[gmx-users] can you Provide cardiolipin parameter file?

2014-05-09 Thread gejingming
dear sir,
 I want to do Molecular Dynamics Simulations use gro​macs,but I can not find 
cardiolipins(CL) parameters. can you Provide cardiolipin pdb file and 
parameter(*itp) file?Which is better united atom force field. thank you very 
much!
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Re: [gmx-users] 回复: can you Provide cardiolipin parameter file?

2014-05-09 Thread massimo sandal
Shouting, especially after 10 minutes from your first post, will not make
people willing to help you. Please be patient and polite.
On 9 May 2014 09:14, gejingming 531015...@qq.com wrote:

 I can not find something I want to ! can you help me?




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  I want to do Molecular Dynamics Simulations use gro​macs,but I can not
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[gmx-users] 回复: can you Provide cardiolipin parameter file?

2014-05-09 Thread gejingming
thanks a lot for your reply!


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dear sir,
 I want to do Molecular Dynamics Simulations use gro​macs,but I can not find 
cardiolipins(CL) parameters. can you Provide cardiolipin pdb file and 
parameter(*itp) file?Which is better united atom force field. thank you very 
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[gmx-users] 回复: 回复: can you Provide cardiolipin parameter file?

2014-05-09 Thread gejingming
Cardiolipin (CL), the signature phospholipid of a
mitochondrion,has broad  mitochondrial activities.

The molecular formula:C81H138O17P2.
thanks a lot!








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Which cardiolipin?

Cheers,

Tsjerk
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Re: [gmx-users] 回复: 回复: can you Provide cardiolipin parameter file?

2014-05-09 Thread Piggot T.
Hi,

Here is a CG one:

http://lipidbook.bioch.ox.ac.uk/package/show/id/31.html

and here is an atomistic one:

http://lipidbook.bioch.ox.ac.uk/package/show/id/61.html

The atomistic one was used in a bacterial membrane, so you will likely have to 
change the tails to make an appropriate mitochondrial lipid. There are likely 
to be parameters out there for other force fields (for example, I have seen 
work using both Berger and CHARMM based force fields simulating cardiolipin) so 
a good search might well find these too.

Cheers

Tom

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University of Southampton, UK.



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Cardiolipin (CL), the signature phospholipid of a
mitochondrion,has broad  mitochondrial activities.

The molecular formula:C81H138O17P2.
thanks a lot!








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Which cardiolipin?

Cheers,

Tsjerk
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[gmx-users] protein simulation

2014-05-09 Thread elham tazikeh
Dear Justin
thanks for your quick reply
i,mgoing to simulate zinc ion on Amyloid beta peptide at 300k...and i
choose 1ZE9 as pdb my choice is correct or i have to pdb of protein without
cation for my work or can i delete zinc ion effect in that pdb? for force
field choosing ,i think Opls is appropriate for this simulation...isn,t it?
best wishes
elham
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[gmx-users] Error: dangling bond at atleast one of terminals

2014-05-09 Thread Balasubramanian Suriyanarayanan
Dear users,

 I am running membrane protein simulation in lipid environment. when I
processed through pdb2gmx
*pdb2gmx -f 3B5D.pdb -o 3B5D_processed.gro -ignh -ter -water spc*

*I get the following out put and error. *

*please n*
*help*

Select the Force Field:
From '/opt/bio/gromacs/share/gromacs/top':
 1: AMBER03 force field (Duan et al., J. Comp. Chem. 24, 1999-2012, 2003)
 2: AMBER94 force field (Cornell et al., JACS 117, 5179-5197, 1995)
 3: AMBER96 force field (Kollman et al., Acc. Chem. Res. 29, 461-469, 1996)
 4: AMBER99 force field (Wang et al., J. Comp. Chem. 21, 1049-1074, 2000)
 5: AMBER99SB force field (Hornak et al., Proteins 65, 712-725, 2006)
 6: AMBER99SB-ILDN force field (Lindorff-Larsen et al., Proteins 78,
1950-58, 2010)
 7: AMBERGS force field (Garcia  Sanbonmatsu, PNAS 99, 2782-2787, 2002)
 8: CHARMM27 all-atom force field (with CMAP) - version 2.0
 9: GROMOS96 43a1 force field
10: GROMOS96 43a2 force field (improved alkane dihedrals)
11: GROMOS96 45a3 force field (Schuler JCC 2001 22 1205)
12: GROMOS96 53a5 force field (JCC 2004 vol 25 pag 1656)
13: GROMOS96 53a6 force field (JCC 2004 vol 25 pag 1656)
14: OPLS-AA/L all-atom force field (2001 aminoacid dihedrals)
15: [DEPRECATED] Encad all-atom force field, using full solvent charges
16: [DEPRECATED] Encad all-atom force field, using scaled-down vacuum
charges
17: [DEPRECATED] Gromacs force field (see manual)
18: [DEPRECATED] Gromacs force field with hydrogens for NMR
13

Using the Gromos53a6 force field in directory gromos53a6.ff

Opening force field file
/opt/bio/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/gromos53a6.ff/aminoacids.r2b
Reading 3B5D.pdb...
WARNING: all CONECT records are ignored
Read 'MULTIDRUG TRANSPORTER EMRE; 5 VIOLOGEN RESISTANCE PROTEIN C, ETHIDIUM
RESISTANCE PROTEIN', 224 atoms
Analyzing pdb file
Splitting PDB chains based on TER records or changing chain id.
WARNING: Chain identifier 'A' is used in two non-sequential blocks.
They will be treated as separate chains unless you reorder your file.
There are 3 chains and 0 blocks of water and 350 residues with 224 atoms

  chain  #res #atoms
  1 'A'   100100
  2 'B'99 99
  3 'A' 1 25

All occupancies are one
Opening force field file
/opt/bio/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/gromos53a6.ff/atomtypes.atp
Atomtype 1
Reading residue database... (gromos53a6)
Opening force field file
/opt/bio/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/gromos53a6.ff/aminoacids.rtp
Using default: not generating all possible dihedrals
Using default: excluding 3 bonded neighbors
Using default: generating 1,4 H--H interactions
Using default: removing impropers on same bond as a proper
Residue 108
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file
/opt/bio/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/gromos53a6.ff/aminoacids.hdb
Opening force field file
/opt/bio/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/gromos53a6.ff/aminoacids.n.tdb
Opening force field file
/opt/bio/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/gromos53a6.ff/aminoacids.c.tdb

Back Off! I just backed up topol.top to ./#topol.top.4#
Processing chain 1 'A' (100 atoms, 100 residues)
There are 0 donors and 0 acceptors
There are 0 hydrogen bonds
Identified residue TYR6 as a starting terminus.
Identified residue SER105 as a ending terminus.
8 out of 8 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
Select start terminus type for TYR-6
 0: NH3+
 1: NH2
 2: None
2
Start terminus TYR-6: None
Select end terminus type for SER-105
 0: COO-
 1: COOH
 2: None
2
End terminus SER-105: None

---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 1035

F*atal error:*
*There is a dangling bond at at least one of the terminal ends. Select a
proper terminal entry.*
*For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the
GROMACS*
*website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors*

regards
-- 
B.Suriyanarayanan
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Re: [gmx-users] Force Field for Bilayer Simulations with Cholesterol and Proteins

2014-05-09 Thread Ollila Samuli
Hi,

I used ffgmx.itp. It contains CB.

BR,
Samuli Ollila


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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Force Field for Bilayer Simulations with Cholesterol 
and Proteins

Thank you for your advice.

Which force field was used? I have downloaded the cholesterol parameters
from Höltje et al, but atomtypes like CB do not exist in the force field I
am using (53a6). Did you change these to other atomtypes as well, or were
you using a force field that included them?

-David


On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Ollila Samuli samuli.oll...@aalto.fiwrote:

 Hi,

 In my understanding the CH2-LP2 attraction is stronger than LP2-LP2
 attraction in the Berger/Höltje combination you described. If you then have
 CH2 groups in cholesterol and LP2 groups in lipids, it might lead to too
 condensed bilayer. I think that the related issue is discussed here:

 http://dx.doi.org/10.1088/0953-8984/18/28/S07

 and here:

 http://dx.doi.org/10.1039/C2CP42738A

 we have changed the CH2 groups in cholesterol to LP2 groups and compared
 the results quite extensively to the NMR measurements.

 BR,
 Samuli Ollila


 
 From: gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se [
 gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se] on behalf of David
 Ackerman [da...@cornell.edu]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 7:39 AM
 To: gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
 Subject: [gmx-users] Force Field for Bilayer Simulations with Cholesterol
   and Proteins

 Hello,

 I have been performing simulations of multi-component bilayers using
 parameters described in the following paper:
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23470157. They use the ffgmx forcefield
 with Berger lipid parameters included. They also use cholesterol from
 Holtje et. al (
 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000527360100270X), which
 was parameterized for the ffgmx force field.

 I noticed that unlike the KALP-15 GROMACS tutorial which suggests deleting
 the default lipid-gromos Berger interactions, the authors kept those
 interactions in the force field. In light of newer force fields, are these
 older force fields wither Berger parameters still acceptable? The
 cholesterol model seems commonly used, so I am unsure how to use
 cholesterol with a newer force field.

 Furthermore, if I were to include proteins in the simulation, would I still
 be able to use the same ffgmx force field with Berger parameters (including
 lipid-gromos interactions)?

 Thank you,
 David
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[gmx-users] 回复: 回复: 回复: can you Provide cardiolipin parameter file?

2014-05-09 Thread gejingming
thank you very much for your reply!


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Hi,

Here is a CG one:

http://lipidbook.bioch.ox.ac.uk/package/show/id/31.html

and here is an atomistic one:

http://lipidbook.bioch.ox.ac.uk/package/show/id/61.html

The atomistic one was used in a bacterial membrane, so you will likely have to 
change the tails to make an appropriate mitochondrial lipid. There are likely 
to be parameters out there for other force fields (for example, I have seen 
work using both Berger and CHARMM based force fields simulating cardiolipin) so 
a good search might well find these too.

Cheers

Tom

--
Dr Thomas Piggot
University of Southampton, UK.



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Subject: [gmx-users] 回复:  回复: can you Provide cardiolipin parameter file?

Cardiolipin (CL), the signature phospholipid of a
mitochondrion,has broad  mitochondrial activities.

The molecular formula:C81H138O17P2.
thanks a lot!








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Which cardiolipin?

Cheers,

Tsjerk
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 thanks a lot for your reply!


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  I want to do Molecular Dynamics Simulations use gro​macs,but I can not
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 very much!
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Re: [gmx-users] Force Field for Bilayer Simulations with Cholesterol and Proteins

2014-05-09 Thread Piggot T.
Hi David,

Firstly I would say, is there any reason why you need to use the 
Berger/Höltje/GROMOS force field combination? There are several other options 
available that I can think of which may be easier/better for you. You could use 
the Slipids (with an AMBER force field for the protein), CHARMM36 for all of 
the components of your system, or if you do want to stick with a united-atom 
force field, you could still use one of the GROMOS force fields ((e.g. 54A7) 
with the GROMOS-CKP lipids and the consistent cholesterol parameters that you 
can download from the manual entry of the automated topology builder. I haven't 
ever simulated cholesterol so I cannot really recommend which may be better 
than others for this molecule, but there will be plenty of literature out there 
to look at regarding this.

Secondly, if you do want to stay with the Berger/Höltje/GROMOS combination, you 
could probably add the missing atomtypes to the GROMOS force field you wish to 
use. I would strongly advise against using the old 'ffgmx' force field, this 
has been shown to behave pretty poorly for proteins. Do be careful in doing 
this addition of atomtypes, as the GROMOS force fields are different from the 
all-atom force fields in as much as the atomtypes have multiple van der Waals 
interaction parameters used for interactions with different atomtypes. Some of 
the GROMOS papers describe this in far more detail.

Just some of my thoughts, hopefully of some use!

Cheers

Tom
--
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University of Southampton, UK.



From: gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se 
[gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se] on behalf of Ollila Samuli 
[samuli.oll...@aalto.fi]
Sent: 09 May 2014 11:42
To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Force Field for Bilayer Simulations with Cholesterol 
and Proteins

Hi,

I used ffgmx.itp. It contains CB.

BR,
Samuli Ollila


From: gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se 
[gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se] on behalf of David Ackerman 
[da...@cornell.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 10:30 PM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Force Field for Bilayer Simulations with Cholesterol 
and Proteins

Thank you for your advice.

Which force field was used? I have downloaded the cholesterol parameters
from Höltje et al, but atomtypes like CB do not exist in the force field I
am using (53a6). Did you change these to other atomtypes as well, or were
you using a force field that included them?

-David


On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Ollila Samuli samuli.oll...@aalto.fiwrote:

 Hi,

 In my understanding the CH2-LP2 attraction is stronger than LP2-LP2
 attraction in the Berger/Höltje combination you described. If you then have
 CH2 groups in cholesterol and LP2 groups in lipids, it might lead to too
 condensed bilayer. I think that the related issue is discussed here:

 http://dx.doi.org/10.1088/0953-8984/18/28/S07

 and here:

 http://dx.doi.org/10.1039/C2CP42738A

 we have changed the CH2 groups in cholesterol to LP2 groups and compared
 the results quite extensively to the NMR measurements.

 BR,
 Samuli Ollila


 
 From: gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se [
 gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se] on behalf of David
 Ackerman [da...@cornell.edu]
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 7:39 AM
 To: gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
 Subject: [gmx-users] Force Field for Bilayer Simulations with Cholesterol
   and Proteins

 Hello,

 I have been performing simulations of multi-component bilayers using
 parameters described in the following paper:
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23470157. They use the ffgmx forcefield
 with Berger lipid parameters included. They also use cholesterol from
 Holtje et. al (
 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000527360100270X), which
 was parameterized for the ffgmx force field.

 I noticed that unlike the KALP-15 GROMACS tutorial which suggests deleting
 the default lipid-gromos Berger interactions, the authors kept those
 interactions in the force field. In light of newer force fields, are these
 older force fields wither Berger parameters still acceptable? The
 cholesterol model seems commonly used, so I am unsure how to use
 cholesterol with a newer force field.

 Furthermore, if I were to include proteins in the simulation, would I still
 be able to use the same ffgmx force field with Berger parameters (including
 lipid-gromos interactions)?

 Thank you,
 David
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Re: [gmx-users] Force Field for Bilayer Simulations with Cholesterol and Proteins

2014-05-09 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2014-05-09 13:47, Piggot T. wrote:

Hi David,

Firstly I would say, is there any reason why you need to use the 
Berger/Höltje/GROMOS force field combination? There are several other options 
available that I can think of which may be easier/better for you. You could use 
the Slipids (with an AMBER force field for the protein), CHARMM36 for all of 
the components of your system, or if you do want to stick with a united-atom 
force field, you could still use one of the GROMOS force fields ((e.g. 54A7) 
with the GROMOS-CKP lipids and the consistent cholesterol parameters that you 
can download from the manual entry of the automated topology builder. I haven't 
ever simulated cholesterol so I cannot really recommend which may be better 
than others for this molecule, but there will be plenty of literature out there 
to look at regarding this.

Secondly, if you do want to stay with the Berger/Höltje/GROMOS combination, you 
could probably add the missing atomtypes to the GROMOS force field you wish to 
use. I would strongly advise against using the old 'ffgmx' force field, this 
has been shown to behave pretty poorly for proteins. Do be careful in doing 
this addition of atomtypes, as the GROMOS force fields are different from the 
all-atom force fields in as much as the atomtypes have multiple van der Waals 
interaction parameters used for interactions with different atomtypes. Some of 
the GROMOS papers describe this in far more detail.

Just some of my thoughts, hopefully of some use!



You could also look here:

http://cmb.bio.uni-goettingen.de/downloads.html


Cheers

Tom
--
Dr Thomas Piggot
University of Southampton, UK.



From: gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se 
[gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se] on behalf of Ollila Samuli 
[samuli.oll...@aalto.fi]
Sent: 09 May 2014 11:42
To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Force Field for Bilayer Simulations with Cholesterol 
and Proteins

Hi,

I used ffgmx.itp. It contains CB.

BR,
Samuli Ollila


From: gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se 
[gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se] on behalf of David Ackerman 
[da...@cornell.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 10:30 PM
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Force Field for Bilayer Simulations with Cholesterol 
and Proteins

Thank you for your advice.

Which force field was used? I have downloaded the cholesterol parameters
from Höltje et al, but atomtypes like CB do not exist in the force field I
am using (53a6). Did you change these to other atomtypes as well, or were
you using a force field that included them?

-David


On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Ollila Samuli samuli.oll...@aalto.fiwrote:


Hi,

In my understanding the CH2-LP2 attraction is stronger than LP2-LP2
attraction in the Berger/Höltje combination you described. If you then have
CH2 groups in cholesterol and LP2 groups in lipids, it might lead to too
condensed bilayer. I think that the related issue is discussed here:

http://dx.doi.org/10.1088/0953-8984/18/28/S07

and here:

http://dx.doi.org/10.1039/C2CP42738A

we have changed the CH2 groups in cholesterol to LP2 groups and compared
the results quite extensively to the NMR measurements.

BR,
Samuli Ollila



From: gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se [
gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se] on behalf of David
Ackerman [da...@cornell.edu]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 7:39 AM
To: gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
Subject: [gmx-users] Force Field for Bilayer Simulations with Cholesterol
   and Proteins

Hello,

I have been performing simulations of multi-component bilayers using
parameters described in the following paper:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23470157. They use the ffgmx forcefield
with Berger lipid parameters included. They also use cholesterol from
Holtje et. al (
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000527360100270X), which
was parameterized for the ffgmx force field.

I noticed that unlike the KALP-15 GROMACS tutorial which suggests deleting
the default lipid-gromos Berger interactions, the authors kept those
interactions in the force field. In light of newer force fields, are these
older force fields wither Berger parameters still acceptable? The
cholesterol model seems commonly used, so I am unsure how to use
cholesterol with a newer force field.

Furthermore, if I were to include proteins in the simulation, would I still
be able to use the same ffgmx force field with Berger parameters (including
lipid-gromos interactions)?

Thank you,
David
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Re: [gmx-users] Error: dangling bond at atleast one of terminals

2014-05-09 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/9/14, 6:25 AM, Balasubramanian Suriyanarayanan wrote:

Dear users,

  I am running membrane protein simulation in lipid environment. when I
processed through pdb2gmx
*pdb2gmx -f 3B5D.pdb -o 3B5D_processed.gro -ignh -ter -water spc*

*I get the following out put and error. *

*please n*
*help*

Select the Force Field:
 From '/opt/bio/gromacs/share/gromacs/top':
  1: AMBER03 force field (Duan et al., J. Comp. Chem. 24, 1999-2012, 2003)
  2: AMBER94 force field (Cornell et al., JACS 117, 5179-5197, 1995)
  3: AMBER96 force field (Kollman et al., Acc. Chem. Res. 29, 461-469, 1996)
  4: AMBER99 force field (Wang et al., J. Comp. Chem. 21, 1049-1074, 2000)
  5: AMBER99SB force field (Hornak et al., Proteins 65, 712-725, 2006)
  6: AMBER99SB-ILDN force field (Lindorff-Larsen et al., Proteins 78,
1950-58, 2010)
  7: AMBERGS force field (Garcia  Sanbonmatsu, PNAS 99, 2782-2787, 2002)
  8: CHARMM27 all-atom force field (with CMAP) - version 2.0
  9: GROMOS96 43a1 force field
10: GROMOS96 43a2 force field (improved alkane dihedrals)
11: GROMOS96 45a3 force field (Schuler JCC 2001 22 1205)
12: GROMOS96 53a5 force field (JCC 2004 vol 25 pag 1656)
13: GROMOS96 53a6 force field (JCC 2004 vol 25 pag 1656)
14: OPLS-AA/L all-atom force field (2001 aminoacid dihedrals)
15: [DEPRECATED] Encad all-atom force field, using full solvent charges
16: [DEPRECATED] Encad all-atom force field, using scaled-down vacuum
charges
17: [DEPRECATED] Gromacs force field (see manual)
18: [DEPRECATED] Gromacs force field with hydrogens for NMR
13

Using the Gromos53a6 force field in directory gromos53a6.ff

Opening force field file
/opt/bio/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/gromos53a6.ff/aminoacids.r2b
Reading 3B5D.pdb...
WARNING: all CONECT records are ignored
Read 'MULTIDRUG TRANSPORTER EMRE; 5 VIOLOGEN RESISTANCE PROTEIN C, ETHIDIUM
RESISTANCE PROTEIN', 224 atoms
Analyzing pdb file
Splitting PDB chains based on TER records or changing chain id.
WARNING: Chain identifier 'A' is used in two non-sequential blocks.
They will be treated as separate chains unless you reorder your file.
There are 3 chains and 0 blocks of water and 350 residues with 224 atoms

   chain  #res #atoms
   1 'A'   100100
   2 'B'99 99
   3 'A' 1 25

All occupancies are one
Opening force field file
/opt/bio/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/gromos53a6.ff/atomtypes.atp
Atomtype 1
Reading residue database... (gromos53a6)
Opening force field file
/opt/bio/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/gromos53a6.ff/aminoacids.rtp
Using default: not generating all possible dihedrals
Using default: excluding 3 bonded neighbors
Using default: generating 1,4 H--H interactions
Using default: removing impropers on same bond as a proper
Residue 108
Sorting it all out...
Opening force field file
/opt/bio/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/gromos53a6.ff/aminoacids.hdb
Opening force field file
/opt/bio/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/gromos53a6.ff/aminoacids.n.tdb
Opening force field file
/opt/bio/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/gromos53a6.ff/aminoacids.c.tdb

Back Off! I just backed up topol.top to ./#topol.top.4#
Processing chain 1 'A' (100 atoms, 100 residues)
There are 0 donors and 0 acceptors
There are 0 hydrogen bonds
Identified residue TYR6 as a starting terminus.
Identified residue SER105 as a ending terminus.
8 out of 8 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
Select start terminus type for TYR-6
  0: NH3+
  1: NH2
  2: None
2
Start terminus TYR-6: None
Select end terminus type for SER-105
  0: COO-
  1: COOH
  2: None
2
End terminus SER-105: None

---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.4
Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 1035

F*atal error:*
*There is a dangling bond at at least one of the terminal ends. Select a
proper terminal entry.*
*For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the
GROMACS*
*website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors*



Choosing None for your termini doesn't make sense.  You will have incomplete 
amide groups.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] force field

2014-05-09 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/9/14, 1:12 AM, elham tazikeh wrote:

  Dear Justin
thanks for your quick reply
i,mgoing to simulate zinc ion on Amyloid beta peptide at 300k...and i
choose 1ZE9 as pdb
my choice is correct or i have to pdb of protein without  cation for my
work or can i delete zinc ion  effect in that pdb?
for force field choosing ,i think Opls is appropriate for this
simulation...isn,t it?


These are all issues you should discuss with an adviser and colleagues.  If you 
have Gromacs-specific questions, post them here, but the purpose of this list is 
not to design your experiments for you.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] energy

2014-05-09 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/9/14, 6:28 AM, mirko busato wrote:

Dear Users,

In my experiment, one petide of troponin protein  and many copies of the same 
type of  monomer, itaconic acid,(negatively charged) are assembled in a virtual 
box.


I would like to understand , if there is a method to calculate the interaction 
energy between the peptide and the monomers.



That's what energygrps are for.

-Justin


I am asking this because I would like to have an energetic value to determine 
the affinity of the itaconic acid monomer against the peptide.

My system is in vacuum and  NA sodium ions weren't added to neutralize the 
system, so my system is charged.

The force field used is CHARMM27  and I performed a minimization energy step  
and an equilibration step.


Could you help me?

Thank you very much,

Mirko



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Re: [gmx-users] energy

2014-05-09 Thread mirko busato
Dear Justin,

Thank you very much for your quick reply,

In my .mdp file I set up energygrps to protein ITA. 
(ITA is the group for the Itaconic acid monomers)

After that I tried to launch g_energy command on .edr file. 

Is it right? 

which energy terms do you suggest me to use for my problem (to understand the 
affinity peptide-monomer)?


Thank you very much,


Mirko


On Friday, May 9, 2014 2:20 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:
 


On 5/9/14, 6:28 AM, mirko busato wrote:
 Dear Users,

 In my experiment, one petide of troponin protein  and many copies of the same 
 type of  monomer, itaconic acid,(negatively charged) are assembled in a 
 virtual box.


 I would like to understand , if there is a method to calculate the 
 interaction energy between the peptide and the monomers.


That's what energygrps are for.

-Justin


 I am asking this because I would like to have an energetic value to determine 
 the affinity of the itaconic acid monomer against the peptide.

 My system is in vacuum and  NA sodium ions weren't added to neutralize the 
 system, so my system is charged.

 The force field used is CHARMM27  and I performed a minimization energy step  
 and an equilibration step.


 Could you help me?

 Thank you very much,

 Mirko


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School of Pharmacy
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University of Maryland, Baltimore
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Re: [gmx-users] Can't make links on GROMACS

2014-05-09 Thread Ooker
I mean that it is a bug because you can't make link after build from the 
source, although it is easy to work around with it.
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[gmx-users] MD simulation at pH 2

2014-05-09 Thread Turgay Cakmak
Hi all,


I have the 8-residue peptide and I want to do Molecular Dynamics
simulations at pH 2 (with explicit solvent).


To do this, I added three Hydrogen atoms to two of the 8-residue peptite
(one Hydrogen to the Glu, two Hydrojen to the Asp). And also I choose the
NH3 for the start terminus and COOH for the end terminus. Finally, I get
the my peptide at pH 2. And than, I plan to follow the usual procedure
(define box, fill the box with water, energy minim, md...)


But, still I am not sure whether this way is correct to get simulation at
pH 2 or not? Because when I look at the XXX.gro file (and also topol.top)
after the pdb2gmx –f XXX.pdb, I couldn’t see the new-added hydrogens.



If you could help me, I would be very happy.


with my best regards,

Turgay
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Re: [gmx-users] MD simulation at pH 2

2014-05-09 Thread Dr. Vitaly Chaban
Nice to know that acidic pH simulations are that easy.

Why do you conclude that you achieved pH 2?

Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban


On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Turgay Cakmak turgaycakma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,


 I have the 8-residue peptide and I want to do Molecular Dynamics
 simulations at pH 2 (with explicit solvent).


 To do this, I added three Hydrogen atoms to two of the 8-residue peptite
 (one Hydrogen to the Glu, two Hydrojen to the Asp). And also I choose the
 NH3 for the start terminus and COOH for the end terminus. Finally, I get
 the my peptide at pH 2. And than, I plan to follow the usual procedure
 (define box, fill the box with water, energy minim, md...)


 But, still I am not sure whether this way is correct to get simulation at
 pH 2 or not? Because when I look at the XXX.gro file (and also topol.top)
 after the pdb2gmx –f XXX.pdb, I couldn’t see the new-added hydrogens.



 If you could help me, I would be very happy.


 with my best regards,

 Turgay
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Re: [gmx-users] Force Field for Bilayer Simulations with Cholesterol and Proteins

2014-05-09 Thread David Ackerman
Hello,

I appreciate all the responses.

I would like to keep my simulations United Atom. And the paper I am basing
my work and parameter files on used ffgmx with the Holtje cholesterol and
Berger parameters for the lipids. Therefore, most of the interactions are
Berger interactions, except for the Berger-Gromos interactions of lipid to
cholesterol. I now have learned that a modified cholesterol with Berger
parameters might be better and would reduce effects of overcondensation.

I plan on testing 53a6 with Berger lipid parameters and modified
cholesterol (with Berger LP2 and LP3 replacing CH2 and CH3) to see if it
has any significant qualitative effects on my results for a protein-free
bilayer. This would be especially important if I want to compare these
results with a protein-containing bilayer, since I've come to realize the
gmx force field is not the best for proteins.

-David


On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 8:02 AM, David van der Spoel sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sewrote:

 On 2014-05-09 13:47, Piggot T. wrote:

 Hi David,

 Firstly I would say, is there any reason why you need to use the
 Berger/Höltje/GROMOS force field combination? There are several other
 options available that I can think of which may be easier/better for you.
 You could use the Slipids (with an AMBER force field for the protein),
 CHARMM36 for all of the components of your system, or if you do want to
 stick with a united-atom force field, you could still use one of the GROMOS
 force fields ((e.g. 54A7) with the GROMOS-CKP lipids and the consistent
 cholesterol parameters that you can download from the manual entry of the
 automated topology builder. I haven't ever simulated cholesterol so I
 cannot really recommend which may be better than others for this molecule,
 but there will be plenty of literature out there to look at regarding this.

 Secondly, if you do want to stay with the Berger/Höltje/GROMOS
 combination, you could probably add the missing atomtypes to the GROMOS
 force field you wish to use. I would strongly advise against using the old
 'ffgmx' force field, this has been shown to behave pretty poorly for
 proteins. Do be careful in doing this addition of atomtypes, as the GROMOS
 force fields are different from the all-atom force fields in as much as the
 atomtypes have multiple van der Waals interaction parameters used for
 interactions with different atomtypes. Some of the GROMOS papers describe
 this in far more detail.

 Just some of my thoughts, hopefully of some use!


 You could also look here:

 http://cmb.bio.uni-goettingen.de/downloads.html


  Cheers

 Tom
 --
 Dr Thomas Piggot
 University of Southampton, UK.


 
 From: gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se [
 gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se] on behalf of Ollila
 Samuli [samuli.oll...@aalto.fi]
 Sent: 09 May 2014 11:42
 To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Force Field for Bilayer Simulations with
 Cholesterol and Proteins

 Hi,

 I used ffgmx.itp. It contains CB.

 BR,
 Samuli Ollila

 
 From: gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se [
 gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se] on behalf of David
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 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Force Field for Bilayer Simulations with
 Cholesterol and Proteins

 Thank you for your advice.

 Which force field was used? I have downloaded the cholesterol parameters
 from Höltje et al, but atomtypes like CB do not exist in the force field I
 am using (53a6). Did you change these to other atomtypes as well, or were
 you using a force field that included them?

 -David


 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Ollila Samuli samuli.oll...@aalto.fi
 wrote:

  Hi,

 In my understanding the CH2-LP2 attraction is stronger than LP2-LP2
 attraction in the Berger/Höltje combination you described. If you then
 have
 CH2 groups in cholesterol and LP2 groups in lipids, it might lead to too
 condensed bilayer. I think that the related issue is discussed here:

 http://dx.doi.org/10.1088/0953-8984/18/28/S07

 and here:

 http://dx.doi.org/10.1039/C2CP42738A

 we have changed the CH2 groups in cholesterol to LP2 groups and compared
 the results quite extensively to the NMR measurements.

 BR,
 Samuli Ollila


 
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 gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se] on behalf of David
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 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 7:39 AM
 To: gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se
 Subject: [gmx-users] Force Field for Bilayer Simulations with Cholesterol
and Proteins

 Hello,

 I have been performing simulations of multi-component bilayers using
 parameters described in the following paper:
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23470157. They use the ffgmx
 forcefield
 with Berger lipid parameters 

Re: [gmx-users] MD simulation at pH 2

2014-05-09 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/9/14, 9:45 AM, Turgay Cakmak wrote:

Hi all,


I have the 8-residue peptide and I want to do Molecular Dynamics
simulations at pH 2 (with explicit solvent).


To do this, I added three Hydrogen atoms to two of the 8-residue peptite
(one Hydrogen to the Glu, two Hydrojen to the Asp). And also I choose the
NH3 for the start terminus and COOH for the end terminus. Finally, I get
the my peptide at pH 2. And than, I plan to follow the usual procedure
(define box, fill the box with water, energy minim, md...)


But, still I am not sure whether this way is correct to get simulation at
pH 2 or not? Because when I look at the XXX.gro file (and also topol.top)
after the pdb2gmx –f XXX.pdb, I couldn’t see the new-added hydrogens.



No, that's not a simulation at pH 2, but it is a simulation of the predominant 
form of the peptide at pH 2.


The missing piece of the puzzle here is what your actual pdb2gmx command was. 
If you didn't tell pdb2gmx to protonate Glu and Asp (using -glu and -asp, 
respectively), then it will default to the normal deprotonated forms.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] energy

2014-05-09 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/9/14, 9:38 AM, mirko busato wrote:

Dear Justin,

Thank you very much for your quick reply,

In my .mdp file I set up energygrps to protein ITA.
(ITA is the group for the Itaconic acid monomers)

After that I tried to launch g_energy command on .edr file.

Is it right?

which energy terms do you suggest me to use for my problem (to understand the
affinity peptide-monomer)?



The short-range nonbonded terms are the only ones that get decomposed in a 
pairwise fashion, so the new terms should be fairly obvious from the screen output.


Whether or not those numbers mean anything is another story; they may give you 
some insight into the enthalpic driving forces, but they tell you nothing of the 
actual free energy of binding.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Can't make links on GROMACS

2014-05-09 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/9/14, 8:41 AM, Ooker wrote:

I mean that it is a bug because you can't make link after build from the
source, although it is easy to work around with it.



It's not a bug, it looks like the build target for making links has simply been 
removed, likely a consequence of the complete restructuring of the code and 
executables themselves.  Sourcing GMXRC is the most straightforward way to 
configure your environment to use Gromacs.


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Re: [gmx-users] Can't make links on GROMACS

2014-05-09 Thread Chandan Choudhury
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Ooker ganuongp...@gmail.com wrote:

 I mean that it is a bug because you can't make link after build from the
 source, although it is easy to work around with it.


If you are not the super user, you cannot make links.

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[gmx-users] vdw radii in g_sas

2014-05-09 Thread rajat desikan
Hi All,
In the local copy of vdwradii.dat for g_sas calculations, the vdw radii are
very approximate.

Eg. C = 0.15 nm in vdwradii.dat, whereas ffnonbonded says sigma = 0.367 nm
= vdwradius=0.185 nm

Is it prudent to replace the values in the local vdwradii.dat with the
vdwradii derived from ffnonbonded values? I would love to hear your
thoughts/suggestions.

Thanks,

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Re: [gmx-users] vdw radii in g_sas

2014-05-09 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/9/14, 12:23 PM, rajat desikan wrote:

Hi All,
In the local copy of vdwradii.dat for g_sas calculations, the vdw radii are
very approximate.

Eg. C = 0.15 nm in vdwradii.dat, whereas ffnonbonded says sigma = 0.367 nm
= vdwradius=0.185 nm

Is it prudent to replace the values in the local vdwradii.dat with the
vdwradii derived from ffnonbonded values? I would love to hear your
thoughts/suggestions.



No.  The value of sigma will not give you the van der Waals radius of an atom. 
For each force field, the value is different, and it is based on optimized 
intermolecular distances.  I don't think there's a clear way to turn this into 
some measure of an atom's size.


If you're concerned that the values in vdwradii.dat are not sufficiently 
accurate, replace them with real experimentally determined values.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] Truncated .trr file size - 20% smaller than expected

2014-05-09 Thread Douglas Grahame
Hi there this is my first time posting here so my apologies if I disregard
any general formatting rules! In any event on to my question/problem.

 

I am fairly new to MD simulations with much more background on the
biological side than the simulation side. That being said, I have been
receiving training from another member in the lab and have just started my
simulations of a 325 residue protein using GROMACS 4.5.5. My issue has come
from the fact that when I grompp my EM.mdp, NVT.mdp, or MPT.mdp files
everything seems to be fine ie. No errors or issues and the file sizes match
the expected output size. However, when I run my simulation I'm getting
about a %20 decrease in the size of my .trr file from what it expects. 

 

From my .out file for the molecular dynamics run I get 'WARNING: This run
will generate roughly 24940 Mb of data'

Actual amount of data produced is ~18 Gb of data. 

There are no errors running gmx_check on any of the tpr files are anything
else

 

I've tried running the same simulation on two different supercomputing
clusters to see if the same error occurs just in case it was an issue of the
build version having any effect on the size and run into the same problems

I've tried running the simulation in parts just in case there was some
memory issue causing some problem that I wasn't aware of or looking for

I've gotten my labmate and one more person familiar with GROMACS to look at
my issued commands and they seem stumped

I've also tried running it on 4.6.3 with the verlet cutoff scheme as I was
having some issues with pp/pme load balance

 

Nothing so far has made a difference and although the data seems to be fine
I'm loathe to do all the analysis if there is something majorly wrong with
my simulation. Problem for me is I don't know if or by how much the actual
trr file size should change from the expected amounts. 

 

Command submitted: mdrun_mpi -npme -1 -s MD.tpr -o MD.trr -x MD.xtc -c
MD.pdb -e MD.edr -g MD.log -v -dlb yes -cpo MD.cpt

I am running/wanting to run my simulations for 25 - 50ns

 

Thanks in advance for any help and all the best!

 

-Doug

 

 

 

 



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Re: [gmx-users] Truncated .trr file size - 20% smaller than expected

2014-05-09 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/9/14, 1:46 PM, Douglas Grahame wrote:

Hi there this is my first time posting here so my apologies if I disregard
any general formatting rules! In any event on to my question/problem.



I am fairly new to MD simulations with much more background on the
biological side than the simulation side. That being said, I have been
receiving training from another member in the lab and have just started my
simulations of a 325 residue protein using GROMACS 4.5.5. My issue has come
from the fact that when I grompp my EM.mdp, NVT.mdp, or MPT.mdp files
everything seems to be fine ie. No errors or issues and the file sizes match
the expected output size. However, when I run my simulation I'm getting
about a %20 decrease in the size of my .trr file from what it expects.



 From my .out file for the molecular dynamics run I get 'WARNING: This run
will generate roughly 24940 Mb of data'

Actual amount of data produced is ~18 Gb of data.

There are no errors running gmx_check on any of the tpr files are anything
else



I've tried running the same simulation on two different supercomputing
clusters to see if the same error occurs just in case it was an issue of the
build version having any effect on the size and run into the same problems

I've tried running the simulation in parts just in case there was some
memory issue causing some problem that I wasn't aware of or looking for

I've gotten my labmate and one more person familiar with GROMACS to look at
my issued commands and they seem stumped

I've also tried running it on 4.6.3 with the verlet cutoff scheme as I was
having some issues with pp/pme load balance



Nothing so far has made a difference and although the data seems to be fine
I'm loathe to do all the analysis if there is something majorly wrong with
my simulation. Problem for me is I don't know if or by how much the actual
trr file size should change from the expected amounts.



Command submitted: mdrun_mpi -npme -1 -s MD.tpr -o MD.trr -x MD.xtc -c
MD.pdb -e MD.edr -g MD.log -v -dlb yes -cpo MD.cpt



For what it's worth, save yourself some typing with:

mdrun_mpi -npme -1 -deffnm MD -dlb yes


I am running/wanting to run my simulations for 25 - 50ns



Probably the grompp estimate is just off.  If gmxcheck confirms you have 
everything you should, there's no reason to think there is a problem.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] vdw radii in g_sas

2014-05-09 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/9/14, 3:35 PM, rajat desikan wrote:

Thanks Justin. I am curious about the value for a phosphorus atom (protein
in phospholipid bilayer; g_sas issues a warning). Do you know any reference
for experimental values?



Google knows.

-Justin


On Friday, May 9, 2014, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 5/9/14, 12:23 PM, rajat desikan wrote:


Hi All,
In the local copy of vdwradii.dat for g_sas calculations, the vdw radii
are
very approximate.

Eg. C = 0.15 nm in vdwradii.dat, whereas ffnonbonded says sigma = 0.367 nm
= vdwradius=0.185 nm

Is it prudent to replace the values in the local vdwradii.dat with the
vdwradii derived from ffnonbonded values? I would love to hear your
thoughts/suggestions.



No.  The value of sigma will not give you the van der Waals radius of an
atom. For each force field, the value is different, and it is based on
optimized intermolecular distances.  I don't think there's a clear way to
turn this into some measure of an atom's size.

If you're concerned that the values in vdwradii.dat are not sufficiently
accurate, replace them with real experimentally determined values.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] vdw radii in g_sas

2014-05-09 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Do mind that the radius for P in PO4 is different from that for P alone.

Cheers,

Tsjerk
On May 9, 2014 10:53 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 5/9/14, 3:35 PM, rajat desikan wrote:

 Thanks Justin. I am curious about the value for a phosphorus atom (protein
 in phospholipid bilayer; g_sas issues a warning). Do you know any
 reference
 for experimental values?


 Google knows.

 -Justin

  On Friday, May 9, 2014, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 5/9/14, 12:23 PM, rajat desikan wrote:

  Hi All,
 In the local copy of vdwradii.dat for g_sas calculations, the vdw radii
 are
 very approximate.

 Eg. C = 0.15 nm in vdwradii.dat, whereas ffnonbonded says sigma = 0.367
 nm
 = vdwradius=0.185 nm

 Is it prudent to replace the values in the local vdwradii.dat with the
 vdwradii derived from ffnonbonded values? I would love to hear your
 thoughts/suggestions.


  No.  The value of sigma will not give you the van der Waals radius of
 an
 atom. For each force field, the value is different, and it is based on
 optimized intermolecular distances.  I don't think there's a clear way to
 turn this into some measure of an atom's size.

 If you're concerned that the values in vdwradii.dat are not sufficiently
 accurate, replace them with real experimentally determined values.

 -Justin

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[gmx-users] gen pairs missing from vmd top

2014-05-09 Thread gromacs query
Hi All

I am using topo writegmxtop output.top in VMD  and it writes fake sort of
top file which needs further user based adjustments.

The top file so generated has all [bonds] [angles] [dihedral] information
but [pairs] are missing. I am using charmm36 which says gen-pair =yes in
forcefield.itp. Does this mean it won't matter if I include or not [pairs]
information in top file?
pdb2gmx does explicitly prints [pairs] information when I generate top file
for some default residues in rtp file.

So should I mention them explicitly? Is there any script/command which can
generate them as I have bond information (one can write own script simply
if its a linear molecule but branching makes thing difficult).

thanks
JIom
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Re: [gmx-users] gen pairs missing from vmd top

2014-05-09 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 5/9/14, 7:35 PM, gromacs query wrote:

Hi All

I am using topo writegmxtop output.top in VMD  and it writes fake sort of
top file which needs further user based adjustments.

The top file so generated has all [bonds] [angles] [dihedral] information
but [pairs] are missing. I am using charmm36 which says gen-pair =yes in
forcefield.itp. Does this mean it won't matter if I include or not [pairs]
information in top file?
pdb2gmx does explicitly prints [pairs] information when I generate top file
for some default residues in rtp file.

So should I mention them explicitly? Is there any script/command which can
generate them as I have bond information (one can write own script simply
if its a linear molecule but branching makes thing difficult).



Pairs do need to be listed explicitly in the .top file.  The gen-pairs keyword 
only affects the generation of pairtypes; if set to yes it will use normal 
combination rules for any pair that does not have [pairtypes] explicitly listed 
in ffbonded.itp (which, in the case of CHARMM, is all of them).


-Justin

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