when i wrote non-essential, i was not particularly addressng you
there are poeple (scholars and scholars in the making) who innocently
believe that only Dalits who assert are "essentialising" and not the
"secular" selves.
i dont know whther u think like that or not
as far as i know, u have shown th
Ranjith,
I feel tempted to respond ,but first decided not to do so before being
able to decipher what you had meant by
"non-essentialist"!
Could you help me?
Anyway, this is my response according to my understanding of the term.
I find lots of people here and I certainly do represent that secti
and other vested
interests had proved dwey's famous statement -politics is the shadow of big
business.
--- On Wed, 25/3/09, Afthab Ellath wrote:
> From: Afthab Ellath
> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Left's moralism and Mayawati as PM
> candidate-Kancha Illaiah
> To: green
ticular
> character of indian society.
> This is just a concern of any humman being who believes in social
> justice,democracy,freedom etc.
>
> --- On Tue, 24/3/09, ranju radha wrote:
>
> > From: ranju radha
> > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Left's moralism and Mayawati a
alit assertion.this is the particular character of
indian society.
This is just a concern of any humman being who believes in social
justice,democracy,freedom etc.
--- On Tue, 24/3/09, ranju radha wrote:
> From: ranju radha
> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Left's moralism and Mayawati as PM
>
exactly
i wont allow any one to steal that moment from me
and unlike many politically correct
secular/marxist/feminist/non-essentialist friends, i am a kind of person who
believ in blasphemy
so i need not face any secular dilemma
this is the time to be confident and say to oneself
YES WE CAN an
I would like to quote here Naomi Klien from an interview she gave after
Obama came to power.
this is it:
http://www.progressive.org/mag/intv0209.html
What was your first reaction to Obama’s victory?
Naomi Klein: Well, I made a really conscious choice that I was going to
enjoy the night. Obviously,
for me, i really feel proud and honored to be alive to see Mayavati and
Obama
i love the moment
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:40 PM, salimtk wrote:
> and that secular dilemma is historically embedded with criticism and
> compromise to various parties intellectually and maintained the emotional
>
and that secular dilemma is historically embedded with criticism and
compromise to various parties intellectually and maintained the emotional
detatchment.
that's why no feeling of happiness when seeing maya on stage. how can one
intellectually be happy :)
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:02 PM, ranju
>>>Or, can Maya appoint millions of Dalits in Government jobs when vacancies
don't exist?
maya is yet to become the "national" maya
else she should have been in a position to create "vacancies" out of nothing
which her sacred thread bearing politicians/academics/bureacrts etc etc have
been doing
is
> essential.Here,The over all dominance of the brahmanic social order Play
> their dirty games.
>
> --- On Sun, 22/3/09, Afthab Ellath wrote:
>
> > From: Afthab Ellath
> > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Left's moralism and Mayawati as PM
> candidate-Kancha Illaiah
>
gt; From: Afthab Ellath
> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Left's moralism and Mayawati as PM
> candidate-Kancha Illaiah
> To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 22 March, 2009, 4:44 PM
> I found the points
> raised by Salim in his first post, comparing the upper
> caste/co
> > > which
> > > > > will decide the future political equations
> > > > > just some preliminary observations..
>
> > > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 7:20 PM, C.K. Vishwanath <
> > > > > ck_vishwanath2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
; > >> ideological purity at all.
> > > >> mayavati is also a victim of this
> > > >> system.we have to remember the dalit criticsm of left is that
> > socialist
> > > >> brahmins are more dangeorous...and we can remember k.illaiah's
ch fronts,having no
> > > >> ideological purity at all.
> > > >> mayavati is also a victim of this
> > > >> system.we have to remember the dalit criticsm of left is that
> > socialist
> > > >> brahmins are more dangeorous...and we can remember k.il
ch fronts,having no
> > > >> ideological purity at all.
> > > >> mayavati is also a victim of this
> > > >> system.we have to remember the dalit criticsm of left is that
> > socialist
> > > >> brahmins are more dangeorous...and we can remember k.il
ch fronts,having no
> > > >> ideological purity at all.
> > > >> mayavati is also a victim of this
> > > >> system.we have to remember the dalit criticsm of left is that
> > socialist
> > > >> brahmins are more dangeorous...and we can remember k.il
ch fronts,having no
> > > >> ideological purity at all.
> > > >> mayavati is also a victim of this
> > > >> system.we have to remember the dalit criticsm of left is that
> > socialist
> > > >> brahmins are more dangeorous...and we can remember k.il
ch fronts,having no
> > > >> ideological purity at all.
> > > >> mayavati is also a victim of this
> > > >> system.we have to remember the dalit criticsm of left is that
> > socialist
> > > >> brahmins are more dangeorous...and we can remember k.il
ch fronts,having no
> > > >> ideological purity at all.
> > > >> mayavati is also a victim of this
> > > >> system.we have to remember the dalit criticsm of left is that
> > socialist
> > > >> brahmins are more dangeorous...and we can remember k.il
ch fronts,having no
> > > >> ideological purity at all.
> > > >> mayavati is also a victim of this
> > > >> system.we have to remember the dalit criticsm of left is that
> > socialist
> > > >> brahmins are more dangeorous...and we can remember k.il
parties were so dominant and they can
> > >> > manipulate republican party very easily.
> > >> > > Up is in deep debt.and she has to attract capital for
> > >> > development.and mayavait has to bring more political
> > >> > constituencies int
-option of dalits in hindutva
> >> fold very fastly.the neo-hindutva identity of these dalits can be the best
> >> resources for hinduva empire bulding ala modi model in gujarath.
> >> Another trap of golobalisation period is the concentration of power in
> >>
fold very fastly.the neo-hindutva identity of these dalits can be the best
>> resources for hinduva empire bulding ala modi model in gujarath.
>> Another trap of golobalisation period is the concentration of power in
>> judiciary rather than in legislature affects the rea
r in
> judiciary rather than in legislature affects the real politicisation process
> as well.
> How is to address these issues ?this is a survival question of mayavati
> politics in india.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 21/3/09, venukm wrote:
>
> > From: venukm
> > Sub
#x27;s idea of social consciosness
> is far off from up context.
> >
> > What ever may be the limitations,she can give a
> confidence.I thik that this confidence is the most
> important.
> > --- On Sat, 21/3/09, venukm
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
dkar's idea of social consciosness is far off from up context.
>
> What ever may be the limitations,she can give a confidence.I thik that this
> confidence is the most important.
> --- On Sat, 21/3/09, venukm wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: venukm
> > Subj
il society
india.Ambedkar's idea of social consciosness is far off from up context.
What ever may be the limitations,she can give a confidence.I thik that this
confidence is the most important.
--- On Sat, 21/3/09, venukm wrote:
> From: venukm
> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Left's m
:
From: venukm
Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Left's moralism and Mayawati as PM candidate-Kancha
Illaiah
To: "Green Youth Movement"
Date: Saturday, 21 March, 2009, 1:50 PM
While Illaiah is obviously complaining about left's moralism,
isn't he himself forging ahead wit
though i don't have any intention to formulate political stand based on the
comments from the so called 'neutral' spectators of TV news, i feel happy
hearing them saying when they see mayavati on news as future PM. some
comments:
"see where india is heading to"
"see an illeterate gonna be indian pm
While Illaiah is obviously complaining about left's moralism,
isn't he himself forging ahead with moralistic arguments in favour of
Mayavati?
What if Mayavati happens to be just another woman, (like Indira
Gandhi or Sushma Swaraj, who would compromise with the brutal
( patriarchal , brahmanica
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