Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I doubt whether this is an acceptable solution.
Hmm. You're right.
Indeed. The best so far is Gunnar's solution to emulate your
suggested percent keyletter extension.
I think I just came up with something better, a way to compute the
column widths that
On 08-Feb-07 Michael(tm) Smith wrote:
Tadziu Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2007-02-08 12:19 +0100:
Nevertheless, does anybody here remember the discussion about
ATT-tbl's expand column feature on this list some months
back?
I don't remember reading that one. Is it something that solves
this
Ted Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
A key letter may be followed by the letter X to indicate an
expanded column. If the modifier is used, the width of the
corresponding column will be increased to use the remainder of the
line length after the widths of the other columns have been
Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2007-02-06 12:35 +0100:
I still think that tables with T{...T} don't work well within man
pages.
I see the specific problem in the example man page you attached,
and I've also seen the especially bad results produced when tables
have more than two columns. So
Eric S. Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2007-02-07 11:43 -0500:
I wrote the documentation recently :-). From groff_man in CVS:
.TQThe TQ macro sets up header continuation for a .TP macro. With
it, you can stack up any number of labels (such as in a glos‐
Michael(tm) Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What if I just have the stylesheet embed the macro definition in
the output of each page?
That would work.
Well, then I'd really like to have some general solution
(workaround) that would cause the cell widths in tables with any
arbitary number of
More generally, I disagree with Werner's position that TP/TQ is
preferable to tables with T{ T} in them.
T{ T} as implemented currently just sucks. Please have a look at this
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/groff/2006-09/msg00022.html
for some nasty details.
I'm going to change
Well, then I'd really like to have some general solution
(workaround) that would cause the cell widths in tables with any
arbitary number of columns to set to something more reasonable
than what tbl(1) currently does.
That change needs to be made in tbl itself. Which is, I think,
where
In this particular case (this is, simple tables which can be
sufficiently emulated with TP/TQ), I favor optical appearance over
logical structure.
Shouldn't we be looking for a way to fix TBL, rather than kludging
around the problem?
TP/TQ for the example I've given is *fully*
Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
looking again at groff_mm.man, I see that using T{...T} in tables
gives ugly results. I think that this is a limitation of tbl which
can't be worked around: For text blocks, you can't say `use the
remaining line width' because they are processed earlier than
Yes, I could go back, find tables with T} in them, and revert them
to list markup and similar kluges. But that would just bring us
trouble from another direction. Many of the weird constructs I
replaced with tables (I'm thinking, for example, of the T2 macro in
groff_mm.man) will
Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What's the problem with .TQ? Most of the data in groff_mm.man can be
represented with this macro in a satisfying way, I believe.
Since you say so, I assume it's possible. But I have not figured out
how yet.
Instead, let's steal a trick from the HTML book
What's the problem with .TQ? Most of the data in groff_mm.man can
be represented with this macro in a satisfying way, I believe.
Since you say so, I assume it's possible. But I have not figured
out how yet.
Have a looked at the attached file.
OK. But first, even if we don't find a way
Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What's the problem with .TQ? Most of the data in groff_mm.man can
be represented with this macro in a satisfying way, I believe.
Since you say so, I assume it's possible. But I have not figured
out how yet.
Have a looked at the attached file.
I
Eric S. Raymond wrote:
The only problem with using w is that the number that needs to go to
go next to it is brittle -- it may break if the table indent
changes, or if the the point size changes, or if the margins change.
I fully agree. It can make such man pages ugly to read.
This I
Eric,
looking again at groff_mm.man, I see that using T{...T} in tables
gives ugly results. I think that this is a limitation of tbl which
can't be worked around: For text blocks, you can't say `use the
remaining line width' because they are processed earlier than the rest
of the table.
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