[gmx-users] Question on energygrps setting

2020-05-06 Thread Lei Qian
Dear users,

I know interaction energy calculation is carried out via energygrps setting
in mdp file.
Because free energy-related settings do not include this energygrps
setting, so I think this energygrps setting may NOT be related to free
energy settings.
Could I ask whether my idea is correct or not?

Thanks!
Lei
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[gmx-users] Info regarding restrained minimization, equilibration & production

2020-05-06 Thread Paolo Costa
Dear Gromacs users,

I am interested on studying the interaction between large metal cluster
anions (polyoxometallates, POM) with different organic cations (e.g
perylenes, etc..) in water.
I have already the non bonded parameters of POMs from literature, while the
bonded parameters I calculated from Gaussian and VFFDT software.
If I do not apply a position restraining force on the POM atoms, the POM
structure gets distorted too much from the experimental one. I guess this
is due to the lack of a good force field parametrization for
metal-containing compound.
*Thus, my question is the following:*
*can I keep applying a position restraining force on POM atoms during the
minimization, equilibration and production steps or is it conceptually
wrong?*

Thanks.

Best regards,

Paolo

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Re: [gmx-users] Free volume variation during the simulation

2020-05-06 Thread David van der Spoel

Den 2020-05-06 kl. 10:21, skrev Mohamed Abdelaal:

Yes I measured both, the density and the free volume using gromacs.

Since the free volume changes with respect to time, shouldn’t the density
also change with time ?
What do you mean with "changes"? If the density is constant (with 
fluctuations) in an equilibrium NPT simulation then the free volume 
should fluctuate around an average as well.


If you have a NVT simulation on the other hand, the total density is 
going to be constant, but if your system undergoes a phase change the 
freevolume will change.


Thanks,
Mohamed

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 08:23 David van der Spoel 
wrote:


Den 2020-05-06 kl. 01:13, skrev Mohamed Abdelaal:

Hello everybody,

I have two fundamental questions please.

I have measured the fee volume and I discovered that, the free volume
changes with respect to the time during the production run (different

value

for each frame). However I have measured the density but the result does
not change with respect to time.

Shouldn't the density also changes with time if the free volume changes
with  time ?

I also can't understand why the free volume changes with respect to the
time, if the number of molecules and volume of box didn't change.

Many Thanks,
Mohamed


This is due to atomic fluctuations, that is they overlap more or less
depending on their distance, Did you use the freevolume tool in gromacs?
It may also depend on whether each freevolume calculations is converged
(-ninsert option).

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Re: [gmx-users] Free volume variation during the simulation

2020-05-06 Thread Mohamed Abdelaal
I started with NVT then NPT then md production run.

Thanks,
Kohamed

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:40 Arun Srikanth  wrote:

> Is it an NPT simulation or NVT simulation?
> Arun
>
> On Wed, 6 May 2020, 9:27 am Mohamed Abdelaal, 
> wrote:
>
> > Yes I measured both, the density and the free volume using gromacs.
> >
> > Since the free volume changes with respect to time, shouldn’t the density
> > also change with time ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mohamed
> >
> > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 08:23 David van der Spoel 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Den 2020-05-06 kl. 01:13, skrev Mohamed Abdelaal:
> > > > Hello everybody,
> > > >
> > > > I have two fundamental questions please.
> > > >
> > > > I have measured the fee volume and I discovered that, the free volume
> > > > changes with respect to the time during the production run (different
> > > value
> > > > for each frame). However I have measured the density but the result
> > does
> > > > not change with respect to time.
> > > >
> > > > Shouldn't the density also changes with time if the free volume
> changes
> > > > with  time ?
> > > >
> > > > I also can't understand why the free volume changes with respect to
> the
> > > > time, if the number of molecules and volume of box didn't change.
> > > >
> > > > Many Thanks,
> > > > Mohamed
> > > >
> > > This is due to atomic fluctuations, that is they overlap more or less
> > > depending on their distance, Did you use the freevolume tool in
> gromacs?
> > > It may also depend on whether each freevolume calculations is converged
> > > (-ninsert option).
> > >
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Re: [gmx-users] Free volume variation during the simulation

2020-05-06 Thread Arun Srikanth
Is it an NPT simulation or NVT simulation?
Arun

On Wed, 6 May 2020, 9:27 am Mohamed Abdelaal, 
wrote:

> Yes I measured both, the density and the free volume using gromacs.
>
> Since the free volume changes with respect to time, shouldn’t the density
> also change with time ?
>
> Thanks,
> Mohamed
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 08:23 David van der Spoel 
> wrote:
>
> > Den 2020-05-06 kl. 01:13, skrev Mohamed Abdelaal:
> > > Hello everybody,
> > >
> > > I have two fundamental questions please.
> > >
> > > I have measured the fee volume and I discovered that, the free volume
> > > changes with respect to the time during the production run (different
> > value
> > > for each frame). However I have measured the density but the result
> does
> > > not change with respect to time.
> > >
> > > Shouldn't the density also changes with time if the free volume changes
> > > with  time ?
> > >
> > > I also can't understand why the free volume changes with respect to the
> > > time, if the number of molecules and volume of box didn't change.
> > >
> > > Many Thanks,
> > > Mohamed
> > >
> > This is due to atomic fluctuations, that is they overlap more or less
> > depending on their distance, Did you use the freevolume tool in gromacs?
> > It may also depend on whether each freevolume calculations is converged
> > (-ninsert option).
> >
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> > Professor of Biology
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Re: [gmx-users] Free volume variation during the simulation

2020-05-06 Thread Mohamed Abdelaal
Yes I measured both, the density and the free volume using gromacs.

Since the free volume changes with respect to time, shouldn’t the density
also change with time ?

Thanks,
Mohamed

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 08:23 David van der Spoel 
wrote:

> Den 2020-05-06 kl. 01:13, skrev Mohamed Abdelaal:
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > I have two fundamental questions please.
> >
> > I have measured the fee volume and I discovered that, the free volume
> > changes with respect to the time during the production run (different
> value
> > for each frame). However I have measured the density but the result does
> > not change with respect to time.
> >
> > Shouldn't the density also changes with time if the free volume changes
> > with  time ?
> >
> > I also can't understand why the free volume changes with respect to the
> > time, if the number of molecules and volume of box didn't change.
> >
> > Many Thanks,
> > Mohamed
> >
> This is due to atomic fluctuations, that is they overlap more or less
> depending on their distance, Did you use the freevolume tool in gromacs?
> It may also depend on whether each freevolume calculations is converged
> (-ninsert option).
>
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> Professor of Biology
> Uppsala University.
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Re: [gmx-users] Free volume variation during the simulation

2020-05-06 Thread David van der Spoel

Den 2020-05-06 kl. 01:13, skrev Mohamed Abdelaal:

Hello everybody,

I have two fundamental questions please.

I have measured the fee volume and I discovered that, the free volume
changes with respect to the time during the production run (different value
for each frame). However I have measured the density but the result does
not change with respect to time.

Shouldn't the density also changes with time if the free volume changes
with  time ?

I also can't understand why the free volume changes with respect to the
time, if the number of molecules and volume of box didn't change.

Many Thanks,
Mohamed

This is due to atomic fluctuations, that is they overlap more or less 
depending on their distance, Did you use the freevolume tool in gromacs? 
It may also depend on whether each freevolume calculations is converged 
(-ninsert option).


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