order mounting of the file-systems. I don’t know what would happen if the overmounted file-system went away, you would likely want to test. Simon From: on behalf of "marc.cau...@psi.ch"

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Mounting filesystem on top of an existing filesystem

2020-11-19 Thread KG
You can also set mount priority on filesystems so that gpfs can try to mount them in order...parent first On Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 21:19 Jonathan Buzzard wrote: > On 19/11/2020 15:34, Caubet Serrabou Marc (PSI) wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a filesystem holding many projects (i.e., mounted

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Mounting filesystem on top of an existing filesystem

2020-11-19 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
On 19/11/2020 15:34, Caubet Serrabou Marc (PSI) wrote: Hi, I have a filesystem holding many projects (i.e., mounted under /projects), each project is managed with filesets. I have a new big project which should be placed on a separate filesystem (blocksize, replication policy, etc. will be

[gpfsug-discuss] Mounting filesystem on top of an existing filesystem

2020-11-19 Thread Caubet Serrabou Marc (PSI)
Hi, I have a filesystem holding many projects (i.e., mounted under /projects), each project is managed with filesets. I have a new big project which should be placed on a separate filesystem (blocksize, replication policy, etc. will be different, and subprojects of it will be managed with