Re: [PATCH]: Set .lt to \n[.l] in papersize.tmac?

2024-01-10 Thread Robert Thorsby
On 11/1/24 01:28, Alexis wrote: Can you be more specific about how the proposed change renders your documents and tooling unworkable? I'm genuinely curious. Providing a minimal working example would be quite helpful. Maybe you'd also like to share your understanding as to "why such 'fault' occur

Re: [PATCH]: Set .lt to \n[.l] in papersize.tmac?

2024-01-10 Thread Oliver Corff
Hi Alexis, you are always free to rename a copy of the macro sources and modify it to your heart's content --- for your personal use. Insofar, the source invites for editing, and that is definitely welcome. If, for your own convenience only, you modify the groff macro source in your local syste

Re: [PATCH]: Set .lt to \n[.l] in papersize.tmac?

2024-01-10 Thread G. Branden Robinson
I'm not Robert, but... At 2024-01-10T15:28:01+0100, Alexis wrote: > But neither seem to provide an explanation as to why .lt defaults to > 6.5i and should be kept that way. It's for the same reason that the line length for everything except titles defaults to 6.5i--that value works fine for portr

Re: [PATCH]: Set .lt to \n[.l] in papersize.tmac?

2024-01-10 Thread Alexis
Hi Oliver, thank you for the suggesting to put my proposed modifications in a local macro and source that in my documents. What are (technical) reasons against the change that you can think of? So if the "transparent source is not an invitation to edit", as you say, is it only shared to serve as

Re: [PATCH]: Set .lt to \n[.l] in papersize.tmac?

2024-01-10 Thread Alexis
Hello Robert Thorsby, thank you for taking the time to read and reply to my email. Can you be more specific about how the proposed change renders your documents and tooling unworkable? I'm genuinely curious. Providing a minimal working example would be quite helpful. Maybe you'd also like to sha

Re: [PATCH]: Set .lt to \n[.l] in papersize.tmac?

2024-01-08 Thread Robert Thorsby
On 9/1/24 16:10, Dave Kemper wrote: On 1/8/24, Robert Thorsby wrote: My apologies to the list for the intemperance of my language, but this has to stop. "This" being novices posting suggestions without understanding every nook and cranny of groff? I couldn't disagree more. If an idea has pr

Re: [PATCH]: Set .lt to \n[.l] in papersize.tmac?

2024-01-08 Thread Dave Kemper
On 1/8/24, Robert Thorsby wrote: > I realize that man pages and info documents are not always the easiest > material to read but, for $DIETY's sake, the info page even has a pretty > little line-drawing image that shows the relationships between the > various components that go into the sizing of

Re: [PATCH]: Set .lt to \n[.l] in papersize.tmac?

2024-01-08 Thread Oliver Corff via
Hi Alexis, I admit that the source files of the whole groff system have a structure that in theory allows for apparently easy modifications, but this is not what they are meant to be. The transparent source code is not an invitation to edit. Your modifications, in themselves, are plausible, but

Re: [PATCH]: Set .lt to \n[.l] in papersize.tmac?

2024-01-08 Thread Robert Thorsby
On 9/1/24 01:19, Alexis wrote: I noticed that the default length of title lines (\n[.lt]) of 6.5i works well for letter sized documents but looks off for other orientations and paper sizes as the title left-part aligns with the page offset, but the title right-part does not align with the right t

[PATCH]: Set .lt to \n[.l] in papersize.tmac?

2024-01-08 Thread Alexis
Hi all, I noticed that the default length of title lines (\n[.lt]) of 6.5i works well for letter sized documents but looks off for other orientations and paper sizes as the title left-part aligns with the page offset, but the title right-part does not align with the right text margin. Hopefully t