Re: [gmx-users] how to fix error: Some of these results violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics

2020-02-13 Thread Paul bauer

Hello,

you'll need to check if you are properly sampling the different states 
in your simulations,  which should be possible by analyzing the 
histograms you can get from gmx bar -oh


Otherwise you'll need to check if your simulation parameters are 
realistic, as the program warns you :)


Cheers

Paul

On 13/02/2020 21:19, Sadaf Rani wrote:

Dear Gromacs users

I am doing free energy calculation of a ligand with protein. When I do gmx
bar it gives me the following error:-

Temperature: 298.15 K

Detailed results in kT (see help for explanation):

  lam_A  lam_B  DG   +/- s_A   +/- s_B   +/-   stdev   +/-
  0  13.29  0.061.28  0.101.37  0.081.54  0.09
  1  21.41  0.040.47  0.050.31  0.050.77  0.03
  2  30.88  0.060.09  0.020.06  0.010.41  0.06
  3  40.67  0.03   -0.01  0.03   -0.01  0.030.25  0.01
  4  50.50  0.010.11  0.000.10  0.000.22  0.01
  5  60.33  0.01   -0.04  0.01   -0.07  0.030.21  0.03
  6  70.27  0.020.07  0.040.04  0.020.22  0.03
  7  80.11  0.030.05  0.020.04  0.010.16  0.01
  8  90.11  0.01   -0.09  0.02   -0.10  0.020.17  0.01
  9 100.08  0.020.12  0.010.12  0.010.20  0.00
 10 11   -0.04  0.03   -0.01  0.03   -0.01  0.030.18  0.01
 11 12   -0.09  0.030.06  0.030.05  0.030.19  0.02
 12 13   -0.02  0.03   -0.12  0.03   -0.12  0.030.23  0.01
 13 14   -0.01  0.030.17  0.030.16  0.030.28  0.02
 14 15   -0.06  0.03   -0.09  0.03   -0.09  0.030.25  0.01
 15 16   -0.04  0.030.13  0.040.13  0.040.29  0.01
 16 17   -0.15  0.030.04  0.010.04  0.010.24  0.01
 17 18   -0.14  0.030.01  0.020.01  0.020.25  0.01
 18 19   -0.07  0.03   -0.01  0.01   -0.08  0.020.27  0.01
 19 20   -0.05  0.010.18  0.000.09  0.000.28  0.00

WARNING: Some of these results violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics:
  This is can be the result of severe undersampling, or (more likely)
  there is something wrong with the simulations.


Final results in kJ/mol:

point  0 -  1,   DG  8.14 +/-  0.14
point  1 -  2,   DG  3.50 +/-  0.09
point  2 -  3,   DG  2.19 +/-  0.14
point  3 -  4,   DG  1.66 +/-  0.07
point  4 -  5,   DG  1.24 +/-  0.02
point  5 -  6,   DG  0.83 +/-  0.02
point  6 -  7,   DG  0.66 +/-  0.06
point  7 -  8,   DG  0.28 +/-  0.08
point  8 -  9,   DG  0.28 +/-  0.03
point  9 - 10,   DG  0.19 +/-  0.05
point 10 - 11,   DG -0.10 +/-  0.08
point 11 - 12,   DG -0.22 +/-  0.07
point 12 - 13,   DG -0.05 +/-  0.08
point 13 - 14,   DG -0.03 +/-  0.08
point 14 - 15,   DG -0.16 +/-  0.07
point 15 - 16,   DG -0.10 +/-  0.07
point 16 - 17,   DG -0.37 +/-  0.07
point 17 - 18,   DG -0.35 +/-  0.08
point 18 - 19,   DG -0.17 +/-  0.06
point 19 - 20,   DG -0.13 +/-  0.02

total  0 - 20,   DG 17.29 +/-  0.47


I have read in the link that I should not have negative entropy values in
my simulation
https://www.mail-archive.com/gmx-users@gromacs.org/msg55772.html.
Can anyone please suggest me what could be wrong during my simulation and
how should I fix it?

Thank you
Sadaf Rani
Ph.D. visiting student
Lancaster University
Uk



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[gmx-users] how to fix error: Some of these results violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics

2020-02-13 Thread Sadaf Rani
Dear Gromacs users

I am doing free energy calculation of a ligand with protein. When I do gmx
bar it gives me the following error:-

Temperature: 298.15 K

Detailed results in kT (see help for explanation):

 lam_A  lam_B  DG   +/- s_A   +/- s_B   +/-   stdev   +/-
 0  13.29  0.061.28  0.101.37  0.081.54  0.09
 1  21.41  0.040.47  0.050.31  0.050.77  0.03
 2  30.88  0.060.09  0.020.06  0.010.41  0.06
 3  40.67  0.03   -0.01  0.03   -0.01  0.030.25  0.01
 4  50.50  0.010.11  0.000.10  0.000.22  0.01
 5  60.33  0.01   -0.04  0.01   -0.07  0.030.21  0.03
 6  70.27  0.020.07  0.040.04  0.020.22  0.03
 7  80.11  0.030.05  0.020.04  0.010.16  0.01
 8  90.11  0.01   -0.09  0.02   -0.10  0.020.17  0.01
 9 100.08  0.020.12  0.010.12  0.010.20  0.00
10 11   -0.04  0.03   -0.01  0.03   -0.01  0.030.18  0.01
11 12   -0.09  0.030.06  0.030.05  0.030.19  0.02
12 13   -0.02  0.03   -0.12  0.03   -0.12  0.030.23  0.01
13 14   -0.01  0.030.17  0.030.16  0.030.28  0.02
14 15   -0.06  0.03   -0.09  0.03   -0.09  0.030.25  0.01
15 16   -0.04  0.030.13  0.040.13  0.040.29  0.01
16 17   -0.15  0.030.04  0.010.04  0.010.24  0.01
17 18   -0.14  0.030.01  0.020.01  0.020.25  0.01
18 19   -0.07  0.03   -0.01  0.01   -0.08  0.020.27  0.01
19 20   -0.05  0.010.18  0.000.09  0.000.28  0.00

WARNING: Some of these results violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics:
 This is can be the result of severe undersampling, or (more likely)
 there is something wrong with the simulations.


Final results in kJ/mol:

point  0 -  1,   DG  8.14 +/-  0.14
point  1 -  2,   DG  3.50 +/-  0.09
point  2 -  3,   DG  2.19 +/-  0.14
point  3 -  4,   DG  1.66 +/-  0.07
point  4 -  5,   DG  1.24 +/-  0.02
point  5 -  6,   DG  0.83 +/-  0.02
point  6 -  7,   DG  0.66 +/-  0.06
point  7 -  8,   DG  0.28 +/-  0.08
point  8 -  9,   DG  0.28 +/-  0.03
point  9 - 10,   DG  0.19 +/-  0.05
point 10 - 11,   DG -0.10 +/-  0.08
point 11 - 12,   DG -0.22 +/-  0.07
point 12 - 13,   DG -0.05 +/-  0.08
point 13 - 14,   DG -0.03 +/-  0.08
point 14 - 15,   DG -0.16 +/-  0.07
point 15 - 16,   DG -0.10 +/-  0.07
point 16 - 17,   DG -0.37 +/-  0.07
point 17 - 18,   DG -0.35 +/-  0.08
point 18 - 19,   DG -0.17 +/-  0.06
point 19 - 20,   DG -0.13 +/-  0.02

total  0 - 20,   DG 17.29 +/-  0.47


I have read in the link that I should not have negative entropy values in
my simulation
https://www.mail-archive.com/gmx-users@gromacs.org/msg55772.html.
Can anyone please suggest me what could be wrong during my simulation and
how should I fix it?

Thank you
Sadaf Rani
Ph.D. visiting student
Lancaster University
Uk
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