Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction

2020-04-17 Thread T.A. Yeep
Hi JAB, Sound interesting, however, I'm actually a newcomer to Scale, I wish I could share the joy of mixing that. I guess maybe it is something similar to LSF RVU/UVUs? Thanks for sharing your experience anyway. Hi Carl, I just want to let you know that I have got your explanation, and I

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction

2020-04-17 Thread Steve Hindmarsh
of Carl Zetie - ca...@us.ibm.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:16:38 PM To: gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction Rob Horton wrote: >I'm not sure what the issue is between DDN and IBM (although I've heard >various

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction

2020-04-17 Thread Carl Zetie - ca...@us.ibm.com
Dean Flanders: > Thanks for the clarification. I have always heard the term "existing > customers" so originally I thought we were fine, > but this is the first time I have seen the term "existing systems". However, > it seems what I said before is mostly correct, > eventually all customers will

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction

2020-04-17 Thread Carl Zetie - ca...@us.ibm.com
Rob Horton wrote: >I'm not sure what the issue is between DDN and IBM (although I've heard >various rumors) >but I really wish they would sort something out. Yes, it’s a pain. IBM and DDN are trying very hard to work something out, but it’s hard to get all the ‘I’s dotted and ‘T’s crossed with

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction

2020-04-17 Thread Carl Zetie - ca...@us.ibm.com
>Now the question, ESS is license per Drive or by capacity? I apologize for the confusion. Within IBM Storage when we say “capacity” licensing we use that as an umbrella term for both Per TB/PB *or* Per Drive (HDD or SSD). This is contrasted with “processor” metrics including Socket and the

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction

2020-04-17 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
On 17/04/2020 11:31, T.A. Yeep wrote: Hi Carl, I'm confused here, in the previous email it was said *And for ESS, it is licensed Per Drive with different prices for HDDs and SSDs.* But then you mentioned in below email that: But new customers and new OEM systems are *all licensed by

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction

2020-04-17 Thread Robert Horton
We're in the same boat. I'm not sure what the issue is between DDN and IBM (although I've heard various rumors) but I really wish they would sort something out. Rob On Fri, 2020-04-17 at 07:35 +, Steve Hindmarsh wrote: > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the ICR. Do not click >

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction

2020-04-17 Thread Ryan Novosielski
ftware on their DDN system) -michael Michael Sedlmayer -Original Message- From: gpfsug-discuss-boun...@spectrumscale.org On Behalf Of Flanders, Dean Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 5:40 PM To: gpfsug main discussion list Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important corr

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction

2020-04-17 Thread Steve Hindmarsh
system) -michael Michael Sedlmayer -Original Message- From: gpfsug-discuss-boun...@spectrumscale.org On Behalf Of Flanders, Dean Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 5:40 PM To: gpfsug main discussion list Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction Hello

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction

2020-04-16 Thread Michael Sedlmayer
-Original Message- From: gpfsug-discuss-boun...@spectrumscale.org On Behalf Of Flanders, Dean Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 5:40 PM To: gpfsug main discussion list Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction Hello Carl, Thanks for the clarification. I have

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction

2020-04-16 Thread Flanders, Dean
M To: gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction > From my understanding existing customers from DDN, Lenovo, etc. that >have v4 with socket based licenses are not entitled v5 licenses socket >licenses. Is that a correct understanding

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction

2020-04-16 Thread Carl Zetie - ca...@us.ibm.com
> From my understanding existing customers from DDN, Lenovo, etc. that have v4 > with socket based licenses >are not entitled v5 licenses socket licenses. Is that a correct understanding? It is not, and I apologize in advance for the length of this explanation. I want to be precise and as

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction

2020-04-16 Thread Flanders, Dean
, 2020 2:44 PM To: gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction Folks, I need to correct a common misunderstanding that is perpetuated here: > As IBM has completely switched to capacity based licensing in order to > use SS v5 F

Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale licensing - important correction

2020-04-16 Thread Carl Zetie - ca...@us.ibm.com
Folks, I need to correct a common misunderstanding that is perpetuated here: > As IBM has completely switched to capacity based licensing in order to use SS > v5 For new customers, Scale is priced Per TB (we also have Per PB licenses now for convenience). This transition was completed in