Re: [GRASS-user] Broken link in manpage?

2016-04-09 Thread Paolo Cavallini 
Il 09/04/2016 18:32, Martin Landa ha scritto:
> 2016-04-09 18:21 GMT+02:00 Paolo Cavallini :
>> The problem is even more serious for Windows users, that cannot
>> generally compile themselves.
> 
> I already noted that there daily builds of 7.0.4svn [1]. Martin
> 
> [1] https://wingrass.fsv.cvut.cz/grass70/

yes, but this leaves out the huge majority of users, especially win ones.
however, as said I respect your decision, even if I disagree, so I'm not
going to insist on this issue.
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Re: [GRASS-user] Broken link in manpage?

2016-04-09 Thread Martin Landa 
2016-04-09 18:21 GMT+02:00 Paolo Cavallini :
> The problem is even more serious for Windows users, that cannot
> generally compile themselves.

I already noted that there daily builds of 7.0.4svn [1]. Martin

[1] https://wingrass.fsv.cvut.cz/grass70/

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Re: [GRASS-user] Broken link in manpage?

2016-04-09 Thread Paolo Cavallini 
Hi Moritz,

Il 09/04/2016 15:38, Moritz Lennert ha scritto:
> On 09/04/16 11:57, Paolo Cavallini wrote:

> 1) Either release point releases more often, but then we have to be even
> stricter than now concerning backports to the release branch. Otherwise
> we will undermine the reliability even more.

IMHO an important  module totally broken, without alternatives, is worth
an emergency release.

> 2) Integrate selected bug fixes as patches in the Debian package.

The problem is even more serious for Windows users, that cannot
generally compile themselves.

> 3) Provide a private Debian repository with daily packages for stable /
> testing / unstable branches of Debian.

-1: custom repos require a lot of effort to be properly maintained for
all distros, and are often source of problems.

> All three represent more workload and so the need for the necessary
> humanpower.
> 
> 1) is generally triggered when there is a really critical bug.
> Apparently not very many see v.generalize as a function that is critical
> enough to trigger a new release...

I see the point; however, I respectfully disagree with that.

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Re: [GRASS-user] Broken link in manpage?

2016-04-09 Thread Moritz Lennert 

On 09/04/16 11:57, Paolo Cavallini wrote:

Il 09/04/2016 11:54, Martin Landa ha scritto:


sorry, but we have some release policy. There are daily builds at
least for Windows [1] available. Ma

[1] https://wingrass.fsv.cvut.cz/grass70/


I respect the choices of the GRASS-PSC.
However, this IMHO undermines the Notorious GRASS Reliability(TM).



I understand your concern. I see three possible answers to this kind of 
problem:


1) Either release point releases more often, but then we have to be even 
stricter than now concerning backports to the release branch. Otherwise 
we will undermine the reliability even more.


2) Integrate selected bug fixes as patches in the Debian package.

3) Provide a private Debian repository with daily packages for stable / 
testing / unstable branches of Debian.


All three represent more workload and so the need for the necessary 
humanpower.


1) is generally triggered when there is a really critical bug. 
Apparently not very many see v.generalize as a function that is critical 
enough to trigger a new release...


Moritz
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Re: [GRASS-user] Broken link in manpage?

2016-04-09 Thread Paolo Cavallini 
Il 09/04/2016 11:54, Martin Landa ha scritto:

> sorry, but we have some release policy. There are daily builds at
> least for Windows [1] available. Ma
> 
> [1] https://wingrass.fsv.cvut.cz/grass70/

I respect the choices of the GRASS-PSC.
However, this IMHO undermines the Notorious GRASS Reliability(TM).
All the best.
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Re: [GRASS-user] Broken link in manpage?

2016-04-09 Thread Martin Landa 
2016-04-09 11:21 GMT+02:00 Paolo Cavallini :
> well, I'm asking because I believe levaing an important command, unique
> of grass,  totally broken for over 2 months is not good for the project.
> all the best.

sorry, but we have some release policy. There are daily builds at
least for Windows [1] available. Ma

[1] https://wingrass.fsv.cvut.cz/grass70/

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Re: [GRASS-user] Broken link in manpage?

2016-04-09 Thread Paolo Cavallini 
Il 09/04/2016 11:14, Martin Landa ha scritto:
> 2016-04-09 11:13 GMT+02:00 Paolo Cavallini :
>>> [1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/milestone/7.0.4
>>
>> exactly, that's what I'm asking for.
> 
> you don't need to ask for release, it's planned already:-) Ma

well, I'm asking because I believe levaing an important command, unique
of grass,  totally broken for over 2 months is not good for the project.
all the best.

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Re: [GRASS-user] Broken link in manpage?

2016-04-09 Thread Martin Landa 
2016-04-09 11:13 GMT+02:00 Paolo Cavallini :
>> [1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/milestone/7.0.4
>
> exactly, that's what I'm asking for.

you don't need to ask for release, it's planned already:-) Ma

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Re: [GRASS-user] Broken link in manpage?

2016-04-09 Thread Paolo Cavallini 
Il 09/04/2016 11:12, Martin Landa ha scritto:
> 2016-04-09 11:09 GMT+02:00 Paolo Cavallini :
>> packages for deb+osgeo4w
> 
> before that 7.0.4 must be released :-) see [1]. Ma
> 
> [1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/milestone/7.0.4

exactly, that's what I'm asking for.
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Re: [GRASS-user] Broken link in manpage?

2016-04-09 Thread Martin Landa 
2016-04-09 11:09 GMT+02:00 Paolo Cavallini :
> packages for deb+osgeo4w

before that 7.0.4 must be released :-) see [1]. Ma

[1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/milestone/7.0.4

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Re: [GRASS-user] Broken link in manpage?

2016-04-09 Thread Paolo Cavallini 
Il 09/04/2016 11:08, Martin Landa ha scritto:

> well, but it seems to be already fixed by Markus Metz. I am not sure
> what you are asking for. Ma

packages for deb+osgeo4w
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Re: [GRASS-user] Broken link in manpage?

2016-04-09 Thread Martin Landa 
2016-04-09 11:03 GMT+02:00 Paolo Cavallini :
> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2929

well, but it seems to be already fixed by Markus Metz. I am not sure
what you are asking for. Ma

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Re: [GRASS-user] Broken link in manpage?

2016-04-09 Thread Paolo Cavallini 
Il 09/04/2016 11:01, Martin Landa ha scritto:

> what do you mean by major platform and what bug exactly? Ma

to me this means Debian/Ubuntu and osgeo4w - other might add osx.
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2929
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Re: [GRASS-user] Broken link in manpage?

2016-04-09 Thread Martin Landa 
2016-04-09 10:55 GMT+02:00 Paolo Cavallini :
> thanks. BTW, any hope to have fixed v.generalize available for major
> platforms anytime soon?

what do you mean by major platform and what bug exactly? Ma

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Re: [GRASS-user] Broken link in manpage?

2016-04-09 Thread Paolo Cavallini 
Il 09/04/2016 10:47, Martin Landa ha scritto:

> thanks, fixed in r68225 (backported also to relbr70). Ma

thanks. BTW, any hope to have fixed v.generalize available for major
platforms anytime soon?
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Re: [GRASS-user] Broken link in manpage?

2016-04-09 Thread Martin Landa 
Ciao,

2016-04-09 10:25 GMT+02:00 Paolo Cavallini :
> in the v.generalize manpage there is apparently a broken link to the
> tutorial:
> http://users.ox.ac.uk/~orie1848/tutorial.html

thanks, fixed in r68225 (backported also to relbr70). Ma

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[GRASS-user] Broken link in manpage?

2016-04-09 Thread Paolo Cavallini 
Hi all,
in the v.generalize manpage there is apparently a broken link to the
tutorial:
http://users.ox.ac.uk/~orie1848/tutorial.html
Should I open a ticket?
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