Re: [GROW] Discourage asdot+/asdot?

2018-09-16 Thread Jeffrey Haas
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 02:29:37PM -0400, Warren Kumari wrote: > Seriously, 6 different ways to notate a MAC address... > Nope, this isn't actionable, but thank you for letting me vent! TBH, RFC 6021: typedef mac-address { type string { pattern '[0-9a-fA-F]{2}(:[0-9a-fA-F]{2}){5}';

Re: [GROW] Discourage asdot+/asdot?

2018-08-13 Thread Warren Kumari
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 7:33 AM Nick Hilliard wrote: > > Daniel Shaw wrote on 10/08/2018 08:29: > > I think that on closer examination you may find the AFRINIC whois also > > changed around the same timeframe, perhaps a year later. It seems that > > there may be one (or possibly some other very

Re: [GROW] Discourage asdot+/asdot?

2018-08-13 Thread Nick Hilliard
Daniel Shaw wrote on 10/08/2018 08:29: I think that on closer examination you may find the AFRINIC whois also changed around the same timeframe, perhaps a year later. It seems that there may be one (or possibly some other very small number of) test objects that did not get converted/clean-up.

Re: [GROW] Discourage asdot+/asdot?

2018-08-07 Thread Nick Hilliard
Gert Doering wrote on 06/08/2018 23:08: It totally wrecked my nice AS3.3 into an ugly large number, but there was strong enough pushing that I was overruled. asdot was something that seemed like a good idea until the day that someone tried to use it in production :-| Nick

Re: [GROW] Discourage asdot+/asdot?

2018-08-06 Thread Randy Bush
this was a major war some time back. it might be fun to do it sgain. randy ___ GROW mailing list GROW@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/grow

Re: [GROW] Discourage asdot+/asdot?

2018-08-06 Thread Job Snijders
On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 22:08, Gert Doering wrote: > On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 08:55:47PM +0200, Job Snijders wrote: > > If people agree that a doc discouraging the use of asdot should exist, > > please let me know. > > Nick might remember where the push came from that made "RIPE" (the > community,

Re: [GROW] Discourage asdot+/asdot?

2018-08-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 08:55:47PM +0200, Job Snijders wrote: > If people agree that a doc discouraging the use of asdot should exist, > please let me know. Nick might remember where the push came from that made "RIPE" (the community, the NCC, the RIPE DB) change from ASDOT to ASPLAIN. It

Re: [GROW] Discourage asdot+/asdot?

2018-08-06 Thread Nick Hilliard
Job Snijders wrote on 06/08/2018 20:35: I'm not the biggest fan of that philosophy. Especially because in the milions of objecst that exist in the combined IRR databases, it appears only four of them have something with ASDOT in the wrong place. right, you didn't mention that the 4 affected

Re: [GROW] Discourage asdot+/asdot?

2018-08-06 Thread Job Snijders
On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 20:53, Christopher Morrow < christopher.mor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 10:36 AM Job Snijders wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 01:26:41PM -0400, Jeffrey Haas wrote: >> > > On Aug 6, 2018, at 8:20 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: >> > > >> > > Job Snijders

Re: [GROW] Discourage asdot+/asdot?

2018-08-06 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 10:36 AM Job Snijders wrote: > On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 01:26:41PM -0400, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > > > On Aug 6, 2018, at 8:20 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > > > > > Job Snijders wrote on 06/08/2018 14:22> > > >> RFC 5396 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5396 described the

Re: [GROW] Discourage asdot+/asdot?

2018-08-06 Thread Job Snijders
On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 01:26:41PM -0400, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > > On Aug 6, 2018, at 8:20 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > > > Job Snijders wrote on 06/08/2018 14:22> > >> RFC 5396 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5396 described the "asdot+" > >> and "asdot" representation formats for AS numbers. I'd

Re: [GROW] Discourage asdot+/asdot?

2018-08-06 Thread Jeffrey Haas
> On Aug 6, 2018, at 8:20 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > Job Snijders wrote on 06/08/2018 14:22> RFC 5396 > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5396 described the "asdot+" and >> "asdot" representation formats for AS numbers. >> I'd personally prefer a single canonical way to represent ASNs >>

Re: [GROW] Discourage asdot+/asdot?

2018-08-06 Thread Nick Hilliard
Job Snijders wrote on 06/08/2018 14:22> RFC 5396 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5396 described the "asdot+" and "asdot" representation formats for AS numbers. I'd personally prefer a single canonical way to represent ASNs (asplain), and while RFC 5396 proposes the adoption of a decimal value

[GROW] Discourage asdot+/asdot?

2018-08-06 Thread Job Snijders
Dear WG, RFC 5396 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5396 described the "asdot+" and "asdot" representation formats for AS numbers. I'd personally prefer a single canonical way to represent ASNs (asplain), and while RFC 5396 proposes the adoption of a decimal value notation 'asplain', I don't think