Re: Fwd: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

Yes, "sudo install-font.sh " is simpler, as long as you know how to answer the prompts! I should have started there in my explanation. I guess the fact that I run the script potentially multiple times on multiple different computers makes my usage more complicated. I'll have to read the source

Re: Fwd: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

Kurt, thanks for saving me having to explain why groff doesn't know anything about install-font.sh and fontforge. Doug, I hope you see this. On Sat, Jul 17, 2021, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > In the meantime, if you want to install fonts in OpenType or TrueType > formats for use with devps and devpdf,

Fwd: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

Drats, I forgot to hit reply all, and my reply didn't get sent to the groff mailing list. Sigh. Here you go. -- Forwarded message - From: T. Kurt Bond Date: Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 12:08 AM Subject: Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in

Re: Would it be reasonable to list the fonts that are available by default in groff?

>> I'm generally an intrepid groff user, but not when it comes to font >> installation. Anything that demystifies the process will win my applause. > Despite the vagaries of directory locations, once you understand what > install-font.sh wants and fontforge is installed install-font.sh is >

[bug #60916] [mm] ms.cov asks for fonts by name, making man page dubious

Follow-up Comment #2, bug #60916 (project groff): [comment #1 comment #1:] > > [comment #0 original submission:] > > Rather than porting ms.cov to use the antiquated feature of font positions, I propose to move the rest of mm back to the named font mechanism, adapting HF as conceived above.

[bug #60916] [mm] ms.cov asks for fonts by name, making man page dubious

Follow-up Comment #1, bug #60916 (project groff): [comment #0 original submission:] > Rather than porting ms.cov to use the antiquated feature of font positions, I propose to move the rest of mm back to the named font mechanism, adapting HF as conceived above. People can use the `ftr` request

[bug #60930] Integrate Peter Schaffter's font installer script into groff

Follow-up Comment #1, bug #60930 (project groff): [comment #0 original submission:] > * Further discussion of tasks and links to previous discussion: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/groff/2021-07/msg00065.html This also suggests this item would be suitable for someone without deep groff

[bug #60926] [mm] use of AT with ms.cov provokes warnings

Update of bug #60926 (project groff): Status: In Progress => Fixed Open/Closed:Open => Closed Planned Release:None => 1.23.0

[bug #60700] [mm] lack of real "locale" and "se_locale" files provokes warning

Update of bug #60700 (project groff): Status: In Progress => Fixed Open/Closed:Open => Closed Planned Release:None => 1.23.0

[bug #60397] [mm] define string "RE" before it is used as the version

Update of bug #60397 (project groff): Status: In Progress => Fixed Open/Closed:Open => Closed Planned Release:None => 1.23.0

[bug #60915] [mm] aligns date wrong if ms cover sheet used with no firm defined

Update of bug #60915 (project groff): Status: In Progress => Fixed Open/Closed:Open => Closed Planned Release:None => 1.23.0

[groff] 23/35: groff_font(5): Fix style nits.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit b9efdb1098c3d12407bbac98604c210302c72d58 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Fri Jul 16 06:48:56 2021 +1000 groff_font(5): Fix style nits. * Promote "DESC file format" subsection to section. * Rename

[groff] 21/35: [docs]: Relocate material.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 5eebf9ee38ed4aa4c5959fba97b89fc4bd60b11c Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Fri Jul 16 02:23:07 2021 +1000 [docs]: Relocate material. * doc/groff.texi (Font File Format): * man/groff_font.5.man

[groff] 19/35: groff_tmac(5): Fix style nits.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 51b8b979769f3592aa84fac427fba47063453b5b Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Thu Jul 15 06:24:39 2021 +1000 groff_tmac(5): Fix style nits. * Fix grammar nit. * Remove superfluous wording. If `mso`

[groff] 18/35: groff(7): Recast ec, eo, ev, evc req descriptions.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 3db0afb72635c36e66b695377aaa57787617f5a7 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Thu Jul 15 06:21:01 2021 +1000 groff(7): Recast ec, eo, ev, evc req descriptions. --- man/groff.7.man | 26 +- 1

[groff] 14/35: groff_mm(7): Update cover sheet stuff.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 8f4b644a57f970d76aaf801c5b1e0dcaead64ae4 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Thu Jul 15 04:22:12 2021 +1000 groff_mm(7): Update cover sheet stuff. * contrib/mm/groff_mm.7.man (Description/Macros) :

[groff] 13/35: groff_mm(7): Fix lexical nit.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 90d93df605a1e45bfd4a7538cab700cacab23edb Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Thu Jul 15 04:08:27 2021 +1000 groff_mm(7): Fix lexical nit. Migrate to the simple term "string" from "variable", "string

[groff] 10/35: groff_tmac(5): Rename and recast subsection.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 04feea948f053bd65ed89fcb0458660b272940e2 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Wed Jul 14 23:39:25 2021 +1000 groff_tmac(5): Rename and recast subsection. "Special" -> "Auxiliary" packages, in part because the

[groff] 11/35: groff_mm(7): Update register, string intro.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit baefbc22c517918da58886be30ddfe7045103b72 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Thu Jul 15 00:06:44 2021 +1000 groff_mm(7): Update register, string intro. Recast subsection "Registers and strings" to more

[groff] 09/35: preconv(1): Say "no-break control character".

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit a09556c8dd43b714e771cfe6d67c54383cfd7736 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Wed Jul 14 23:31:18 2021 +1000 preconv(1): Say "no-break control character". See commit 04e63f00a0c1ef06b7cee2b68876e96fd4d80698,

[groff] 35/35: [mm]: Refactor author title handling.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 4fd984adc9468080aa2c7e762f83dddb28790bd1 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Sat Jul 17 10:19:16 2021 +1000 [mm]: Refactor author title handling. * contrib/mm/m.tmac (AU): Emit error diagnostic and skip

[groff] 25/35: doc/groff.texi: Fix markup nits.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 81e035675ecb5f72aa71f6178cfdf5d63df59045 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Sat Jul 17 02:53:40 2021 +1000 doc/groff.texi: Fix markup nits. * Consistently set output device names with @code, not @samp. *

[groff] 03/35: [mm]: Update documentation of ISO date feature.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 4f3b1e335abbcf16f7490fefb5abb17dd8a8a562 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Tue Jul 13 22:19:53 2021 +1000 [mm]: Update documentation of ISO date feature. * contrib/mm/NOTES: Tighten wording and fix grammar.

[groff] 16/35: groff_mm(7): Fix quotation style nit.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 0f9427058941afda359602a5519f1ce551f1ea3d Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Thu Jul 15 04:54:28 2021 +1000 groff_mm(7): Fix quotation style nit. * Migrate from \[oq] and \[cq] to \[lq] and \[rq].

[groff] 12/35: groff_mm(7): Update font substitution advice.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 14452ece11a3a4af8763b1c709091c4c656a55fc Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Thu Jul 15 03:52:46 2021 +1000 groff_mm(7): Update font substitution advice. * contrib/mm/groff_mm.7.man (Description/Fonts):

[groff] 07/35: groff_mm(7): Fix lexical and style nits.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 0f890f3b4d8d7af333f876fca47d7ba0fdc4c8f8 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Wed Jul 14 23:55:03 2021 +1000 groff_mm(7): Fix lexical and style nits. * contrib/mm/groff_mm.7.man: - Migrate to the simple

[groff] 05/35: [mm]: Fix typo in internal string name.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit d798235c457d342dbe34168c2001dd951fa1a9d1 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Wed Jul 14 12:46:47 2021 +1000 [mm]: Fix typo in internal string name. * contrib/mm/m.tmac: Rename `cov*mt-addresse` to

[groff] 32/35: [mm]: Fix Savannah #60397.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 34dc831a766c0b6eeb89a1a0b9ed93fa0efe33f1 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Sat Jul 17 08:48:51 2021 +1000 [mm]: Fix Savannah #60397. * contrib/mm/m.tmac: Stop emitting debugging diagnostic using undefined

[groff] 34/35: [mm]: Fix warning on .COVER with no .TL.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 59d1fd7a5e284e0b61827fd9d1c3f34c6986745c Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Sat Jul 17 09:55:08 2021 +1000 [mm]: Fix warning on .COVER with no .TL. * contrib/mm/mm/ms.cov (cov@print-title): Enforce

[groff] 33/35: [mm]: Fix another cover sheet nit.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 981df0e96de433fe867e5fbaa0d745d39ac6e8a4 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Sat Jul 17 09:47:21 2021 +1000 [mm]: Fix another cover sheet nit. * contrib/mm/mm/ms.cov (COVEND): Fix thinko; test for existence

[groff] 31/35: [mm]: Stop installing empty macro files.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 62a5f6b87ccc69ba5c6df32b087f58eaa131d55f Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Sat Jul 17 08:30:17 2021 +1000 [mm]: Stop installing empty macro files. * contrib/mm/mm.am: Delete variable `MMLOCALE`.

[groff] 29/35: [mm]: Add regression test for Savannah #60915.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit da64886e77f0cb6ab50d305e7b375a7a9d7678a2 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Sat Jul 17 07:39:08 2021 +1000 [mm]: Add regression test for Savannah #60915. Warning: test fails at this commit. ---

[groff] 30/35: [mm]: Fix Savannah #60915.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 706a904534e0aefd66c8a0ae15896e946cc4d773 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Sat Jul 17 07:10:52 2021 +1000 [mm]: Fix Savannah #60915. * mm/ms.cov (cov@print-firm): Do nothing if the `cov*firm` string is not

[groff] 28/35: contrib/mm/ChangeLog: Fix bogus date (copy+paste).

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 69a3246b43e02a2b799bc893f810f829ae312f8e Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Sat Jul 17 07:08:39 2021 +1000 contrib/mm/ChangeLog: Fix bogus date (copy+paste). --- contrib/mm/ChangeLog | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1

[groff] 26/35: doc/groff.texi: Fix more DESC/font content nits.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 6d64a99a2d3011ccfe596863d8e6b43d7f5aff29 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Sat Jul 17 03:16:15 2021 +1000 doc/groff.texi: Fix more DESC/font content nits. * Replace phrase "backwards compatibility" with

[groff] 27/35: groff_font(5): Sync with our Texinfo manual.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit a1366f798ded827efd8c6dc0692147d7a0acb55b Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Sat Jul 17 06:58:31 2021 +1000 groff_font(5): Sync with our Texinfo manual. --- man/groff_font.5.man | 541

[groff] 24/35: doc/groff.texi: Fix DESC/font content nits.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 52a296a5b1cb499df17e7a38764e237bbfac1875 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Sat Jul 17 00:49:05 2021 +1000 doc/groff.texi: Fix DESC/font content nits. * doc/groff.texi (DESC File Format): -

[groff] 01/35: groff_font(5): Fix style nit.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 061560fb07d4ddea60f82797b727cdd3ff9140f6 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Tue Jul 13 17:09:46 2021 +1000 groff_font(5): Fix style nit. * man/groff_font.5.man: Fix straggling case of title case in a section

[groff] 22/35: doc/groff.texi: Rename "Font File Format" node.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 40342d850401faf8226f736dcd50b81d73bfd18e Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Fri Jul 16 05:53:02 2021 +1000 doc/groff.texi: Rename "Font File Format" node. Rename node (and subsection title) to "Font

[groff] 02/35: [man pages]: Update full-service package intros.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit badf16a7b64ffa99eaa90cdf72434bb8b530a8ef Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Tue Jul 13 21:04:24 2021 +1000 [man pages]: Update full-service package intros. * contrib/mm/groff_mm.7.man (Description): -

[groff] 20/35: groff_out(5): Revise "See also" section.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 3f8e3d4f35d3e9556209aa9482ab4aec49f90b02 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Thu Jul 15 06:35:48 2021 +1000 groff_out(5): Revise "See also" section. * Remove a redundant bibliographic paragraph. * Recast

[groff] 17/35: groff_mm(7): Generalize claims about mm.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 739f84abb8d30f9033f5a5affb054059b6edab53 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Thu Jul 15 04:57:53 2021 +1000 groff_mm(7): Generalize claims about mm. In a couple of cases the compatibility wrapper prefix was

[groff] 15/35: groff_mm(7): Promote subsection headings.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit b5c89fca8d9a53bce5cdfe11b2b2df23d1774568 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Thu Jul 15 04:28:43 2021 +1000 groff_mm(7): Promote subsection headings. * contrib/mm/groff_mm.7.man: Promote and rename some

[groff] 08/35: [man pages]: Update paper size discussion.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit c287f385ffaa8ad1fcb5695e9a1612f525a8afd7 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Wed Jul 14 23:16:21 2021 +1000 [man pages]: Update paper size discussion. * man/groff_font.5.man (Description/DESC file format)

[groff] 06/35: [mm]: Update `MT` macro documentation.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 7f6aef27fcd5bf0bdca5e3c2f7025d584dd9b5f8 Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Wed Jul 14 13:21:26 2021 +1000 [mm]: Update `MT` macro documentation. * contrib/mm/NOTES: Explain `cov*mt-{type,addresse} strings

[groff] 04/35: NEWS: Clarify item.

gbranden pushed a commit to branch master in repository groff. commit 36d116f94aa2150bd9b6512fb7f2440d7625ccaa Author: G. Branden Robinson AuthorDate: Wed Jul 14 12:42:32 2021 +1000 NEWS: Clarify item. The subscripting strings also work outside of paragraphs (for instance, you

Bugs submitted for improving documentation of fonts provided; pdfmark/pdfroff(1) documentation; and integrating install-font.sh

On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 14:48:03 -0400, "G. Branden Robinson" wrote: > Kurt, could you file some Savannah bugs about this and the previous > issue you raised, about font repertoires? My to-do list grows faster > than I can shrink it, but I do burn items off occasionally. * bug #60929: Improve

[bug #60930] Integrate Peter Schaffter's font installer script into groff

URL: Summary: Integrate Peter Schaffter's font installer script into groff Project: GNU troff Submitted by: tkurtbond Submitted on: Sat 17 Jul 2021 12:14:11 AM UTC Category:

[bug #60929] Improve documentation of which fonts groff provides by default

URL: Summary: Improve documentation of which fonts groff provides by default Project: GNU troff Submitted by: tkurtbond Submitted on: Sat 17 Jul 2021 12:00:31 AM UTC Category: None

[bug #60927] improve pdfmark documentation, including pdfroff(1)

URL: Summary: improve pdfmark documentation, including pdfroff(1) Project: GNU troff Submitted by: tkurtbond Submitted on: Fri 16 Jul 2021 11:39:22 PM UTC Category: None

[bug #60926] [mm] use of AT with ms.cov provokes warnings

URL: Summary: [mm] use of AT with ms.cov provokes warnings Project: GNU troff Submitted by: gbranden Submitted on: Fri 16 Jul 2021 11:00:00 PM UTC Category: Macro - mm

[bug #60397] [mm] define string "RE" before it is used as the version

Update of bug #60397 (project groff): Status: Confirmed => In Progress Assigned to:None => gbranden ___ Follow-up Comment #3: [comment #2 comment

[bug #60915] [mm] aligns date wrong if ms cover sheet used with no firm defined

Update of bug #60915 (project groff): Severity: 2 - Minor => 3 - Normal ___ Reply to this item at: ___

Re: Macros for printing envelopes?

Thanks, Peter! My printer, a Brother HL-5240, takes input from the manual tray and like you I insert the envelope and then print. Typically, I feed the envelope in with the short side at the return address in first. To be honest, I'm not entirely sure if that is portrait or landscape

Re: Macros for printing envelopes?

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021, James K. Lowden wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:44:04 -0400 > Peter Schaffter wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > As I see it, with groff I can easily create files for addresses I > > > use often and should be able to code a script that accepts

[bug #60700] [mm] lack of real "locale" and "se_locale" files provokes warning

Update of bug #60700 (project groff): Severity:1 - Wish => 2 - Minor Item Group: New feature => Warning/Suspicious behaviour Status:None => In Progress Assigned

Re: troff Memorandum Macros documentation derived from the paper "MM - Memorandum Macros"

That sounds like a very useful document! I've added a reminder to my calendar to remind me to remind you. :) On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 5:14 PM Damian McGuckin wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jul 2021, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > > > I think this is useful since it provides a more "user guide" approach to > >

[bug #60915] [mm] aligns date wrong if ms cover sheet used with no firm defined

Update of bug #60915 (project groff): Summary: [mm] throws warning if cover sheet used with no firm defined => [mm] aligns date wrong if ms cover sheet used with no firm defined ___ Reply to this item at:

[bug #60915] [mm] throws warning if cover sheet used with no firm defined

Update of bug #60915 (project groff): Item Group: Warning/Suspicious behaviour => Incorrect behaviour ___ Follow-up Comment #1: This bug also causes the date to be centered instead of left-aligned. This is incorrect,

Re: troff Memorandum Macros documentation derived from the paper "MM - Memorandum Macros"

On Fri, 16 Jul 2021, T. Kurt Bond wrote: I think this is useful since it provides a more "user guide" approach to learning MM; groff_mm(7), while an admirable and complete reference is not easy to learn MM from, in my opinion. Once I finish with the current crop of work on my plate, I will

Re: Macros for printing envelopes?

On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 12:44:04 -0400 Peter Schaffter wrote: > On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > As I see it, with groff I can easily create files for addresses I > > use often and should be able to code a script that accepts those > > one-off addresses. > > I use this strategy with

Re: pdfroff and tables of contents

On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 04:48:03 +1000 "G. Branden Robinson" wrote: > XN is not a part of any _ms_ implementation I'm aware of, not even > groff's. It does not appear in 4.2BSD ms or Version 10 Research Unix, > either. > > In the groff system, XN is defined in spdf.tmac Why not just fold

RE: Gremlin Format grn

Ingo Schwarze writes: > > And yes, i did use that, together with a daisy wheel printer, to > produce graphics output in 1982. The "." character on the daisy > wheel wore off rather quickly. That's why they made special daisy wheels with a metal "." rather than plastic like all the other

Re: Gremlin Format grn

Hi Robert, Robert Goulding wrote on Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 09:56:09AM -0600: > I once managed to compile and run the source code to gremlin, the graphic > frontend for producing grn files. But it was quite primitive, and kind of > useless, so I didn't keep it. That remark just made me put up some

Re: Macros for printing envelopes?

Nate -- On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, Nate Bargmann wrote: > As I see it, with groff I can easily create files for addresses I > use often and should be able to code a script that accepts those > one-off addresses. I use this strategy with the mom macros. Here's the .mom template file: --envelope

Re: Gremlin Format grn

I once managed to compile and run the source code to gremlin, the graphic frontend for producing grn files. But it was quite primitive, and kind of useless, so I didn't keep it. Robert Goulding Sent from my Google Pixel 4 On Fri, Jul 16, 2021, 9:53 AM Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi Wim, > > Wim

Re: Gremlin Format grn

Hi Wim, Wim Stockman wrote on Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 10:48:15PM +0200: > Hi , I was looking into the groff doc dir and found this old file format. > the Gremlin file format for graphics. > But even on google I cannot find a lot of information about it. > Does someone have some info on it ,some

Re: Question about ?roff on Reddit

When I followed the first reddit link a few days ago for the first time, I read a few contributions and thought that it could be a challenge to reconcile the discrepancy between the internalized knowledge about things related to the "black art" (typesetting, that is) generally prevalent in this

Re: Question about ?roff on Reddit

Den 2021-07-16 kl. 03:50 skrev Nate Bargmann: > I learned there is a Groff Reddit as well: > > https://www.reddit.com/r/groff/ > > It seems to have quite a bit of activity which is fantastic. I was just about to write this. I am relatively active on /r/groff (as user quote-only-eee) and it