Re: [Gregorio-users] Caeciliae-style punctum cavum

2016-06-14 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-06-13 23:06 GMT+02:00 Henry So Jr. : > Hello all, > > I would like to know how prevalent use of the Caeciliae-style punctum > cavum glyphs (the ones with circular holes rather than punctum-shaped > holes)? You would engage this by having \gresetpunctumcavum{alternate} > in your TeX file. >

[Gregorio-users] Nabc notation, line height and glyphs alignment

2016-06-20 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear All, I'm trying to add some complex nabc lines to gabc scores, trying to mantain a semi-diastematic writing (i.e. to preserve relative neumes height), copying neumes directly from manuscript sources. I don't know if I'm missing something but I noticed that: 1. I'm often forced to decide glyph

Re: [Gregorio-users] Nabc notation, line height and glyphs alignment

2016-06-21 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-06-20 18:48 GMT+02:00 Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae < sangiulioinferme...@gmail.com>: > 2. When a neume starts with a flat in gabc, the nabc related code seems to > be aligned on the flat, and I'm not able to move it further (adding /// for > instance). > .

Re: [Gregorio-users] Nabc notation, line height and glyphs alignment

2016-06-21 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear Jakub, thanks for your answer! For flats, I'm usually using /// and that works fine for me, like: > í(ghGF|``pe-1su2lse4)ta(ix-ghgh/i|///tr-1vihi)que(h|vi) > At the expense of breaking backwards compatibility, we perhaps could in > some > future release move the default for flats and natural

Re: [Gregorio-users] Nabc notation, line height and glyphs alignment

2016-06-22 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-06-21 20:37 GMT+02:00 Jakub Jelinek : > > For the ability to also not show nabc at the TeX level even when > nabc-lines: 1, > I agree it is a nice to have thing. > I don't know exactly how things work here, but maybe it could be possible something like the following: actually in gabc header

Re: [Gregorio-users] Nabc notation, line height and glyphs alignment

2016-06-22 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
> > and the letters a and b mean "above" and "below", so in this case: > nabc-lines:1a,2b,3a; > > we have 3 adiastematic writings, the 1st one following gabc code is > written immediately above the staff. the 2nd one is between the staff and > the text, the 3rd one is above the first one, over the

Re: [Gregorio-users] Nabc notation, line height and glyphs alignment

2016-06-22 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear Henry and All, - The header in gabc define the structure of the gabc file (i.e., how > many nabc lines are defined in the file). This means no additional > nabc-related headers in gabc. > - All other configuration (fonts and nabc position relative to the > staff) is in TeX, something l

[Gregorio-users] Spaces around bars in block

2016-06-23 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear All, I noticed that in block the space between the bar and first note ( (::) E(h) for instance) and space between last note and last bar (e(g) (::) for instance) is always the same, and it seems to be independent by lines justification (and this is correct), see examples attached. Are thos

Re: [Gregorio-users] Spaces around bars in block

2016-06-23 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear Elie, I'm not sure I understand your mail... but looking at the pictures, do > you mean it is not the same while you would like it to be the same? > Yes. I mean: first space (at the beginning of eu block) is always the same lenght, no matter if last line is justified or not. Last space (at t

Re: [Gregorio-users] Spaces around bars in block

2016-06-23 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
> > Sure, > > so adding > > \grechangedim{bar@finalfinalis@standalone@notext}{0.2323 cm}{scalable}% > \grechangedim{bar@finalfinalis@standalone@text}{0.2323 cm}{scalable}% > > in your sty file should make them equal. > Ooh, good! Thank you very very much! :) Sr. Maria Ruth __

Re: [Gregorio-users] Spaces around bars in block

2016-06-23 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
> > What do others think? Would it be useful to have a > > bar@finalfinalis@standalone@euouae > > ? > No, definitely. It is just to know what I can do. Thank you, Sr. Maria Ruth ___ Gregorio-users mailing list Gregorio-users@gna.org https://mail.gna.org

[Gregorio-users] Double clefs

2016-06-28 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear All, I have to reproduce the attached pdf score of a psalm tone with double clef (one clef next to another on all staves). It seems impossible with 4.2-rc1 (double clef on first syllable is not permitted). May we change this limitation? I think the two clefs can just be treated as one clef

Re: [Gregorio-users] Double clefs

2016-06-29 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
> > Dear Sister, > > I think you're looking for (c3@f3)! > Oh, thank you! I didn't thought about this solution!! *Optime!!* Thank you very much! Sr. M. Ruth ___ Gregorio-users mailing list Gregorio-users@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/gregorio-u

[Gregorio-users] Double clefs again...

2016-07-01 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear All, how can I get two clefs one above another (see pdf attached)? I thied with ({c2}c4) but it doesn't work... Thank you! Sr. M. Ruth TonusVI.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ Gregorio-users mailing list Gregorio-users@gna.org https://mai

Re: [Gregorio-users] Double clefs again...

2016-07-01 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
> > Please use (c2@c4) or (c4@c2), depending on which should be considered > the primary (first) clef for custos placement should shere be a key > change. > I already tried, but this allows me just to have two clefs one after another at the beginning of each line, while I need to have them vertica

Re: [Gregorio-users] Double clefs again...

2016-07-01 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-07-01 14:31 GMT+02:00 Henry So Jr. : > > This is working for me. Can you provide a sample gabc file, tex file, > and pdf? > Now works for me too, it was my fault. Thanks and sorry for wasting your time... Sr. Maria Ruth ___ Gregorio-users mailing

Re: [Gregorio-users] ANNOUNCEMENT - v4.2.0-rc2 Released

2016-07-05 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-07-05 22:53 GMT+02:00 Br. Samuel Springuel : > Even though we're normally feature frozen once we reach the release > candidate stage of release preparation, we've added a couple of features to > this release candidate which were considered priorities for some of our > bigger users. As a resu

Re: [Gregorio-users] ANNOUNCEMENT - v4.2.0-rc2 Released

2016-07-06 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear Developers, thank you so much for your work! My first trials are all fine, I just discovered a small bug on oriscus shape, see the MWE attached: it seems to me that when an oriscus is followed by another note on the same pitch, it's impossible to have it pointing down... Or I'm wrong somwhere

Re: [Gregorio-users] ANNOUNCEMENT - v4.2.0-rc2 Released

2016-07-06 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-07-06 17:23 GMT+02:00 R. Padraic Springuel : > I'm seeing both oriscus shapes in the attached, one on each ocurrance of > "tur". > Yes, the problem is that they should do always the second shape, while in first occurrance, being the gabc code the same, the shape is not "mirrored". Do you see

Re: [Gregorio-users] ANNOUNCEMENT - v4.2.0-rc2 Released

2016-07-06 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
> > Yes, the problem is that they should *do* always the second shape, > sorry, I miswrote... "they should BE always ..." thanks! Sr. M. Ruth, OSB ___ Gregorio-users mailing list Gregorio-users@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/gregorio-users

Re: [Gregorio-users] ANNOUNCEMENT - v4.2.0-rc2 Released

2016-07-06 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-07-06 22:26 GMT+02:00 Élie Roux : > Dear Sister, > > It's not very well documented, but you can force the direction of an > oriscus with 0 or 1: (io0) will give an oriscus going down, and (io1) > will give an oriscus going up. > Oh, thank you! So what does the syntax (io>) or (io<) mean now?

Re: [Gregorio-users] ANNOUNCEMENT - v4.2.0-rc2 Released

2016-07-07 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-07-07 8:55 GMT+02:00 Jakub Jelinek : > > Oh, thank you! > > So what does the syntax (io>) or (io<) mean now? > > Isn't it just deprecated now? > I've changed all of o< into o, o0 or o1 in my scores when transitioning > into > 4.1. > Sorry, I completely missed it... This means old syntax is i

[Gregorio-users] Big Initials

2016-07-07 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear All, I still have problems with big initials: it seems that I'm forced to use: \grechangestyle{biginitial}{.} to obtain a correct output, even if this command (deprecated but still working) gives an error flag and indicates to use: \grechangestyle{initial}{..} Instead. See the MWE

Re: [Gregorio-users] Information needed from TeXLive 2016 Users

2016-07-16 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-07-16 19:01 GMT+02:00 Br. Samuel Springuel : > If you have installed TeXLive 2016 (through any distribution channel) on > your system (all platforms) and have installed a 4.2.0 release candidate > (either one), I would greatly appreciate it if you could run our > system-setup helper script (.

[Gregorio-users] Clefs

2016-07-20 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear All, I need to start a new line (not the first one) of a score with a new clef, what should I do to avoid the first one appear before my clef change? For example, in I write: (c4) Do(h)mi(i)ne(g.) (z-) (f3) ec(c)ce(ef) At the beginning of my 2nd line I have both C clef and F clef. I had

Re: [Gregorio-users] Clefs

2016-07-20 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-07-20 22:30 GMT+02:00 Br. Samuel Springuel : > This is off the cuff and untested, but I think the solution is to put the > new clef in the same set of parentheses as the `z` which ends the line. > > Thanks for your hints, but adding simply the clef there doesn't work. I found the following tr

Re: [Gregorio-users] Clefs

2016-07-20 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
> > [...] > And everything's ok... A little bit tricky, but it works! > Well, to say the truth there are some problems with spaces: do macros affect spaces? They shouldn't, if I'm correct... Now I have odd spacing at the beginning and at the end of each line... Did I write macros code in the wron

Re: [Gregorio-users] Clefs

2016-07-21 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear Elie and All, Theoretically, Br Samuel's solution is the correct one, if it doesn't > work, could you please provide a minimal working example showing the > problem? It will be much easier than debugging "blindly"... > Here there's what I get with Br. Samuel's solution (if I understood corre

Re: [Gregorio-users] Clefs

2016-07-21 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-07-21 11:26 GMT+02:00 Élie Roux : > Well, congratulations, you found two bugs! > https://github.com/gregorio-project/gregorio/issues/1189 > https://github.com/gregorio-project/gregorio/issues/1190 > > I'm not totally sure about the first one, what do you think? To my eyes > the alignment is

Re: [Gregorio-users] Clefs

2016-07-21 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
> > Hmm... it should... not sure it does... if you have a mwe showing it > doesn't, I'll report it to! > Well, it seems quite strange to me the code you used in your example, but I'll finish my score and then I'll let you know what happens! Thank you very much, Sr. M. Ruth __

Re: [Gregorio-users] Clefs

2016-07-21 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear All, another problem: this code (Elie's last mwe for instance) doesn't work with a big initial 2 lines tall, because I'm forced to add the two 'z' that mess up everything... Thanks! Sr. M. Ruth ___ Gregorio-users mailing list Gregorio-users@gna.or

Re: [Gregorio-users] Clefs

2016-07-21 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-07-21 16:05 GMT+02:00 Élie Roux : > Thanks, I've added a comment in the bug report. > Thank you! > I think you'll need a version with these bugs fixed soon enough? Well... they're not essential, take your time, please! I don't want to overload you, when they'll be fixed, I'll finish what

[Gregorio-users] Strange spaces with clef change and custos

2016-07-21 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear All, in the MWE attached the space between the words "venissent" and "Gaudianum" and the following clef change with custos are uncorrect. I think the custos here make some problems... Thanks! Sr. M. Ruth OSB ClefChangeCustosMWE.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ClefChangeCustosMWE.tex

[Gregorio-users] Isolated nabc neumes

2016-08-10 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear All, is there a way to insert an isolated nabc neume into some text, as described in the hint here: http://gregorio-project.github.io/tips/isolatedneumes.html ? Thank you very much! Yours, Sr. Maria Ruth OSB ___ Gregorio-users mailing list Gregor

Re: [Gregorio-users] Isolated nabc neumes

2016-08-10 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-08-10 11:27 GMT+02:00 Jakub Jelinek : > > I think you answered your own question... what do you lack in the method > > described in the page? > > If you want it in text, perhaps \GreNABCChar{pe} and similar would work > too. > > Jakub > Thank you all, I'll try. Sr. M. Ruth _

Re: [Gregorio-users] Isolated nabc neumes

2016-08-10 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear Jakub If you want it in text, perhaps \GreNABCChar{pe} and similar would work too. >> > This doesn't work as a standalone command, maybe I should include it into a macro, as it is described on the hints&tricks page? I instintively defined the following: \makeatletter \def\gretextnabc#1{{\gr

Re: [Gregorio-users] Isolated nabc neumes

2016-08-10 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
> > It will if you call > > \GreScoreNABCLines{1} > > before (anywhere in your document). Right, it does! Thanks a lot! Sr. Maria Ruth ___ Gregorio-users mailing list Gregorio-users@gna.org https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/gregorio-users

[Gregorio-users] Strange spaces...

2016-08-11 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear All, in the MWE attached, I'm forced to add a () to last text ("Salve Mater.") to make it appear, and I'm forced also to add a \kern before it to avoid that it collapses on the R/ before. Moreover, adding the \kern value and the following text, the final bar is shifted ahead, but I don't reall

Re: [Gregorio-users] Problems with litany trick

2016-08-15 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-08-15 9:59 GMT+02:00 Élie Roux : > Dear Sister, > > The log is very strange and seems to indicate that you forgot to load > gregoriotex, but this is very strange too, would you have a minimal > example showing the problem? > I don't know if this could be enough... Thank you, Sr. M. Ruth

Re: [Gregorio-users] Indentation before versiculi

2016-08-29 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear Élie, I think the only way with the current state of Gregorio is to make > separate scores, with an initial but an empty one... or is it what failed? > I actually created a score for each versicle, but with \gresetinitiallines{0}. And this doesn't work. How can I get an empty initial? No let

Re: [Gregorio-users] Indentation before versiculi

2016-08-29 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-08-29 10:24 GMT+02:00 Élie Roux : > Looking quickly at the code, I think the easiest way should be something > like > > \gdef\optgabcAtScoreBeginning{\kern 5mm} > > in your main file, but I don't really have the time to test right now. > I'm affraid only this kind of tricks will work correctl

Re: [Gregorio-users] Indentation before versiculi

2016-08-29 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-08-29 14:31 GMT+02:00 Luís Henrique Camargo Quiroz : > >Hi, > >I once used a *white* and narrow "i" as an invisible initial: > > (c4) *\textcolor{white}{i}*4. Hi(h) ti(g)bi(h) > pas(h!iwj)sú(ji)ro(h_g) (,) sol(gh)vé(j)bant(jk) mú(ji)ni(h)a(g) lau(h)dis > :(h.) (:) Nos(h) ti(h)bi(g) re

[Gregorio-users] Space between double clefs

2016-11-03 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear All, I'm using the fusion feature to get two clefs at the beginning of a staff: what if I need to add some space inbetween? I tried (f3@!/c3) but this syntax produces an error flag. Thank you! *In Domino,* Sr. Maria Ruth ___ Gregorio-users mailing

Re: [Gregorio-users] Tutorial - asterisc placement

2016-11-04 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Rev. Father, I think that this is due to the space algorithm default parameters, which probably aren't the same on your system and on the on-line editor. I think that you should tune the parameters for the maximum shift for some text assigned to a bar, setting it to 0, for instance, try to add the

[Gregorio-users] Fwd: Tutorial - asterisc placement

2016-11-04 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Forwarded to the group: Rev. Father, I think the tutorial should be corrected. The alignment of the asteriscus > is quite often the one shown in the example. > > and: > > Having to use the command \grechangedim may be a bit confusing for > beginners. > Agreed... unfortunately I'm not able to do

Re: [Gregorio-users] Tutorial - asterisc placement

2016-11-06 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-11-04 16:12 GMT+01:00 Br. Samuel Springuel : > ...the new bar spacing algorithm ... is (and is supposed to be) the > default. In general it looks better, but obviously this is a case where > that doesn't hold true. > I'm wondering if it should be better to have those parameters ({maxbaroffs

Re: [Gregorio-users] two text lines

2016-12-01 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-12-01 13:11 GMT+01:00 Dr. Martin Senftleben : > Hi, > > once again this question to which I haven't received any reply yet: > > I want to use two lines of text under one staff. I found out that there > is an option to add translations in a second row underneath the main > text, by using []. H

Re: [Gregorio-users] two text lines

2016-12-01 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear Martin, > (c3)Hört[Vox](f) ei-[cla-](e) ne[ra](f) > > It doesn't work. If I do this, the output is: > > Hört eine ... > Vox c ra ... > is it the space after (e) necessary? I would do: (c3)Hört[Vox](f) ei[cla-](e)ne[ra](f) ... but I still can't figure out why the workaround doesn't work fo

Re: [Gregorio-users] Unable to open .gaux?

2016-12-01 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-12-01 20:02 GMT+01:00 Br. Anthony of the Desert < andrew.j.d...@gmail.com>: > Hello, > > When I put in the second \gregorioscore into my .tex file, it will not > compile. It gives me: > > Module gregoriotex Error: > > (gregoriotex) Unable to open "Meal Advent".gaux on input line 0 > > . > >

Re: [Gregorio-users] Grefactor and Greconffactor

2016-12-13 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-12-13 12:47 GMT+01:00 Henry So Jr. : > The old \grefactor is now divided into two related concepts: [...] > This is necessary to make it possible to use "absolute" (e.g, cm and pt) > and "relative" (e.g., em and ex) sizes when defining dimensions, and > those calculations will be based on \g

Re: [Gregorio-users] Grefactor and Greconffactor

2016-12-13 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2016-12-13 16:03 GMT+01:00 Br. Samuel Springuel : > The staff size (formerly `\grefactor` and still referred to internally as > `\gre@factor`) remains as it was. It is now changed with the more aptly > named `\grechangestaffsize`. > > `\greconffactor` (which appears in a spacing configuration fil

[Gregorio-users] Issue #1125

2017-01-14 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear All, I'm wondering if in the next big release scheduled for may 2017 the following feature https://github.com/gregorio-project/gregorio/issues/1125 will be available too? Thank you! Sr. Maria Ruth ___ Gregorio-users mailing list Gregorio-users@g

Re: [Gregorio-users] no compilation with 5.0.0 beta 1

2017-02-04 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2017-02-04 16:51 GMT+01:00 Frère Arnaud de Castelbajac < fradecastelba...@free.fr>: > Hello all, > > first of all, a great thank to the team of developers for the accomplished > work. > > I installed the beta version 5.0.0 1 on my PC (Windows 10 Pro + TeXLive on > 2016), but compilation does not w

[Gregorio-users] Curly brackets height

2017-02-05 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear all, I'm looking for a way to set the height of curly brackets above staff when they appear too close to last line, does anyone have a suggestion? Thank you! *In Domino,* Sr. Maria Ruth ___ Gregorio-users mailing list Gregorio-users@gna.org https:/

Re: [Gregorio-users] Curly brackets height

2017-02-06 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
2017-02-05 17:32 GMT+01:00 Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae < sangiulioinferme...@gmail.com>: > Dear all, > I'm looking for a way to set the height of curly brackets above staff when > they appear too close to last line > I found the solution by myself... braceshift p

[Gregorio-users] Spacebeneathtext behavior

2017-03-11 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Dear All, first I'd like to thank all Developers for the great job done with the 5-beta version. unfortunately I had no time to test it yet, but I hope to do it soon. In the past days, I discovered this ugly behavior in the spacebeneathtext parameter: when a negative value is assigned and a page

Re: [Gregorio-users] Gregorio input help

2017-04-12 Thread Infermeria Abbazia Mater Ecclesiae
Hi, your question is not so clear to me... can you elaborate, please? Or may you attach a picture of what you're looking for? Thank you, Sr. Maria Ruth OSB 2017-04-12 17:02 GMT+02:00 Henry Metcalfe <1hmetcalfe...@gmail.com>: > Hi there, > > Thank you so much for creating this software - amazin