[GRASS-user] v.rast.stats

2010-06-17 Thread Sandile Gumede
Hi

It is still giving me -NULL value error.

Do you think maybe its the way I downloaded my rainfall data? This is the
site where I downloaded my data sets* ftp://trmmopen.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/gis/
*and this data covers the whole world, the only thing I did was to clip a
specific region (using coordinates) that is in South Africa to do my
analysis. I used a bash script to download and project the data, see below:


#!/bin/bash

wget ftp://trmmopen.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/gis/3B42RT.2010032900.1day.tif
wget ftp://trmmopen.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/gis/3B42RT.2010032900.1day.tfw

gdal_translate -of GTiff -co PROFILE=GeoTIFF -co INTERLEAVE=PIXEL -co
COMPRESS=LZW -co TILED=YES -a_srs EPSG:4326 -a_ullr 18.2987501
-33.6795831 19.1712501 -34.3487498 3B42RT.2010032900.1day.tif
TRMMLast1day.tif



2010/6/15 Micha Silver mi...@arava.co.il

  On 15/06/2010 14:35, Sandile Gumede wrote:

 Hi
 If I run g.region rast=rainfall -p, I get:

 OK, what you've done here is change the current region to match the raster
 rainfall.
 Can you now try:
 v.rast.stats -c vect=catchments rast=rainfall pref=precip




 projection: 3 (Latitude-Longitude)
 zone:   0
 datum:  wgs84
 ellipsoid:  wgs84
 north:  33:40:46.49916S
 south:  34:20:55.49928S
 west:   18:17:55.50036E
 east:   19:10:16.50036E
 nsres:  0:00:05.01875
 ewres:  0:00:02.18125
 rows:   480
 cols:   1440
 cells:  691200

 and If I run r.univar rainfall, I get the following output:

  100%
 total null and non-null cells: 691200
 total null cells: 0

 Of the non-null cells:
 --
 n: 691200
 minimum: 0
 maximum: 3094
 range: 3094
 mean: 22.0228
 mean of absolute values: 22.0228
 standard deviation: 76.1639
 variance: 5800.94
 variation coefficient: 345.841 %
 sum: 15222164



 On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Hamish hamis...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Micha wrote:
  The only unusual thing I notice above is that the resolution settings
  for the raster are different N-S and E-W. This came from the original
  tiff (see below) which also has rectangular pixels,

  that is perfectly normal for a lat/lon map away from the equator.
 longitude scales a cos(lat).


  (the v.rast.stats module creates a temp raster at the *current region's
  resolution* settings, which might be different from this rainfall
  raster's rectangular resolution...)

  the results of:

 g.region -p rast=mapname
 r.univar mapname


 could help.


 Hamish






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Re: [GRASS-user] Using Tck/tk vector digitizer for training areas

2010-06-17 Thread Jenny Turner
Thanks Micha for your help but I got an error while doing this

1- Create new empty vectorial
2- run v.db.addtable command that you kindly sent me
3- use v.digit as defined previously
4- Inside tcltk's digitizing menu select Digitize new Centroid
5- Leave layer as 1
6- Change Mode to Manual Entry
7- First digitize boundary (by selecting boundary) by selecting points with
left-mouse-button and close polygon with right-mouse-button
8- A panel with FORM title appears with a tab saying Attributes saying:
New record was created saying CAT : 1 (this cat refers to the land cover
category right?); train_lbl value and GRASSRGB;
9- I place the values (water,1) for train_lbl and GRASSRGB
10- a box ask me for ASSUME DATA ENCODING AS a list appears. I should
select which one? ASCII?
11- In trhis case I select ASCII and press SUBMIT. In the bottom of that box
Record successfully updated appeared.
12- Insert centroid-1  and press submit in Form panel
13- Did the same for a few more polygons of cat 1
14- Did the same for a few more polygons of cat 2 and 3
15- Pressed Save and Exit

Then I realized that at my v.digit panel command output I had this warning
in there:
*Could not set Tcl system encoding to 'ascii' (unknown encoding ascii)*
*Unable to read vector map*

Questions:
1- Is this the right procedure?
2- What encoding should I use?
3- Regarding GRASSRGB field, what information usually you place in there?
Color code or color description?
4- For Supervised classification algorithms in GRASS, Vector type
(accessible by using Query raster/vector tool) should be Boundary? Because,
for instance, if I press a defined boundary, in some places I get Type: AREA
and in others: Boundary (as shown bellow)
(...)
Map: vector06
Mapset: landsat
Type: Boundary
Id: 9
Layer: 1
Category: 3
Driver: dbf
Database: C:\GRASS6\grassdata/North-Carolina/landsat/dbf/
Table: vector06
Key column: cat
cat : 3
train_lbl : urban
GRASSRGB : 3
(Thu Jun 17 10:34:04 2010) Command finished (0 sec)

(Thu Jun 17 10:34:06 2010)

v.what --q -a map=vecto...@landsat east_north=639279.744997,227730.071998
(...)
Map: vector06
Mapset: landsat
Type: Area
Sq Meters: 2158429.741
Hectares: 215.843
Acres: 533.360
Sq Miles: 0.8334
Layer: 1
Category: 3
Driver: dbf
Database: C:\GRASS6\grassdata/North-Carolina/landsat/dbf/
Table: vector06
Key column: cat
cat : 3
train_lbl : urban
GRASSRGB : 3

Thanks for your help and support

Jenny



On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Micha Silver mi...@arava.co.il wrote:

  On 06/16/2010 06:55 PM, Jenny Turner wrote:

 Hi Micha and GRASS-users/list

  Let me see if I get this straight
 1- use v.digit (e.g.  v.digit -n map=vector00 bgcmd=d.rast
 map=lsat5_1987_40 )
 2- Inside tcltk's digitizing menu select Digitize new Centroid
 3- Leave layer as 1?
 4- Change Mode to Manual Entry?

 All the above looks good.

  5- And for each Centroid I select a Cat right?

 Yes, always using the *same* cat for training areas of the same type.

 (Is this the proceeding?)

  About this, I have two questions:
 a- I have to leave Insert New record into table checked right?

 Yes

  b- After I left Insert New record into table checked, Layer 1 and Cat 1
 and Mode: Manual Entry, when I presss in the image a Error Window appeared
 stating: Database table for this layer is not defined. Where shall i define
 the database table for a new vectorial that I digitizing?

 Ah, v.db.addtable vector00 col=train_lbl varchar(16), GRASSRGB
 varchar(16)
 THis should setup an attrib table with two columns, one for a label and one
 for an RGB color for the training area.

  c- When I press the image a point is created but how can I define the
 boundaries of the centroid?

 First digitize the boundary. Here you need not enter any attributes. The
 cat values are also not relevant.
 NExt digitize a centroid inside each boundary. Give each centroid a cat
 value that matches the type of training area. So all the forests will be i.e
 cat=1, and all the urban will be i.e cat=10, etc.



  Thanks
 Jenny


 On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Micha Silver mi...@arava.co.il wrote:

   polygon to a certain category?

  This indeed is not obvious. What I've done is change the category mode
 from Next not used to Manual entry. This is set in the lower part of the
 v.digit window (in tcltk interface). Now each time you digitize a *centroid*
 for a training area, set its cat value to some standard value you choose.
 For example, you might decide:
 train_areacat
 
 forest 1
 agriculture2
 urban  9
 water 10
 

 Now for each training polygon which is a forest, set the cat value of its
 centroid to 1, agri areas will get value 2, and so on for all the centroids
 of all the training polygons. (Note that the cat values for the boundary
 lines are pretty much irrelevant in GRASS's vector model).

 When you're done digitizing training areas, you might add another column
 or two to the attrib table for the training areas -
 

[GRASS-user] v.rast.stats

2010-06-17 Thread Sandile Gumede
Hi

It is still giving me -NULL value error.

Do you think maybe its the way I downloaded my rainfall data? This is the
site where I downloaded my data sets* ftp://trmmopen.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/gis/
*and this data covers the whole world, the only thing I did was to clip a
specific region (using coordinates) that is in South Africa to do my
analysis. I used a bash script to download and project the data, see below:


#!/bin/bash

wget ftp://trmmopen.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/gis/3B42RT.2010032900.1day.tif
wget ftp://trmmopen.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/gis/3B42RT.2010032900.1day.tfw

gdal_translate -of GTiff -co PROFILE=GeoTIFF -co INTERLEAVE=PIXEL -co
COMPRESS=LZW -co TILED=YES -a_srs EPSG:4326 -a_ullr 18.2987501
-33.6795831 19.1712501 -34.3487498 3B42RT.2010032900.1day.tif
TRMMLast1day.tif




On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Sandile Gumede akasand...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi

 It is still giving me -NULL value error.

 Do you think maybe its the way I downloaded my rainfall data? This is the
 site where I downloaded my data sets*
 ftp://trmmopen.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/gis/ *and this data covers the whole
 world, the only thing I did was to clip a specific region (using
 coordinates) that is in South Africa to do my analysis. I used a bash script
 to download and project the data, see below:


 #!/bin/bash

 wget ftp://trmmopen.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/gis/3B42RT.2010032900.1day.tif
 wget ftp://trmmopen.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/gis/3B42RT.2010032900.1day.tfw

 gdal_translate -of GTiff -co PROFILE=GeoTIFF -co INTERLEAVE=PIXEL -co
 COMPRESS=LZW -co TILED=YES -a_srs EPSG:4326 -a_ullr 18.2987501
 -33.6795831 19.1712501 -34.3487498 3B42RT.2010032900.1day.tif
 TRMMLast1day.tif



 2010/6/15 Micha Silver mi...@arava.co.il

  On 15/06/2010 14:35, Sandile Gumede wrote:

 Hi
 If I run g.region rast=rainfall -p, I get:

 OK, what you've done here is change the current region to match the raster
 rainfall.
 Can you now try:
 v.rast.stats -c vect=catchments rast=rainfall pref=precip




 projection: 3 (Latitude-Longitude)
 zone:   0
 datum:  wgs84
 ellipsoid:  wgs84
 north:  33:40:46.49916S
 south:  34:20:55.49928S
 west:   18:17:55.50036E
 east:   19:10:16.50036E
 nsres:  0:00:05.01875
 ewres:  0:00:02.18125
 rows:   480
 cols:   1440
 cells:  691200

 and If I run r.univar rainfall, I get the following output:

  100%
 total null and non-null cells: 691200
 total null cells: 0

 Of the non-null cells:
 --
 n: 691200
 minimum: 0
 maximum: 3094
 range: 3094
 mean: 22.0228
 mean of absolute values: 22.0228
 standard deviation: 76.1639
 variance: 5800.94
 variation coefficient: 345.841 %
 sum: 15222164



 On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Hamish hamis...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Micha wrote:
  The only unusual thing I notice above is that the resolution settings
  for the raster are different N-S and E-W. This came from the original
  tiff (see below) which also has rectangular pixels,

  that is perfectly normal for a lat/lon map away from the equator.
 longitude scales a cos(lat).


  (the v.rast.stats module creates a temp raster at the *current region's
  resolution* settings, which might be different from this rainfall
  raster's rectangular resolution...)

  the results of:

 g.region -p rast=mapname
 r.univar mapname


 could help.


 Hamish






 --
 Kind Regards
 TS Gumede
 CSIR, Meraka Institute
 072 258 1650


 This mail was received via Mail-SeCure System.



 --
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 Arava Development Co.  +972-52-3665918




 --
 Kind Regards
 TS Gumede
 CSIR, Meraka Institute
 072 258 1650




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[GRASS-user] Compiling r.seg

2010-06-17 Thread katrin eggert
Hi there

I have tried to compile r.seg, a Segmentation developed by Trento
University. I Know this is not part of GRASS6.4 and not even an addon but
can you help me on this? (where I got the module
http://www.ing.unitn.it/~grass/)

This is the command:sudo make -C r.seg
MODULE_TOPDIR=/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn
The output:
make: Entering directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg'
aseglib
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/aseglib'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/aseglib'
src
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
gcc -L/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/lib -Wl,--export-dynamic
-Wl,-rpath-link,/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/lib-o
/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/bin/r.seg OBJ.i686-pc-linux-gnu/main.o  -laseg
-lgrass_gis -lgrass_datetime -lz -lm  -lz
make htmlcmd
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
make /usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/docs/html/r.seg.html
HTMLSRC=/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/bin/r.seg
make[3]: Entering directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
if [ /usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/bin/r.seg !=  ] ; then
GISRC=/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/demolocation/grassrc64
GISBASE=/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn PATH=/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/bin:$PATH
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/bin:/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/lib:
LC_ALL=C /usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/bin/r.seg --html-description  /dev/null
| grep -v '/body\|/html'  r.seg.tmp.html ; true ; fi
/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/tools/mkhtml.sh r.seg ; mkdir -p
/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/docs/html ; /usr/bin/install -c  -m 644
r.seg.tmp.html /usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/docs/html/r.seg.html ; for file in
 *.png *.jpg ; do head -n 1 $file | grep '^#!'  /dev/null ; if [ $? -ne 0 ]
; then /usr/bin/install -c  -m 644 $file /usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/docs/html
; fi done 2 /dev/null ; true
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
make mancmd
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
make /usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/man/man1/r.seg.1
MANSRC=/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/docs/html/r.seg.html
make[3]: Entering directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
mkdir -p /usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/man/man1
GRASS_PERL=/usr/bin/perl VERSION_NUMBER=6.4.0svn sh
/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/tools/g.html2man/g.html2man
/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/docs/html/r.seg.html
/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/man/man1/r.seg.1 1
sh: Can't open /usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/tools/g.html2man/g.html2man
make[3]: *** [/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/man/man1/r.seg.1] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
make[2]: *** [mancmd] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
make[1]: *** [cmd] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
make: Leaving directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg'

Does it seems to all ok?
At my GRASS binary folder I don't have an executable
(application/x-executable) but a KSeg document (application/x-kseg) that can
be runned from GRASS. Is this normal/expected?

Thanks
Katrin
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[GRASS-user] scripts

2010-06-17 Thread Sandile Gumede
Hi

I'm not familiar with bash scripting, I want to write a script that starts
GRASS and create a new LOCATION and a MAPSET, specify the coordinate system
for my database, specify a geodetic datum for the LOCATION, import datasets
into the GRASS, do watershed analysis on the DEM data set, convert DEM
raster into vector, and then calculate univariate statistics from a GRASS
raster map.

Can you guys help me with this? I tried to write a script and I got stucked,
see below:

#!/bin/sh

#variable to customize:
# path to GRASS software main directory
GISBASE=/usr/bin/grass64
# path to GRASS database
GISDBASE=$HOME/grassdem

# nothing to change below
#MAP=PERMANENT
#LOCATION=SRTMDEM


# generate temporal LOCATION:
LOCATION=srtmdem
mkdir -p $GISDBASE/$LOCATION/PERMANENT

# save existing $HOME/.grassrc6
if test -e $HOME/.grassrc6 ; then
mv $HOME/.grassrc6 /$HOME/grassdem/$LOCATION.grassrc6
fi

echo LOCATION_NAME: $LOCATION  $HOME/.grassrc6
echo MAPSET:tmp  $HOME/.grassrc6
echo DIGITIZER: none  $HOME/.grassrc6
echo GISDBASE: $GISDBASE  $HOME/.grassrc6
export GISBASE=$GISBASE





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Re: [GRASS-user] Compiling r.seg

2010-06-17 Thread Leonardo Hardtke

Hi,
I compiled r.seg in grass 6.5 (Ubuntu 10.04) but it must be the same in 
grass 6.4. Just copy r.seg directory to the raster subdirectory of the 
grass source code tree.

cd /usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/ratster/r.seg
make
when done...
cd /usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn
make
sudo make install.

Hope it helps

On 06/17/2010 08:22 AM, katrin eggert wrote:

Hi there

I have tried to compile r.seg, a Segmentation developed by Trento 
University. I Know this is not part of GRASS6.4 and not even an addon 
but can you help me on this? (where I got the module 
http://www.ing.unitn.it/~grass/ http://www.ing.unitn.it/%7Egrass/)


This is the command:sudo make -C r.seg 
MODULE_TOPDIR=/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn

The output:
make: Entering directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg'
aseglib
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/aseglib'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/aseglib'
src
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
gcc -L/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/lib -Wl,--export-dynamic 
-Wl,-rpath-link,/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/lib-o 
/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/bin/r.seg OBJ.i686-pc-linux-gnu/main.o 
 -laseg -lgrass_gis -lgrass_datetime -lz -lm  -lz

make htmlcmd
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
make /usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/docs/html/r.seg.html 
HTMLSRC=/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/bin/r.seg

make[3]: Entering directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
if [ /usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/bin/r.seg !=  ] ; then 
GISRC=/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/demolocation/grassrc64 
GISBASE=/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn 
PATH=/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/bin:$PATH 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/bin:/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/lib: 
LC_ALL=C /usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/bin/r.seg --html-description  
/dev/null | grep -v '/body\|/html'  r.seg.tmp.html ; true ; fi
/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/tools/mkhtml.sh r.seg ; mkdir -p 
/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/docs/html ; /usr/bin/install -c  -m 644 
r.seg.tmp.html /usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/docs/html/r.seg.html ; for 
file in  *.png *.jpg ; do head -n 1 $file | grep '^#!'  /dev/null ; 
if [ $? -ne 0 ] ; then /usr/bin/install -c  -m 644 $file 
/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/docs/html ; fi done 2 /dev/null ; true

make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
make mancmd
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
make /usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/man/man1/r.seg.1 
MANSRC=/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/docs/html/r.seg.html

make[3]: Entering directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
mkdir -p /usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/man/man1
GRASS_PERL=/usr/bin/perl VERSION_NUMBER=6.4.0svn sh 
/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/tools/g.html2man/g.html2man 
/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/docs/html/r.seg.html 
/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/man/man1/r.seg.1 1

sh: Can't open /usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/tools/g.html2man/g.html2man
make[3]: *** [/usr/local/grass-6.4.0svn/man/man1/r.seg.1] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
make[2]: *** [mancmd] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
make[1]: *** [cmd] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg/src'
make: Leaving directory `/home/knrr/Desktop/GRASS_dvp/r.seg'

Does it seems to all ok?
At my GRASS binary folder I don't have an executable 
(application/x-executable) but a KSeg document (application/x-kseg) 
that can be runned from GRASS. Is this normal/expected?


Thanks
Katrin


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[GRASS-user] Re: Compiling r.seg

2010-06-17 Thread katrin eggert
Hello Leonardo
It wAs more or less what I have done. Thanks... My only question was related
with binary file because it's slightly different from the others..
Regarding r.seg usability: have you tried/used? I'm having some difficulties
in using and parameterizing and there is not much information about it. Do
you have any additional information?

Thanks
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[GRASS-user] Import, project

2010-06-17 Thread stn
Hi,

I am new to grass and don't really know where to start.

Please give me some hints on

1) how to import+project a vector-shapefile  (containing one layer of
non-overlapping administrative regions) with unknown
projection+coordinate-system into a database with latitude/longitude

2) how to import+project a e00-rasterfile into the same database (containing
rasterpoints 1kmx1km, each with one scalar property)

3) how to export an ascii/excel/csv-list of every raster-point with a) the
corresponding scalar and b) the administrative region and c) the coordinates
lat/long of the raster-point

I could not import because the files be imported have a different coordinate
system and import was refused because of that.

I tried to google for a commandline/gui-program that reprojects, found a few
like shpproj, g.proj, m.proj, none of which seem to have anything to do with
reprojecting a shape-file.

I use grass 6.4 on windows (linux is fine too) and have already created a
workspace fitted for germany with lat/long-coordinates in an appropriate
resolution.

Thanks
stn
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Re: [GRASS-user] Import, project

2010-06-17 Thread Hamish
stn wrote:
 I am new to grass and don't really know where to start.

here is a good place:
  http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_Help

also the GRASS book is very good.

also Markus's quick intro guides:
  http://grass.osgeo.org/grass64/manuals/html64_user/index.html


 Please give me some hints on
 1) how to import+project a vector-shapefile  (containing one layer of
 non-overlapping administrative regions) with unknown
 projection+coordinate-system into a database with latitude/longitude

these should help:
 http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Importing_data
 http://grass.osgeo.org/grass64/manuals/html64_user/projectionintro.html

you have to create a GRASS Location for each source map projection, then
pull them all into the target Location with r.proj or v.proj.


 2) how to import+project a e00-rasterfile into the same database
 (containing rasterpoints 1kmx1km, each with one scalar property)

not sure, v.in.e00 handles the vector side, probably r.in.gdal does
the raster side.


 3) how to export an ascii/excel/csv-list of every raster-point with a)
 the corresponding scalar and b) the administrative region and c) the
 coordinates lat/long of the raster-point 

r.out.xyz, or r.to.vect + v.out.ascii
maybe with some other custom magic along the way.


 I could not import because the files be imported have a different
 coordinate system and import was refused because of that.

 I tried to google for a commandline/gui-program that reprojects, found a
 few like shpproj, g.proj, m.proj, none of which seem to have anything to
 do with reprojecting a shape-file.

you were close, v.proj and r.proj are the two. v.proj for an imported
shapefile (v.in.ogr to import it). maps must import into a location of
their natural projection and be reprojected from there.

from the command line GDAL's ogr2ogr and gdalwarp can reproject shapefiles
and GeoTiffs etc directly.


 I use grass 6.4 on windows (linux is fine too) and have already created
 a workspace fitted for germany with lat/long-coordinates in an
 appropriate resolution.

ok. when importing maps GRASS generally ignores the current region settings
and uses the data's natural bounds and resolution.


Hamish


  
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Re: [GRASS-user] Import, project

2010-06-17 Thread Micha Silver

On 06/17/2010 08:59 PM, stn wrote:

Hi,

I am new to grass and don't really know where to start.

With the man pages ;-)


Please give me some hints on

1) how to import+project a vector-shapefile  (containing one layer of 
non-overlapping administrative regions) with unknown 
projection+coordinate-system into a database with latitude/longitude
If you don't know the projection of the source layer, you're pretty much 
out of luck. There's no way GRASS (or any GIS for that matter) can use 
geographic data without knowing its CRS.
No *.prj attached to the shapefile?? Does it overlap correctly with 
other layers of known CRS??


2) how to import+project a e00-rasterfile into the same database 
(containing rasterpoints 1kmx1km, each with one scalar property)
I'm not sure about e00 raster. I think you have to import as a vector 
then convert to raster, so:

v.in.e00
then use one of the interpolation modules (i.e. v.surf.rst)
Another way might be to use ogr2ogr to convert the e00 file to an ascii 
grid, then import that as a raster.


3) how to export an ascii/excel/csv-list of every raster-point with a) 
the corresponding scalar and b) the administrative region and c) the 
coordinates lat/long of the raster-point



r.out.xyz does that

I could not import because the files be imported have a different 
coordinate system and import was refused because of that.


I tried to google for a commandline/gui-program that reprojects, found 
a few like shpproj, g.proj, m.proj, none of which seem to have 
anything to do with reprojecting a shape-file.


If you do find the correct projection of the original shapefile, then 
you'll need to create two GRASS locations: one defined by the projection 
of the shapefile, and the second defined by Lon/Lat WGS84 . Then you

* import the shapefile into the Location that matches its projection
* switch to the target (WGS84) Location
* and from there, you run v.proj to reproject into the target projection.
I use grass 6.4 on windows (linux is fine too) and have already 
created a workspace fitted for germany with lat/long-coordinates in an 
appropriate resolution.



Keep us posted on your progress.

Thanks
stn

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Re: [GRASS-user] Import, project

2010-06-17 Thread Mark Seibel
 2) how to import+project a e00-rasterfile into the same database (containing
 rasterpoints 1kmx1km, each with one scalar property)

This solution may not help if ESRI software is inaccessible, but
perhaps the maintainer of the .e00 data can do this conversion for
you.  I verified it does work (I cant locate how to import a raster
.e00).  The raster ascii .e00 uses different formatting than an export
from ArcToolbox using Raster to ASCII.  I imported a raster .e00 in
ArcToolbox to an arc/info GRID, then exported it to an ASCII file with
the ArcCatalog tool Raster to ASCII.  This exported raster ASCII
data can be directly imported into GRASS with the r.in.arc module.

I also noticed that if you tail the last portion of the raster .e00
file ($ tail -n 50 someFile.e00), you can see the projection
definition information, which helps to setup the right location in
GRASS for importing.  Note: you will only see the definition if a user
applied the definition.

Apologies in advance for a non-open source solution, but I hope can
help if there are no other options.

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Re: [GRASS-user] Using Tck/tk vector digitizer for training areas

2010-06-17 Thread Micha Silver

On 06/17/2010 12:36 PM, Jenny Turner wrote:

Thanks Micha for your help but I got an error while doing this

1- Create new empty vectorial
2- run v.db.addtable command that you kindly sent me
3- use v.digit as defined previously
4- Inside tcltk's digitizing menu select Digitize new Centroid
5- Leave layer as 1
6- Change Mode to Manual Entry
7- First digitize boundary (by selecting boundary) by selecting points 
with left-mouse-button and close polygon with right-mouse-button
8- A panel with FORM title appears with a tab saying Attributes 
saying: New record was created saying CAT : 1 (this cat refers to 
the land cover category right?); train_lbl value and GRASSRGB;

9- I place the values (water,1) for train_lbl and GRASSRGB
10- a box ask me for ASSUME DATA ENCODING AS a list appears. I 
should select which one? ASCII?
11- In trhis case I select ASCII and press SUBMIT. In the bottom of 
that box Record successfully updated appeared.

12- Insert centroid-1  and press submit in Form panel
13- Did the same for a few more polygons of cat 1
14- Did the same for a few more polygons of cat 2 and 3
15- Pressed Save and Exit

Then I realized that at my v.digit panel command output I had this 
warning in there:

*Could not set Tcl system encoding to 'ascii' (unknown encoding ascii)*
*Unable to read vector map*

Questions:
1- Is this the right procedure?
Yes. I'd just add one thing that might make the work easier. You don't 
need to enter the label and GRASSRGB for each centroid. Just leave them 
blank. Then, when you're all finished digitizing, you can run an update 
such as:

echo 'UPDATE vector06 SET train_lbl=Forest WHERE cat=1' | db.execute
echo 'UPDATE vector06 SET GRASSRGB=0:255:0 WHERE cat=1' | db.execute
(The second line will set the GRASSRGB column to green )


2- What encoding should I use?

Perhaps try Latin1
3- Regarding GRASSRGB field, what information usually you place in 
there? Color code or color description?
The format is a text string containing three numbers =255 separated by 
':'. So i.e. 128:128:128 is medium gray.
4- For Supervised classification algorithms in GRASS, Vector type 
(accessible by using Query raster/vector tool) should be Boundary? 
Because, for instance, if I press a defined boundary, in some places I 
get Type: AREA and in others: Boundary (as shown bellow)
AFAIK, each of the classification algorithms needs a *raster* map of 
training areas. So your next step, after finishing the vector map of 
training areas, will be to convert it to raster. So you'll be doing 
something like:

v.to.rast vector06 out=train06 use=cat type=area
Now the cat value that will be used for each raster pixels inside a 
vector area is the cat value of the *centroid*.  Again, the boundary in 
GRASS's topological vector structure is not relevant to the enclosed 
area's attributes.  You can, if you want, give the boundary the same cat 
value, and same GRASSRGB as the centroid. Then, if you use this column 
to color the vector when displaying the map, the boundary and the filled 
area will be in the same color. But for classification, when you convert 
the vector training areas to raster, what will be used is the *centroid* 
cat value.



(...)
Map: vector06
Mapset: landsat
Type: Boundary
Id: 9
Layer: 1
Category: 3
Driver: dbf
Database: C:\GRASS6\grassdata/North-Carolina/landsat/dbf/
Table: vector06
Key column: cat
cat : 3
train_lbl : urban
GRASSRGB : 3
(Thu Jun 17 10:34:04 2010) Command finished (0 sec)
(Thu Jun 17 10:34:06 2010)
v.what --q -a map=vecto...@landsat east_north=639279.744997,227730.071998
(...)
Map: vector06
Mapset: landsat
Type: Area
Sq Meters: 2158429.741
Hectares: 215.843
Acres: 533.360
Sq Miles: 0.8334
Layer: 1
Category: 3
Driver: dbf
Database: C:\GRASS6\grassdata/North-Carolina/landsat/dbf/
Table: vector06
Key column: cat
cat : 3
train_lbl : urban
GRASSRGB : 3

Thanks for your help and support

Jenny



On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Micha Silver mi...@arava.co.il 
mailto:mi...@arava.co.il wrote:


On 06/16/2010 06:55 PM, Jenny Turner wrote:

Hi Micha and GRASS-users/list

Let me see if I get this straight
1- use v.digit (e.g. v.digit -n map=vector00 bgcmd=d.rast
map=lsat5_1987_40 )
2- Inside tcltk's digitizing menu select Digitize new Centroid
3- Leave layer as 1?
4- Change Mode to Manual Entry?

All the above looks good.


5- And for each Centroid I select a Cat right?

Yes, always using the *same* cat for training areas of the same type.

(Is this the proceeding?)

About this, I have two questions:
a- I have to leave Insert New record into table checked right?

Yes


b- After I left Insert New record into table checked, Layer 1
and Cat 1 and Mode: Manual Entry, when I presss in the image a
Error Window appeared stating: Database table for this layer is
not defined. Where shall i define the database table for a new
vectorial that I digitizing?

Ah, v.db.addtable vector00 col=train_lbl varchar(16), 

[GRASS-user] how to get raster region corresponding to vector polygon region?

2010-06-17 Thread Ken Kwasnicki




Hello,
I have a raster map (dem) and I want to select a region of the raster
corresponding to a polygon that is in a vector map. What is the best
way to do this? It looks like r.in.poly might be along the lines of
what I need but in that case I think I would need to generate the ascii
poly file first but I'm wondering if there is a better way? Seems like
there should be a single command to do this.

My vector map has 45 polygons with cat values 1..45, so I would like
to get a section from my raster map corresponding to one of the
polygons specified by cat value.

appreciate any help!
thanks,
ken



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Re: [GRASS-user] Import, project

2010-06-17 Thread stn
2010/6/17 Hamish hamis...@yahoo.com


 you have to create a GRASS Location for each source map projection, then
 pull them all into the target Location with r.proj or v.proj.


Hi Hamish, thanks for the infos.


Here is one thing I can't get into my head.

First there is the problem that I do not know the coordinates and projection
etc of the two files mentioned. Of course I can go to someone with
esri-software and ask him to check that for me.

But in my (apparently very naive) view I this is completely not the point.
If I have to use esri anyway then why bother taking data into grass ??

What I would think is this: If I can find out the projection/coordinates etc
of the shapefile by any manual means then this info MUST BE included in the
shapefile itself. Along with the actual geodata.

More so the import-program within grass cannot import even a single byte
without thorough knowledge of the imported format, but i seems that it can
only read objects but not their coordinate-system.


So: If all the info is already in the shapefile there then why

1) do I have to manually find it by some way outside grass and

2) why doesn't the import-program simply read that info from the file, read
the coordinates and projection from the current location and the call the
appropriate projection-program to reproject the imported file to fit the
current location.

All the infos (proj/coord/bounds/etc) of import and target are there (says
the naive man :-) , the sequence of operations is completely obvious and
always exactly the same and yet everything has to be done manually.

If I want to recode a moviefile to another format I tell the encoder what I
want to have as an output and the encoder then looks by itself what format
the original has. What is different about geodata ?

I don't really mind doing that for one map. But somehow I expect lots more
maps from different sources being added later and each one causing lots of
work. What is it I don't understand here?




  3) how to export an ascii/excel/csv-list of every raster-point with a)
  the corresponding scalar and b) the administrative region and c) the
  coordinates lat/long of the raster-point

 r.out.xyz, or r.to.vect + v.out.ascii
 maybe with some other custom magic along the way.


Thanks, that sounds promising. I will try ASAP.




 from the command line GDAL's ogr2ogr and gdalwarp can reproject shapefiles
 and GeoTiffs etc directly.


Tried that (on ubuntu) :

u...@nb ~ $ gdalwarp file1.shp file1.out
ERROR 4: `file1.shp' not recognised as a supported file format.

and: gdalwrap --formats lists 88 formats including a few from esri, but no
shapefile.


stn
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[GRASS-user] Re: how to get raster region corresponding to vector polygon region?

2010-06-17 Thread Marcello Gorini


Kwas wrote:
 
 
 Hello, 
 I have a raster map (dem) and I want to select a region of the raster
 corresponding to a polygon that is in a vector map.nbsp; What is the best
 way to do this?nbsp; It looks like r.in.poly might be along the lines of
 what I need but in that case I think I would need to generate the ascii
 poly file first but I'm wondering if there is a better way?nbsp; Seems
 like
 there should be a single command to do this. 
 
 My vector map has 45 polygons with cat values 1..45,nbsp; so I would like
 to get a section from my raster map corresponding to one of the
 polygons specified by cat value. 
 
 appreciate any help! 
 thanks, 
 ken 
 
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Hello Ken,

I am also new to GRASS, but I have been doing what you want quite a lot
these days. There is probably a better way to do that (and I would like to
hear it very much, specially if there is a single command to do this), but
for now, I think the code below does the job:

g.region vect=your_vector
v.extract input=your_vector output=selected_polygon type=area
where=cat=desired_cat
v.to.rast input=selected_polygon output=polygon_rasterized use=val type=area
r.mask input=polygon_rasterized

Now, any processing that you do will be applied only in the region
corresponding to the selected polygon. 
If you want to create a raster corresponding to the selected polygon, just
do:

r.mapcalc new_raster=any_old_raster

To take out the mask, just type:
r.mask -r

Hope this helps,

Marcello.







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   1. Re: Compiling r.seg (katrin eggert)
   2. Import, project (stn)
   3. Re: Import, project (Hamish)
   4. Re: Import, project (Micha Silver)
   5. Re: Import, project (Mark Seibel)
   6. Re: Using Tck/tk vector digitizer for training areas
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:00:30 +0100
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Hello Leonardo
It wAs more or less what I have done. Thanks... My only question was related
with binary file because it's slightly different from the others..
Regarding r.seg usability: have you tried/used? I'm having some difficulties
in using and parameterizing and there is not much information about it. Do
you have any additional information?

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Subject: [GRASS-user] Import, project
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Hi,

I am new to grass and don't really know where to start.

Please give me some hints on

1) how to import+project a vector-shapefile  (containing one layer of
non-overlapping administrative regions) with unknown
projection+coordinate-system into a database with latitude/longitude
  
If you're really stuck on the vector's projection, import it into a flat 
location (using the import into new location option), then georectify 
it against a map with known projection.


However, I should warn that the interfaces for rectifying vectors can be 
confusing for the first-timer.


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Re: [GRASS-user] Import, project

2010-06-17 Thread Nikos Alexandris
(Apologies for the interference...)

Hamish:
  you have to create a GRASS Location for each source map projection, then
  pull them all into the target Location with r.proj or v.proj.

stn wrote: 
 Hi Hamish, thanks for the infos.

 Here is one thing I can't get into my head.
 
 First there is the problem that I do not know the coordinates and
 projection etc of the two files mentioned. Of course I can go to someone
 with esri-software and ask him to check that for me.

Shapefiles are build up by various files normally (not only one). Check if you 
have the .shx _and_ the one with extension .prj. If I am not wrong even 
under @rc-gis the .prj is required to work properly.

 But in my (apparently very naive) view I this is completely not the point.
 If I have to use esri anyway then why bother taking data into grass ??

There are several reasons why one can/should use grass. Long discussion. To 
make the long story short, there are links which might be of your interest [1]
[2][3].

If you are convinced that F(L)OSS is the way to go, then you have a *STRONG* 
reason to stick with grass and/or other open geo-spatial tools.

 What I would think is this: If I can find out the projection/coordinates
 etc of the shapefile by any manual means then this info MUST BE included
 in the shapefile itself. Along with the actual geodata.

I think these infos are not integrated in the file.

 More so the import-program within grass cannot import even a single byte
 without thorough knowledge of the imported format, but i seems that it can
 only read objects but not their coordinate-system.

grass-gis (in its entirety) is strict and clean, an honest friend which you 
can rely on, discuss, learn and find the way.
 
 So: If all the info is already in the shapefile there then why
 
 1) do I have to manually find it by some way outside grass and

 2) why doesn't the import-program simply read that info from the file, read
 the coordinates and projection from the current location and the call the
 appropriate projection-program to reproject the imported file to fit the
 current location.
 
 All the infos (proj/coord/bounds/etc) of import and target are there (says
 the naive man :-)

It would useful/helpful to feed the list with the actual information 
(filenames for example) that are beforehand. If those are there (as separate 
files, which is the way they should exist) then it should fairly easy and 
strait to import the data clean(ly) in grass' database.

 , the sequence of operations is completely obvious and
 always exactly the same and yet everything has to be done manually.
 
 If I want to recode a moviefile to another format I tell the encoder what I
 want to have as an output and the encoder then looks by itself what format
 the original has. What is different about geodata ?
 
 I don't really mind doing that for one map. But somehow I expect lots more
 maps from different sources being added later and each one causing lots of
 work. What is it I don't understand here?
 
   3) how to export an ascii/excel/csv-list of every raster-point with a)
   
   the corresponding scalar and b) the administrative region and c) the
   coordinates lat/long of the raster-point
  
  r.out.xyz, or r.to.vect + v.out.ascii
  maybe with some other custom magic along the way.
 
 Thanks, that sounds promising. I will try ASAP.
 
  from the command line GDAL's ogr2ogr and gdalwarp can reproject
  shapefiles and GeoTiffs etc directly.
 
 Tried that (on ubuntu) :
 
 u...@nb ~ $ gdalwarp file1.shp file1.out
 ERROR 4: `file1.shp' not recognised as a supported file format.
 
 and: gdalwrap --formats lists 88 formats including a few from esri, but no
 shapefile.

hint: check the output of ogrinfo --formats

(
gdal is a library of tools that handle raster data [4]. ogr tools are for 
vector stuff [5].
)

Good luck, Nikos

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[2] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html
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[4] http://www.gdal.org/ and http://www.gdal.org/gdal_utilities.html
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RE: [GRASS-user] Import, project [SEC=PERSONAL]

2010-06-17 Thread Andrew MacIntyre
 Nikos Alexandris wrote:
 
 If I am not wrong even under @rc-gis the .prj is required to work properly.

No, the .prj is not required but without it the dataset's coordinate system 
is undefined.

The .prj file for a shapefile is in WKT (well known text) format, and generally 
the coordinate system details should be easily identifiable.

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 -Original Message-
 From: grass-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:grass-user-
 boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Nikos Alexandris
 Sent: Friday, 18 June 2010 10:39 AM
 To: grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
 Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] Import, project
 
 (Apologies for the interference...)
 
 Hamish:
   you have to create a GRASS Location for each source map projection,
 then
   pull them all into the target Location with r.proj or v.proj.
 
 
  But in my (apparently very naive) view I this is completely not the point.
  If I have to use esri anyway then why bother taking data into grass ??
 
 There are several reasons why one can/should use grass. Long discussion. To
 make the long story short, there are links which might be of your interest [1]
 [2][3].
 
 If you are convinced that F(L)OSS is the way to go, then you have a
 *STRONG*
 reason to stick with grass and/or other open geo-spatial tools.
 
  What I would think is this: If I can find out the projection/coordinates
  etc of the shapefile by any manual means then this info MUST BE included
  in the shapefile itself. Along with the actual geodata.
 
 I think these infos are not integrated in the file.
 
  More so the import-program within grass cannot import even a single byte
  without thorough knowledge of the imported format, but i seems that it
 can
  only read objects but not their coordinate-system.
 
 grass-gis (in its entirety) is strict and clean, an honest friend which you
 can rely on, discuss, learn and find the way.
 
  So: If all the info is already in the shapefile there then why
 
  1) do I have to manually find it by some way outside grass and
 
  2) why doesn't the import-program simply read that info from the file, read
  the coordinates and projection from the current location and the call the
  appropriate projection-program to reproject the imported file to fit the
  current location.
 
  All the infos (proj/coord/bounds/etc) of import and target are there (says
  the naive man :-)
 
 It would useful/helpful to feed the list with the actual information
 (filenames for example) that are beforehand. If those are there (as separate
 files, which is the way they should exist) then it should fairly easy and
 strait to import the data clean(ly) in grass' database.
 
  , the sequence of operations is completely obvious and
  always exactly the same and yet everything has to be done manually.
 
  If I want to recode a moviefile to another format I tell the encoder what I
  want to have as an output and the encoder then looks by itself what
 format
  the original has. What is different about geodata ?
 
  I don't really mind doing that for one map. But somehow I expect lots more
  maps from different sources being added later and each one causing lots of
  work. What is it I don't understand here?
 
3) how to export an ascii/excel/csv-list of every raster-point with a)
   
the corresponding scalar and b) the administrative region and c) the
coordinates lat/long of the raster-point
  
   r.out.xyz, or r.to.vect + v.out.ascii
   maybe with some other custom magic along the way.
 
  Thanks, that sounds promising. I will try ASAP.
 
   from the command line GDAL's ogr2ogr and gdalwarp can reproject
   shapefiles and GeoTiffs etc directly.
 
  Tried that (on ubuntu) :
 
  u...@nb ~ $ gdalwarp file1.shp file1.out
  ERROR 4: `file1.shp' not recognised as a supported file format.
 
  and: gdalwrap --formats lists 88 formats including a few from esri, but no
  shapefile.
 
 hint: check the output of ogrinfo --formats
 
 (
 gdal is a library of tools that handle raster data [4]. ogr tools are for
 vector stuff [5].
 )
 
 Good luck, Nikos
 
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 [1] http://grass.osgeo.org/intro/firsttime.php
 [2] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html
 [3] http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html
 
 [4] http://www.gdal.org/ and http://www.gdal.org/gdal_utilities.html
 [5] http://www.gdal.org/ogr/ and
 http://www.gdal.org/ogr_utilities.html
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Re: [GRASS-user] Import, project

2010-06-17 Thread Daniel Victoria
As others have said, a shapefile is composed of several other files
(.shp, .shx, .dbf, .prj), each containing some different info. So,
even though the polygons and points coordinates are inside the .shp
file, you need to know the projection in order to know what those
coordinates represent (lat/long, meters, yards etc...).

Unfortunately, ESRI products will tolerate shapefiles without a
specific projection description (.prj file). So, if you don't have the
.prj file you can try some different approaches:
1) ask the data provider for the info
2) load the data against some other map with know projection. Here, I
believe QGis will allow you to load shapefiles even if you don't have
the prj file. So you will have to compare the data visually.

Of course the values of the coordinates can give you some hints as to
if you are working with UTM, lat/long etc...

Cheers
daniel

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, stn stneum...@web.de wrote:


 2010/6/17 Hamish hamis...@yahoo.com

 you have to create a GRASS Location for each source map projection, then
 pull them all into the target Location with r.proj or v.proj.

 Hi Hamish, thanks for the infos.


 Here is one thing I can't get into my head.

 First there is the problem that I do not know the coordinates and projection
 etc of the two files mentioned. Of course I can go to someone with
 esri-software and ask him to check that for me.

 But in my (apparently very naive) view I this is completely not the point.
 If I have to use esri anyway then why bother taking data into grass ??

 What I would think is this: If I can find out the projection/coordinates etc
 of the shapefile by any manual means then this info MUST BE included in the
 shapefile itself. Along with the actual geodata.

 More so the import-program within grass cannot import even a single byte
 without thorough knowledge of the imported format, but i seems that it can
 only read objects but not their coordinate-system.


 So: If all the info is already in the shapefile there then why

 1) do I have to manually find it by some way outside grass and

 2) why doesn't the import-program simply read that info from the file, read
 the coordinates and projection from the current location and the call the
 appropriate projection-program to reproject the imported file to fit the
 current location.

 All the infos (proj/coord/bounds/etc) of import and target are there (says
 the naive man :-) , the sequence of operations is completely obvious and
 always exactly the same and yet everything has to be done manually.

 If I want to recode a moviefile to another format I tell the encoder what I
 want to have as an output and the encoder then looks by itself what format
 the original has. What is different about geodata ?

 I don't really mind doing that for one map. But somehow I expect lots more
 maps from different sources being added later and each one causing lots of
 work. What is it I don't understand here?




  3) how to export an ascii/excel/csv-list of every raster-point with a)
  the corresponding scalar and b) the administrative region and c) the
  coordinates lat/long of the raster-point

 r.out.xyz, or r.to.vect + v.out.ascii
 maybe with some other custom magic along the way.

 Thanks, that sounds promising. I will try ASAP.




 from the command line GDAL's ogr2ogr and gdalwarp can reproject shapefiles
 and GeoTiffs etc directly.

 Tried that (on ubuntu) :

 u...@nb ~ $ gdalwarp file1.shp file1.out
 ERROR 4: `file1.shp' not recognised as a supported file format.

 and: gdalwrap --formats lists 88 formats including a few from esri, but no
 shapefile.


 stn



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Re: [GRASS-user] Import, project [SEC=PERSONAL]

2010-06-17 Thread Nikos Alexandris
Nikos Alexandris wrote:
  If I am not wrong even under @rc-gis the .prj is required to work
  properly.

On Friday 18 of June 2010 02:48:02 Andrew MacIntyre wrote:
 No, the .prj is not required but without it the dataset's coordinate
 system is undefined.
 The .prj file for a shapefile is in WKT (well known 
 text) format, and generally the coordinate system details should be easily
 identifiable.

Thanks for the correction. It's been some time that I have read the white 
paper about the Shapefile [1].

Cheers, Nikos

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[1] http://www.esri.com/library/whitepapers/pdfs/shapefile.pdf
Nice overview also at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapefile
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Re: [GRASS-user] Import, project

2010-06-17 Thread Nikos Alexandris
[...]

On Friday 18 of June 2010 03:47:25 Daniel Victoria wrote: 
 Of course the values of the coordinates can give you some hints as to
 if you are working with UTM, lat/long etc...
--8---

For example, what is the output of ogrinfo Shapefile.shp -al -ro -so?

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Re: [GRASS-user] Re: how to get raster region corresponding to vector polygon region?

2010-06-17 Thread Hamish
Marcello wrote:
 There is probably a better way to do that (and I would like to
 hear it very much, specially if there is a single command
 to do this), but for now, I think the code below does the job:
 
 g.region vect=your_vector
 v.extract input=your_vector output=selected_polygon type=area
 where=cat=desired_cat
 v.to.rast input=selected_polygon output=polygon_rasterized use=val type=area
 r.mask input=polygon_rasterized


another way (probably there are many),

v.to.rast
then a loop using r.reclass to make a temporary MASK map of each
category, then 
g.region rast=rasterized_vect
g.region zoom=rasterized_vect


r.reclass are tiny virtual maps (ie very quick to create+remove),
g.region zoom= starts at the current region and shrinks inward
until it hits a non-NULL cell. 



Hamish



  
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