on which the keep was first encountered, and not the page
number on which it is printed. It is possible to work round
things like this, but it can be subtle!
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On 29-Mar-05 Ted Harding wrote:
On 29-Mar-05 Otavio Exel wrote:
[...]
I'm using -me and groff 1.17.2 (debian stable);
I'll make a suggestion. This uses the 'ms' macros (which
I'm more familiar with than 'me' so I know what I'm doing!).
[...]
Now that I've had a detailed look at the 'me
is better, as well
as being more flexible (e.g. you can use it to cut out just
the part of the page you want as a separate image file).
Hoping this helps,
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The disadva
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/sh - /bin/someshell, but I think that
the possible differences of behaviour need to be borne in mind.
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between .EQ and .EN in your .../tmac/eqnrc
file.
Example (with the above already defined):
.EQ I
Sint sub S f(x) ~ dS
.EN
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On 16-Oct-05 Daniel de Kok wrote:
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The only thing I specially did (and indeed have done ever since),
since the machine was so weak, was to buy a PostScript printer.
With that, the PostScript output from groff went straight to the
printer and did
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is more on the lines of
You, you, and you! Line up and do that job.
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Well, if you're using vim ...
I do.
First enter the following (in command mode) to define abbreviations:
:ab c command
[cut a lot of good advice]
You mean something like
iabbrev
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I will try to invent one, but probably others will beat me
to it!
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the impact should be different, you can
re-calculate the radii for yourself according to a different rule.
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, but feel wary!
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on the technicalities
behind wikis, so eom of that material was over my head.
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is high praise indeed for a net.sources widget. Hence, this
shar archive contains the author's original code and
documentation, untouched. Share and enjoy.
Could be interesting!
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but in the right area.
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On 04-Nov-05 Bob Diertens wrote:
On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 12:01:12AM -, Ted Harding wrote:
Hi Folks,
I'd welcome views and contributions about the following.
It concerns making a booklet out of a PS document.
1. Background:
If you have (say) a 16-page PS document, you can run
to a good Linux
list (if you are not already on one), and discuss your problem
in detail there.
Good luck!
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(so-called blue book) from Adobe.
Well worth having by you, for little things like this.
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of
bcolor
are replaced by
red
or
yellow
*including* the quotation marks!
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'; the 'awk' step removes them.
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the trouble to work out how to do it
you develop a commitment.
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It seems, looking at the headers of recent mails to
the list, that postings to the groff list are being
delayed at lists.gnu.org by 6-12 hours, typically
over 9 hours.
Is this (as I hope) a temporary phenomenon?
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With Miklos's
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of the over
glyph is (in most cases) not relevant.
Without this, italic c circumflex, say, might not look too bad;
but italic l circumflex would look terrible.
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On 13-Mar-06 Robert Marks wrote:
Ted suggests adding the font to /font/devps/DESC (see below).
What is the purpose of this?
I haven't done it and things seem to work, but perhaps I'm missing
something.
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Ted --
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006, Ted Harding wrote:
I harbour fears that this proposed move towards PDF as the
standard indicates an impending domination of the capable
by the challenged.
Is domination of the capable by the challenged your own phrase
.
Well, with 52 votes just now [3%], groff now weighs in at No 3
(after OpenOffice with 878 [53%] and TeX with 507 [31%]), if one
excludes Other Commercial.
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what's going
on at a particular place you can outline it with the mouse and
zoom it up.
Well, it's good that the problem got solved!
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Try a ggogle search using
groff family
... there are more about than one might think!
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interesting things illustrated
in the PDFs on the site -- see e.g.
http://heirloom.sourceforge.net/doctools/troffdemo.pdf
http://heirloom.sourceforge.net/doctools/fonts.pdf
Thanks.
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[...]
Once again, I suspect that all this kind of thing could be
helped by pre-output access to the finally formatted output
line (since the mechanism I describe above amounts to this,
but riding a mule to climb
On 27-Jun-06 Peter Schaffter wrote:
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FWIW, back in the Museum, even though galleys were set from
what amounted to source files, the workstations had a
continuously updating status line
snip
I'm wondering if this is the kind of pre-output access
polygons.
The current values of the relevant parameters can be accessed
in PS by 'currentlinejoin' and 'currentlinecap' etc.
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carries the burden of groff's role in formatting
man-pages, i.e. supporting Unix-style documentation, which
masks its true merits as a typesetting system.
I feel this should be changed!
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On 13-Jul-06 Werner LEMBERG wrote:
[about the contents of www.gnu.org]
I feel this should be changed!
Please go forth and submit changes to the website maintainers!
Werner
OK, will do!
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.nr LL \n[.l]
(I have never thought twice about this -- at least not for
a very long time -- since I got into the habit of it with
sqtroff back in 1984).
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On 01-Aug-06 Keith MARSHALL wrote:
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I recommend as a definitive example the instructions contained in
British Standard 6008 (BS 6008:1980, ISO 3103:1980): Method for
Preparation of a liquor of tea ... , of which a PDF copy can be
found at
http://ftp.ee.surrey.ac.uk
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it from these file?
If the latter, what sort of files are these?
If you can clarify your question, someone may be able to help you!
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position, to within ocular resolution!
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1. I'm not aware of a simple mechanism in groff to
do this -- e.g. fill all lines whose minimum
formatted length is within X of line-length.
ATT troff has a \n(.x register which holds the remaining
horizontal
OOPS!!! Ignore my response below!
1. In groff. \n[.x] is the major version number of groff
2. \[.rl] of course does not exist so would get value 0
if invoked.
Ted.
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1. I'm not aware
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-- of X -- at which it happens!)
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on this work.
(I don't think this consideration can apply to tbl, however,
since there's nothing in the way of preliminary work you can
do which would apply to a subsequent .TS ... .TE).
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not be what you want!
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of there is a general approach at all,
within the world of groff/PostScript.
Comments?
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it as a discussion point, aiming at the question Would it be
useful to have extensions of this kind to the groff requests?
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straightforward enough that it could be achieved readily
using groff, provided one has all the deatils needed to define
the methods.
Hoping this helps, as a first response!
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... Personally, I'd be tempted to turn
hyphenation off at least some of the time!
Best wishes, and Heppy Festive Season to all!
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So I see from the groff project page, which I should have checked
first. Copying to Ted Harding and the groff list, which I just
subscribed to.
I want to drastically simplify the markup used in several pieces of
groff documentation, eliminating a lot of the hairy custom macros they
presently
manpages. I believe
that's a tribute to Werner and how he's set them up more, though,
rather than an endorsement of TeXinfo itself.
I agree exactly with what Peter says!
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, then you can of course copy the values
of \n[TW] to new registers, e.g.
.nr TW.1 \n[TW]
.nr TW.2 \n[TW]
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of some PDF-text programs,
may well be close to the mark!
My mouse (with its tail plugged into X Windows on Linux)
has very little brain, yet it has worked really well.
Hmmm.
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rapidly over the last few days ...
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On 27-Jan-07 Werner LEMBERG wrote:
The problem we are seeing is that after all the parts have been
removed, there is still a non-empty signature text piece left ... so
the message is not discarded. BUT ... that signature is added by
mailman itself!
I've now removed the mailing list
analysis. will do the trick!
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as such when installing into groff.
And, of course, the other file you'll need is cheq.afm!
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changes. Granted, this is tedious and error-prone,
but it's the only kind of way I can think of to use
colours in an equation solely for the quantitative symbols.
Other may have better ideas!
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On 07-Feb-07 Eric S. Raymond wrote:
This is for Ted Harding and others who have felt they weren't being
sufficiently informed about the changes I've been making. Comments
and suggestions welcomed.
Thanks! Comment regarding EQN following:
1. EQN
The new MathML back end to eqn continues
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I.e., can one set a global variable2 in MathML? Where, in this
case, it would have the value of the offset at the mark point,
and be called on for setting offsets at subsequent lineups?
Alas, the answer is no.
The MathML
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have been produced.
Was your result different, and, if so, what is supposed to
be wrong with it?
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-definition of page length) to get the layout
you want.
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On 19-Feb-07 Ted Harding wrote:
While I'm at it, I've lately been playing with a work-round
for the often awkward feature of the .MC and .1C macros
in the ms macros, that when you break out of MC back to 1C
you also get a page-break.
While the me macros allow you to go from 2 columns back
use for $$ as money than for $$ in eqn.
It's different with ££ of course ... ).
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this, then similarly
construct your own, and make this your page 1 (as above).
Can you clarify what your problem really is?
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sure that it's the second argument and the first is one
of the three alignment specifiers!
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is a contributor to this list, I'm sure he will
be happy to tell us where these resources can now be found (if
thay can still be found).
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look at OpenOffice:
http://www.openoffice.org/
Hoping this helps!
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