Re: [GRASS-dev] Make terminal window optional?

2020-09-12 Thread Paulo van Breugel
Hi Vaclav, Thanks for the detailed response. I would still have a preference for option 2, it being relative ease to implement, and providing both a startup with and without command line.  But all options have their merits for sure. Cheers, Paulo On 9-9-2020 05:32, Vaclav Petras wrote:

Re: [GRASS-dev] Make terminal window optional?

2020-09-11 Thread Stefan Blumentrath
Of Luca Delucchi Sent: torsdag 10. september 2020 23:25 To: Vaclav Petras Cc: grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] Make terminal window optional? On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 05:06, Vaclav Petras wrote: > > Dear all, > Hi Vaclav, > > 2. Remove the terminal from desktop launcher

Re: [GRASS-dev] Make terminal window optional?

2020-09-10 Thread Luca Delucchi
On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 05:06, Vaclav Petras wrote: > > Dear all, > Hi Vaclav, > > 2. Remove the terminal from desktop launchers so that GRASS GIS starts > without the terminal when started in the GUI way. When a user starts GRASS > GIS using a command from an existing terminal, there is no

Re: [GRASS-dev] Make terminal window optional?

2020-09-10 Thread Veronica Andreo
Hi Vashek, Thanks much for all the explanations :) I guess yes, option 2 is fine (not much will change for me indeed). I'll only reinforce the suggestion of the OSGeo4W installer for Windows users in the future. Vero El mié., 9 sept. 2020 a las 5:50, Vaclav Petras () escribió: > Hi Vero, > > I

Re: [GRASS-dev] Make terminal window optional?

2020-09-10 Thread Steven Pawley
Hi Vaclav, Thanks for taking the time to provide this detailed information. So, perhaps option 5 is starting to look too complicated, and you are right that I would probably always start grass from the terminal anyway. So, option 2 overall looks reasonable. As a separate PR, I think having a

Re: [GRASS-dev] Make terminal window optional?

2020-09-08 Thread Vaclav Petras
Hi Vero, I think the question is if a specific workflow is what we are aiming for or if anything that gets users to a terminal+GUI combo is good as long as there is not much work for the user. The issue is that some options are just much more difficult to implement then the others. Or, in other

Re: [GRASS-dev] Make terminal window optional?

2020-09-08 Thread Vaclav Petras
Hi Steven, You brought up several good points. I tried to cover all of them in my answer, but some may need more discussion. Hopefully, I was able to clarify some of my points. On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 10:56 AM Steven Pawley wrote: > > My 2c is that the terminal should be made as optional

Re: [GRASS-dev] Make terminal window optional?

2020-09-08 Thread Vaclav Petras
Hi Paulo, I explained better options 3-5 and responded to the rest. On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 6:03 AM Paulo van Breugel wrote: > > On 06-09-2020 05:05, Vaclav Petras wrote: > > When you start GRASS GIS now, it always also starts with a system terminal > window which has a shell which has modified

Re: [GRASS-dev] Make terminal window optional?

2020-09-07 Thread Veronica Andreo
Hi all, I am ok with not having the terminal when starting grass from an icon, but as Steven, I'd like to have a button to still be able to open the terminal from the GUI. For example, next to the icon for the simple Pyhton editor in the menu bar. In my case, I teach Grass from the terminal

Re: [GRASS-dev] Make terminal window optional?

2020-09-06 Thread Steven Pawley
Hi Vaclav, Thanks for this. My 2c is that the terminal should be made as optional because it can definitely be confusing and intimidating/off-putting for new users. Apologies if I’ve confused some of the options but here are my thoughts regarding the start-up options. Unfortunately (in terms

Re: [GRASS-dev] Make terminal window optional?

2020-09-06 Thread Paulo van Breugel
On 06-09-2020 05:05, Vaclav Petras wrote: Dear all, What do you think about making the terminal window optional? When you start GRASS GIS now, it always also starts with a system terminal window which has a shell which has modified prompt and history. What I'm proposing is to make this

[GRASS-dev] Make terminal window optional?

2020-09-05 Thread Vaclav Petras
Dear all, What do you think about making the terminal window optional? When you start GRASS GIS now, it always also starts with a system terminal window which has a shell which has modified prompt and history. What I'm proposing is to make this opt-in, i.e., a user will have to take an action in