Re: [GRASS-dev] GRASS Windows issues

[Jeff McKenna via grass-dev]

Hi Pieter,

I personally always recommend using WinGRASS, it is very reliable. 
(thanks to MartinL)  https://wingrass.fsv.cvut.cz/grass84/


Merry Christmas to you and the GRASS GIS family,

-jeff



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On 2023-12-09 12:17 a.m., Gandalf the Gray via grass-dev wrote:

Hi guys.

In desperation I am posting to this list.  I have posted on the OSGeo4W 
list a week ago to no avail.


I hope someone can help me.

On a clean install of OSGeo4W (and for that matter standalone QGIS and 
GRASS installers), I get the following error (see attached screenshot) 
starting any version of GRASS.


On GRASS 7, I can do a mapset selection before crash, but the other 2 
just crashes.


Install is on a machine that ran GRASS up until a week ago, until I 
uninstalled the OSGeo4W stack, and deleted everything.  There is nothing 
strange about my Windows Setup


I hope anyone can help me, and I hope you can see the screenshot.

Regards

Pieter

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Re: [GRASS-dev] GitHub backport label proposal

[Jeff McKenna]

Hi Markus,

For the MapServer project, I enabled the following names, which seems to 
make sense, as it references the actual branch name (as in 'branch-8-0') 
in the label name, such as:


  backport branch-6-4
  backport branch-7-4
  backport branch-7-6
  backport branch-8-0

This seems to work very well (no questions from the various devs).



-jeff



On 2022-11-22 7:00 a.m., Markus Neteler wrote:

Hi devs,

Our generic "backport" label seems to be mildly confusing (backport to
which branch?).

My suggestion is to adopt the approach of GDAL:

- backport release 7.8
- backport release 8.2
...

Like this also multiple labels could be set.

Opinions?

cheers,
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Re: [GRASS-dev] [GRASS-PSC] difficult to get GRASS source code package

[Jeff McKenna]

On 2022-02-14 4:01 p.m., Veronica Andreo wrote:


El lun, 14 feb 2022 a las 20:29, Vaclav Petras (<mailto:wenzesl...@gmail.com>>) escribió:



On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 at 14:22, Veronica Andreo mailto:veroand...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Currently, there's a link to releases  in the first entry of
https://grass.osgeo.org/download/
<https://grass.osgeo.org/download/> that points to
https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/releases
<https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/releases>. I agree that esp for
8.0.0 the link to the tarball means a lot of browsing down.


Or instead of the releases page to that tags page I linked above.
The links (both .tar.gz and .zip) are more readily available there.
The target audience is technical anyway, so perhaps this is a
preferred view at this point in the workflow.

https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/tags
<https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/tags>


Here's the PR: https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website/pull/284 
<https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website/pull/284>





+1 to that change.

By the way, one of my last interactions with Martin Isenburg (may his 
soul rest in peace) he gave me a strong lecture when I tried to send him 
a tarball "jeff it is 2021 please send me something useful like a ZIP". 
 He is totally right of course, and we should all remember to post 
links to zip as well as .tar.gz etc on our main download pages.


-jeff





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Re: [GRASS-dev] Invitation: End of year toast :)

[Jeff McKenna]

I missed it also, spending time with my mother, but I want to send best 
wishes to the whole GRASS community, I hope everyone has a nice New Year 
holiday.  Please raise a glass for me.


-jeff



On 2021-12-29 10:19 a.m., Moritz Lennert wrote:

Hi everyone,

Won't be able to join you tonight. I wish everyone a happy new year 2022 
with many great releases of GRASS GIS !


Moritz

Le 27 décembre 2021 13:46:10 GMT+01:00, Veronica Andreo 
 a écrit :


Dear all,

We'd like to invite you all to a virtual end of year toast on
*Wednesday, December 29th at 20:00 UTC* (See some local times:

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2021=12=29=20=0=0=485=48=207=197

<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2021=12=29=20=0=0=485=48=207=197>)

We'll share the link on this thread a couple of hours before the
event. Mark your calendars!

Looking forward to seeing you!
Vero


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Re: [GRASS-dev] News from Markus Neteler

[Jeff McKenna]

Sending strength to Markus and his family.

-jeff



On 2021-08-29 2:53 p.m., Veronica Andreo wrote:

Dear all,

I'm writing on behalf of Markus. He wants all of you to know the reason 
for his absence.


Some of you know already, but Markus had a stroke around a month ago and 
went through brain surgery around 10 days ago to drain the hematoma 
because he started having issues speaking and he dropped things from his 
hands. This is the reason he has been offline all this time.


After the surgery, he was completely offline until today when he started 
typing a few  text messages with quite some difficulty. He is in an 
intermediate care unit with monitors and sensors. He said he has a good 
appetite and with help he has started walking a little bit around the 
alleys in the hospital. So, he is recovering, but the process is slow 
and it will take time. He still does not remember certain things.


Let's send the best vibes and thoughts for a good recovery and let's all 
keep pushing GRASS forward ;-)


Best wishes and take care all, please.
Vero




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Re: [GRASS-dev] Renaming master branch to main branch

[Jeff McKenna]

Here are some screen captures for these same steps, that I created back 
in January for the MapServer community: 
https://github.com/MapServer/MapServer/wiki/Renamed-Default-Branch


-jeff




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On 2021-08-18 11:41 p.m., Vaclav Petras wrote:

Dear all,

I will rename our default branch currently called master to main in the 
following days. We already discussed it here and there, but the rename 
should be relatively smooth. Much simpler than the addons repo 
reorganization. Users not compiling code themselves should not be 
affected. Contributors will be, but GitHub warns you about the rename 
when you come to the repo web page. Those compiling from source may need 
to make changes.


The update of a local clone can be done with instructions similar to the 
following (I will post them again once I confirm it is the best fit):


git branch -m master main
git fetch upstream
git branch -u upstream/main main
git remote set-head upstream -a

Additionally, to get rid of upstream/master, do:

git fetch --prune

You don't need to update your fork unless you want to.

The changes needed in the repo are already in a PR (feel free to review):

https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pull/1806 
<https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pull/1806>


Those compiling from source code obtained from Git will need to make 
changes when they explicitly specify the branch. A simple `git clone` 
takes the default branch which will continue to work. However, if you do 
--branch, checkout, or switch, and at the same time using the master 
branch, you will need to change "master" to "main".


Let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Best,
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Re: [GRASS-dev] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] [FOSS4G] OSGeo Projects swag

[Jeff McKenna]

Māris may I be the first paid customer to purchase this "taking care of 
lawns since 1982" shirt.  :)


-jeff



On 2021-07-07 4:02 a.m., Maris Nartiss wrote:

2021-07-06 11:50 GMT+03:00, Luca Delucchi :

Hi devs,

Does anyone have any ideas?



Tired of your lawn looking like a mess? Check out best gardening tips
at https://grass.osgeo.org

GRASS – taking care of lawns since 1982.


Designing an advertisement around logo I leave to more skill full artists.
Māris.
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Re: [GRASS-dev] GRASS on IRC

[Jeff McKenna]

I had earlier registered the #grass channel on libera.chat, and gave 
MarkusN 'founder' status.  It's a good backup option.  Also, as of 
yesterday there is a new webchat option for libera.chat (connect 
directly through your browser: https://web.libera.chat/ )


-jeff



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On 2021-05-28 9:17 a.m., Veronica Andreo wrote:

Ciao Lu,

I was about to ask the same.

I do not use IRC so I cannot really tell what would be the best. QGIS is 
having the same discussion right now. matrix seems like a good option if 
we can use our osgeo credentials. In twitter, I have seen many open 
source projects are moving to https://libera.chat/ <https://libera.chat/>


my 2 cents
Vero



El vie, 28 may 2021 a las 13:20, Luca Delucchi (<mailto:lucadel...@gmail.com>>) escribió:


Hi all,

there are problem with Freenode [0] where we have #grass channel.

What do you think to move to matrix.osgeo.org
<http://matrix.osgeo.org>? It works with OSGeo account!


[0] https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/8514.html
<https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/8514.html>

-- 
ciao

Luca

www.lucadelu.org <http://www.lucadelu.org>
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Re: [GRASS-dev] GRASS GIS single layout (GSoC 2021)

[Jeff McKenna]

Hi Linda, my initial thoughts when I saw the mock-up layout: oh my, I 
love it!!  This is wonderful, very user-friendly.


Thanks for the positive Sunday message Linda.

-jeff




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On 2021-04-11 6:51 a.m., L.Kladivova wrote:

Hello guys,

I have created the proposal for GRASS Single Layout and I also prepared 
the first idea how the single layout could look like :-).


Proposal:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1giJhZwmMYo0r0fJh70hSr2ofQoGsvtR63ggh2URaWG0/edit?usp=sharing 
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1giJhZwmMYo0r0fJh70hSr2ofQoGsvtR63ggh2URaWG0/edit?usp=sharing>

Idea:
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/wxGUIDevelopment/SingleWindow 
<https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/wxGUIDevelopment/SingleWindow>


I will be very glad for any of your suggestions and comments! :-)

Linda

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Datum: 12. 3. 2021 21:45:32
Předmět: GRASS GIS single layout (GSoC 2021)


Hello GRASS devs and OSGeo mentors,

I hope you are all well. :-) I'm writing to the group due to Google
Summer of Code 2021. I would love to participate, this time as a
PhD. student of geodesy and cartography at CTU.

About two months ago, I successfully ended up my master studies,
which was aimed at improving the first-time user experience in
GRASS, and of which you were all a bit part because you participated
very often in surveys that helped me (us) to move the GRASS GUI
forward. :-)

The topic of GRASS single layout  which I would like to deal with
was heard several times in surveys, and in terms of importance, it
seems that this topic has the highest priority in terms of GRASS GUI.


However, it is a very extensive topic and will mainly mean a large
refactoring of the GUI code. I have already started with it within
the PRs https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pull/1321, and
https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/pull/1437. I also know that there is
probably another applicant, but I believe that we can work on it
together. And I even think that the cooperation can be a very
positive experience since the topic is really very broad. :-)

For Vero: Regarding the presentation for FOSS4G, I would like to
contribute. :-)


Have you all a nice evening.


Best,

Linda


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Re: [GRASS-dev] minor tweak to new website

[Jeff McKenna]

+1

-jeff



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On 2021-01-15 3:14 p.m., Helena Mitasova wrote:

I agree with Michael’s suggestion too, Helena


On Jan 15, 2021, at 2:10 PM, Paulo van Breugel  wrote:



On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 5:49 PM Michael Barton  wrote:
On the new download pages, I just noticed that the dev versions are referenced 
like this:

  


GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (unstable)

  


This implies that GRASS 7.9 is risky and perhaps minimally useable. The reality 
is that it works very well but has some new features that might be buggy or 
might change. While we want to indicate these differences from the current 
stable version, we don’t want to discourage people from trying it (and 
reporting any issues).

  


I suggest that we reference it as

  


GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (development)

  


Or

  


GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (preview)




+1 good point, it indeed works well, and is in my experience more stable than 
many other software tools I use(d).

  
  


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Re: [GRASS-dev] Milestone management: 7.8.5 or 7.10 or 8.0.0?

[Jeff McKenna]

On 2020-10-13 10:42 a.m., Jeff McKenna wrote:

On 2020-10-13 10:29 a.m., Anna Petrášová wrote:

Hi,

just to confirm what Martin and Vero were saying, the problem is we 
have breaking changes (TGIS) in master and new, fairly major features 
(data catalog, new startup mechanism) and probably some other things, 
so we can't simply branch off 7.10 without disabling those. So that's 
why during the recent call we had we leaned towards releasing 8. I 
agree beginning of 2021 should be realistic, although I am not sure 
what is the timeline of the PROJ changes.
We have the GRASS 8 ideas here, so it would be worth reviewing what 
could be realistically accomplished:

https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Grass8Planning


Anna



Regarding PROJ, some critical changes are coming for the PROJ 7.2.0 
release on 1st November (a lot has to do with network/SSL/CA bundle, 
which is important these days), and then another release 7.2.1 is set 
for 1st January, which could work nicely with your planned early 2021 
timeline for GRASS.  (PROJ always stays strict to those planned release 
dates)


-jeff




I should also mention that PROJ 7.2.0 will also importantly be the first 
release with the new EPSG database model (v10), which GRASS and so many 
other software depend on (EPSG geodetic database for projection lookup). 
 That could also be an important upcoming change for GRASS to leverage.


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Re: [GRASS-dev] Milestone management: 7.8.5 or 7.10 or 8.0.0?

[Jeff McKenna]

On 2020-10-13 10:29 a.m., Anna Petrášová wrote:

Hi,

just to confirm what Martin and Vero were saying, the problem is we have 
breaking changes (TGIS) in master and new, fairly major features (data 
catalog, new startup mechanism) and probably some other things, so we 
can't simply branch off 7.10 without disabling those. So that's why 
during the recent call we had we leaned towards releasing 8. I agree 
beginning of 2021 should be realistic, although I am not sure what is 
the timeline of the PROJ changes.
We have the GRASS 8 ideas here, so it would be worth reviewing what 
could be realistically accomplished:

https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Grass8Planning


Anna



Regarding PROJ, some critical changes are coming for the PROJ 7.2.0 
release on 1st November (a lot has to do with network/SSL/CA bundle, 
which is important these days), and then another release 7.2.1 is set 
for 1st January, which could work nicely with your planned early 2021 
timeline for GRASS.  (PROJ always stays strict to those planned release 
dates)


-jeff




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Re: [GRASS-dev] Website does not work with www for me

[Jeff McKenna]

On 2020-08-13 8:17 p.m., Markus Neteler wrote:

Hi,

Ondřej Pešek mailto:pesej.ond...@gmail.com>> 
schrieb am Do., 13. Aug. 2020, 23:50:


Howdie,

when I go to the GRASS website the lazy way without typing www
(grass.osgeo.org <http://grass.osgeo.org>), I can load the page
without a problem. However, when I want to try it with www
(www.grass.osgeo.org <http://www.grass.osgeo.org>), I get the "Page
not found" error message.

Is it just me? Is it normal?


It's expected as we don't have a DNS record for that

Is it internet mimicry? Is it something I should open an issue at
[1] for?

Thank you,
Ondřej

[1] https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website



Do we want that, too? I'd find it confusing, with and without www. But 
let's hear opinions!




Absolutely, a DNS record for www.grass.osgeo.org is still needed


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Re: [GRASS-dev] GRASS GIS Birthday Virtual Celebration

[Jeff McKenna]

I tried to archive some of the celebrations at 
https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Birthday


(edits welcomed ha!)

-jeff



On 2020-07-29 3:00 p.m., Vaclav Petras wrote:

See you in one hour. The link is:

https://ncsu.zoom.us/j/92325670198?pwd=QkNrWHpWSk5nNTJCRmlidXNCalJBdz09




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Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] GRASS GIS 7.8.3

[Jeff McKenna]

On 2020-05-10 10:34 a.m., Veronica Andreo wrote:

Hi

El dom., 10 may. 2020 08:17, Markus Neteler > escribió:


On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 11:32 AM Martin Landa mailto:landa.mar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 > pá 8. 5. 2020 v 11:18 odesílatel Markus Neteler
mailto:nete...@osgeo.org>> napsal:
 > > Time to announce it!

I prepared and published it here:
https://grass.osgeo.org/news/89/15/GRASS-GIS-7-8-3-released/

 > and what about announcement on the new website? :-)
and
https://staging.grass.osgeo.org/news/2020_05_05_grass_gis_7_8_3_released/

(TODO: still lacking a screenshot)


A user in Twitter agreed to lend us one, I'll edit it and include in 
both places




Looks good guys!  congrats on the news.

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Re: [GRASS-dev] SSL Certificate

[Jeff McKenna]

On 2018-07-28 6:41 AM, Markus Neteler wrote:

On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Jeff McKenna
 wrote:
...

I hope the new SSL certificate for all of the sites including
grasswiki.osgeo.org was helpful, and worth my mistake.

Again, I am very sorry.

-Jeff McKenna


Wiki, CMS are back online, I checked transifex as well (auto-fetch).

Seems we are back on stage!

Markus




phew!!!

-jeff

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Re: [GRASS-dev] SSL Certificate

[Jeff McKenna]

On 2018-07-28 2:22 AM, Markus Neteler wrote:

Hi Huidae, all,
(CC lists)

Huidae Cho mailto:gras...@gmail.com>> schrieb am 
Sa., 28. Juli 2018, 03:20:


Hi Markus,

Not sure if you noticed this. I'm getting an SSL certificate error
when accessing grass.osgeo.org <http://grass.osgeo.org>.


grass.osgeo.org <http://grass.osgeo.org> uses an invalid security
certificate.

The certificate is only valid for the following names:
mapserver.org <http://mapserver.org>, www.mapserver.org
<http://www.mapserver.org>

Error code: SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN

Is it just me?

Huidae
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Open Source GIS Developer, GRASS GIS Development Team


I also realized that yesterday and escalated it to OSGeo-SAC.

In fact, a SAC member had messed the certificate accidentally up and 
fixed it later.


Please report of you find any OSGeo site still causing troubles.

Best
Markus



Yes sorry this was me.

I hope the new SSL certificate for all of the sites including 
grasswiki.osgeo.org was helpful, and worth my mistake.


Again, I am very sorry.

-Jeff McKenna



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Re: [GRASS-dev] GRASS flyer for the new osgeo branding

[Jeff McKenna]

On 2017-07-28 9:08 AM, Luca Delucchi wrote



- in the next sentence, change "but still at the bleeding edge" to "but is
still at the bleeding edge"



done, maybe should be "but it is still at the bleeding edge" ?



yes your recommendation is better.  thanks!

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Re: [GRASS-dev] GRASS flyer for the new osgeo branding

[Jeff McKenna]

Hi Luca,

Some feedback from me:

- remove "a" from the first sentence:   GRASS GIS is free and open 
source software for performing spatial analysis.


- add an "s" to "consist" in the second sentence:  It consists of more 
than 450 modules


- in the third sentence, the term "map web services" confuses me, did 
you mean "web map services" instead??


- in the next sentence, change "but still at the bleeding edge" to "but 
is still at the bleeding edge"


- in the section "A long term endeavor":

   - change "wide contributors community. Both combine" to "wide 
contributors community; both combine"


- in the section "Interfaces":

   - change "the simpler for new user" to "the simplest for the new user"

   - change "text based" to "text-based"



-jeff




On 2017-07-27 1:05 PM, Anna Petrášová wrote:

Hi Luca,


great effort! Let me also comment on couple small things:

* The bottom 'GRASS GIS' seems unnecessary, I would keep only the
logo, which I would align to the left and the url to the right
* In interfaces, I would skip "called wxGUI", I am not sure whether we
need to mention it's in wxPython, new users probably won't know about
the old GUI?
* Now you have there twice that GRASS is old, maybe I would replace
the sentence "It is the oldest..." with something like "GRASS GIS can
serve you as a desktop GIS, the backbone of a geospatial
infrastructure or as an innovation platform for scientific modeling."

Thank you for working on this

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Luca Delucchi  wrote:

On 27 July 2017 at 09:21, Moritz Lennert  wrote:


Great !

Again a few remarks after a rapid glance:

- If we say in the opening paragraph that it is the "oldest" free GIS, then
we should probably add in the same sentence something like "but still at the
bleeding edge of innovation in GIS technology".

- I don't find that the paragraph on the top right really explains "Data
management capabilities" since most of what is in it concerns data analysis.
Maybe entitle it "Features" ?

- psmap is not the tool that "interactively compares two maps"

And just an idea: maybe replace the paragraph entitles "Graphical tools"
(the list of which I find a bit abstract for new users) by one called
"Multiple forms of use" [better title needed] explaining that you can use
GRASS via a GUI (maybe cite some of the GUI modules in parantheses there),
via command line (e.g. on headless servers) and via easy integration into
different programming languages.



done!


Moritz




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Luca

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Re: [GRASS-dev] Unable to update my project Wiki due to Captcha

[Jeff McKenna]

On 2017-06-12 11:46 AM, Paul Schrum wrote:
I attempted to add my Week 2 report to my project wiki page.  When I did 
this, it challenged me with a Captcha Challenge, specifically one with 
simple arithmetic in english words.  I type in the correct answer and it 
thinks my answer fails.


I did this seven or eight times and finally concluded that it has a bug.

I will seek to add the report to the wiki from a computer with a 
different IP address some time in the future, but for now, this is why 
it is not appearing there


- Paul



Next time you have a problem with the wiki, just let the OSGeo system 
admins know directly through IRC chat (go directly through your Web 
browser at https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=osgeo-sac)


Regarding this as a 'bug', I doubt that as so many thousands of others 
use the wiki daily; but please do let the admins know and they can 
'whitelist' you if need be.


Thank you,

-jeff



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