Re: [gmx-users] Feedback wanted - mdp option for preparation vs production

2018-08-24 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi, On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 4:55 PM Szilárd Páll wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 4:23 PM Mark Abraham > wrote: > > > Hi, > > the > > There's other examples, e.g. freeze groups, pressure coupling with > position > > restraints, maybe position restraints generally, generating velocities, > >

Re: [gmx-users] Feedback wanted - mdp option for preparation vs production

2018-08-24 Thread Szilárd Páll
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 4:23 PM Mark Abraham wrote: > Hi, > the > There's other examples, e.g. freeze groups, pressure coupling with position > restraints, maybe position restraints generally, generating velocities, > size of steps, time constants of coupling algorithms. Obviously we can >

Re: [gmx-users] Feedback wanted - mdp option for preparation vs production

2018-08-24 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi, There's other examples, e.g. freeze groups, pressure coupling with position restraints, maybe position restraints generally, generating velocities, size of steps, time constants of coupling algorithms. Obviously we can always improve docs and messages, but equally users aren't always going to

Re: [gmx-users] Feedback wanted - mdp option for preparation vs production

2018-08-24 Thread Szilárd Páll
The thermostat choice is an easy example where there is a clear case to be made for the proposed mdp option, but what other uses are these for such an option? Unless there are at least a few, I'd say it's better to improve the UI messages, option documentation, manual, etc. than introduce a ~

Re: [gmx-users] Feedback wanted - mdp option for preparation vs production

2018-08-24 Thread Paul bauer
To add my 2 cents to the discussion, I think having the explicit switch between preparation and production runs will be definitely useful for users, and I think it will also make it easier to rework the input settings if we can simply have one check at the beginning that determines if we are

Re: [gmx-users] Feedback wanted - mdp option for preparation vs production

2018-08-24 Thread Justin Lemkul
On 8/24/18 9:09 AM, Mark Abraham wrote: Hi, You can't prevent misuse... give someone a scalpel and they might lose a finger! The key targets for helping are the newer users who don't have the experience to know which way to hold the scalpel. If they can be trained to use these flags (e.g.

Re: [gmx-users] Feedback wanted - mdp option for preparation vs production

2018-08-24 Thread Victor Rosas Garcia
El jue., 23 ago. 2018 a las 17:03, Mark Abraham () escribió: > Hi, > > [snip, snip] > Despite this, there are times when one might want to use such an algorithm, > and so we permit users to suppress warnings from grompp with -maxwarn. > However, encouraging such behaviour leads to people abusing

Re: [gmx-users] Feedback wanted - mdp option for preparation vs production

2018-08-23 Thread Dallas Warren
So preparation turns the "warnings" into "notes"? Sounds like a good idea here. I actually do 6 runs through grompp / mdrun before my systems are ready for production. Don't think you need more flavours than that, though might need one for minimisation? Catch ya, Dr. Dallas Warren Drug