Re: [gmx-users] QM guy at wits' end

2013-11-20 Thread SAllen
Justin-

This is exactly what I've been looking for. Thanks a lot!
-Scott

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Re: [gmx-users] QM guy at wits' end

2013-11-20 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2013-11-20 20:07, SAllen wrote:

Hello,

I want to run MD simulations on a series of macrocycles that contain a lot
of non-standard residues (dehydroalanines, dehydrobutyrines, 1,3-thiazoles,
and a pyridine for good measure). I've been coming the internets for a
reasonable guide on how to develop parameter and topology files for my
structures, and I'll I've found are sites saying that it's too hard. Does
anyone have any good guides for developing (reasonable!) topology and
parameter files? I have access to lots of QM programs (gaussian, spartan,
even schrodinger).


You want to make polymers of those compounds?
For single molecules check http://virtualchemistry.org

How many you want to do? You can contact me off list if you wish, I have 
1600 small molecules parameterized, but not tested yet.




Thanks,
-Scott

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Re: [gmx-users] QM guy at wits' end

2013-11-20 Thread Justin Lemkul
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:07 PM, SAllen  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I want to run MD simulations on a series of macrocycles that contain a lot
> of non-standard residues (dehydroalanines, dehydrobutyrines, 1,3-thiazoles,
> and a pyridine for good measure). I've been coming the internets for a
> reasonable guide on how to develop parameter and topology files for my
> structures, and I'll I've found are sites saying that it's too hard. Does
> anyone have any good guides for developing (reasonable!) topology and
> parameter files? I have access to lots of QM programs (gaussian, spartan,
> even schrodinger).
>
>
Parametrization generally is too hard for anyone completely new to
computational chemistry, but if you've got experience with QM, it's
probably quite easy.  The main issue here is that there truly is not one
answer to this question.  One must first decide on a suitable parent force
field under which you can parametrize your molecules.  If you're deriving a
lot of things from scratch, almost anything can be made to work, so you
choose the force field whose methods are easiest to follow or the one(s)
for which a generalized force field for small molecules is available.
 AMBER and CHARMM are great choices here, because they both have
generalized force fields for arbitrary molecules (GAFF and CGenFF,
respectively).  The parametrization methods for these force fields are very
well detailed in the literature.  That's what you need to follow;
parametrize the molecule in the same way that other model compounds were
parametrized so that the underlying model is internally self-consistent.

CGenFF even has a web server (ParamChem) that will generate pretty good
starting topologies for just about anything you provide for it.  You can
then refine the parameters according to the 2010 paper (which is really a
case study on pyrrolidine and works through the protocol in very nice
detail).

-Justin

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