Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-00.txt

2018-03-01 Thread Randy Bush
> IOS XR: "set community X" removes _all_ except WKC, and sets X ^ some randy ___ GROW mailing list GROW@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/grow

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-00.txt

2018-03-01 Thread i3D.net - Martijn Schmidt
On 01-03-18 13:50, Job Snijders wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 09:52:50PM -0500, Jay Borkenhagen wrote: >> For what it's worth, I first noticed the special treatment of some >> well-known communities after Job announced his GRACEFUL_SHUTDOWN >> beacon prefix. I expected that it would not have pa

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-00.txt

2018-03-01 Thread Job Snijders
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 09:52:50PM -0500, Jay Borkenhagen wrote: > For what it's worth, I first noticed the special treatment of some > well-known communities after Job announced his GRACEFUL_SHUTDOWN > beacon prefix. I expected that it would not have passed intact > through a "set community foo"

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-00.txt

2018-03-01 Thread Randy Bush
>> did you even know this was happening, that "set community" might >> not replace ALL well known communities?" > > No, as in, "I assumed that 'set community' would stamp the communities > listed onto the prefix, and replace everything already there". jay was shocked when he discovered it, and i

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-00.txt

2018-03-01 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 09:52:37AM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: > question for ops: > > did you even know this was happening, that "set community" might not > replace ALL well known communities?" No, as in, "I assumed that 'set community' would stamp the communities listed onto the prefix, a

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-00.txt

2018-02-28 Thread Randy Bush
> Trouble with WKC is that some you want to remove, some you want to > honor, and some you just want to pass-through without taking any > action. and, if i was of that mind, i would want to decide which, not have the vendors do so. > "set community" isn't a great fit for cherry-picking. nor is

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-00.txt

2018-02-28 Thread Jay Borkenhagen
> > >> i did not realize this was going on. jay, who discovered it, was > > >> surprised. > > > > > > NTT noticed this type of inconsistency between some vendors somewhere > > > in July 2016. [...] [...] > I know of other carriers who are not interested in preserving any > community inf

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-00.txt

2018-02-28 Thread Job Snijders
On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 10:54:08AM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: > >> question for ops: > >> > >> did you even know this was happening, that "set community" might not > >> replace ALL well known communities?" > >> > >> the reasom i ask is, as you see in the draft, we are hesitant to > >> propose chang

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-00.txt

2018-02-28 Thread Randy Bush
>> question for ops: >> >> did you even know this was happening, that "set community" might not >> replace ALL well known communities?" >> >> the reasom i ask is, as you see in the draft, we are hesitant to >> propose changing behavior for existing wks as it might impact ops. >> but if we were no

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-00.txt

2018-02-28 Thread Job Snijders
On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 09:52:37AM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: > question for ops: > > did you even know this was happening, that "set community" might not > replace ALL well known communities?" > > the reasom i ask is, as you see in the draft, we are hesitant to > propose changing behavior for exis

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-00.txt

2018-02-28 Thread Randy Bush
question for ops: did you even know this was happening, that "set community" might not replace ALL well known communities?" the reasom i ask is, as you see in the draft, we are hesitant to propose changing behavior for existing wks as it might impact ops. but if we were not aware of this beh

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-00.txt

2018-02-27 Thread Job Snijders
Hi authors, This is an excellent initiative. Kind regards, Job On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 09:13:31AM -0800, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > > Title : Well-Known Community Policy Behavior