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[Groff] Getting a background color

2005-10-22 Thread Clarke Echols
Thanks to all who responded to my question about building a presentation using groff instead of PowerPoint. The ideas were very good, and I may still pursue them. As for now, I was looking for a way to do what I needed to do using groff, going to PS or PDF. I discovered a way to create a

Re: [Groff] Getting a background color

2005-10-22 Thread Miklos Somogyi
On 22/10/2005, at 4:21 PM, Clarke Echols wrote: Thanks to all who responded to my question about building a presentation using groff instead of PowerPoint. The ideas were very good, and I may still pursue them. As for now, I was looking for a way to do what I needed to do using groff, going

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-22 Thread Werner LEMBERG
. Documentation of GNU projects should be in texinfo format. Err, there are lots of so-called GNU projects that aren't documented in texinfo. This is true but very unfortunate IMHO. It isn't very difficult to write a texinfo file, and there are many benefits to do that. Werner

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-22 Thread Werner LEMBERG
This is true but very unfortunate IMHO. It isn't very difficult to write a texinfo file, and there are many benefits to do that. However, I have always regretted, even resented, GNU's transition from man to info for basic reference. I *fully* agree. It seems that you've got the wrong

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-22 Thread Ted Harding
On 22-Oct-05 Werner LEMBERG wrote: This is true but very unfortunate IMHO. It isn't very difficult to write a texinfo file, and there are many benefits to do that. However, I have always regretted, even resented, GNU's transition from man to info for basic reference. I *fully* agree.

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-22 Thread Joerg van den Hoff
(Ted Harding) wrote: On 22-Oct-05 Werner LEMBERG wrote: . Documentation of GNU projects should be in texinfo format. Err, there are lots of so-called GNU projects that aren't documented in texinfo. This is true but very unfortunate IMHO. It isn't very difficult to write a texinfo file,

[Groff] Re: Introduction

2005-10-22 Thread D. E. Evans
I won't give up on groff.texinfo. This consequently means that we need a groff2texinfo converter (or groff2info to get the more important info files) in case the source files are in groff format. Personally, I *really* like the indexing features of `info' which are quite

[Groff] Re: Introduction

2005-10-22 Thread D. E. Evans
I don't -- and won't -- use EMACS: I can't stand it! I do, and want to, use vim. I like, and want to have, good man pages which list all the essentials of the behaviour of commands. I rarely want to get into the labyrinth of a texinfo document (though I'm pleased it's there I need

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-22 Thread Larry Kollar
Ted Harding wrote: This is true but very unfortunate IMHO. It isn't very difficult to write a texinfo file, and there are many benefits to do that. I would like to dissent (partially) from this. Me too. However, I have always regretted, even resented, GNU's transition from man to info

Re: [Groff] XML and groff as frontend

2005-10-22 Thread Larry Kollar
Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: And people who tell me that I should use a graphical front-end for XML mark-up are equally clueless. It's not faster at all to move my hand towards the mouse, find the menu, and choose one of 200 DocBook elements just to put a word in constant-width font (as it turns

Re: [Groff] XML and groff as frontend

2005-10-22 Thread Clarke Echols
How about using vi/vim non-interactively inside a shell script (redirect keyboard input to vi/vim from a file), then in the vi/vim commands file, use the editor's ability to pipe the buffer through an external command (utility) such as sed or awk? I used vi and sed that way to overhaul the

Re: [Groff] XML and groff as frontend

2005-10-22 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 03:47:19PM -0400, Larry Kollar wrote: I use structured FrameMaker at work to write documentation, and one of the easier ways I've found to get text into it is to paste it into Vim then pipe lines through scripts that wrap blocks of text in tags (lists, sections, and so

Re: [Groff] Introduction

2005-10-22 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 02:40:10PM +0100, Ted Harding wrote: Basically the repertoire of keystrokes, which seem to resemble EMACS ones; OK if you remember them, which I don't (apart from SPACE and BS). However, to be fair, it does seem that 'info' has become more transparent over the last year

Re: [Groff] XML and groff as frontend

2005-10-22 Thread Ted Harding
On 22-Oct-05 Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: [...] That's also a nice example of how painful is writing in XML. You use a totally different tool (Vim) to help another tool that's supposedly made to help you with XML (FrameMaker). Also, sections and lists are the least of my issues with XML.