Re: [GROW] WG Adoption Call: draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-01 2018.06.11-2018.06.26

2018-06-12 Thread Nick Hilliard

Job Snijders wrote on 11/06/2018 21:59:

Please take a moment to read and evaluate the document and let the
working group know whether you'd like to continue work on this document
as working group or not.


yep, sounds good, but what will this do to the vendors' two main 
weapons, fear and surprise?


Nick

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Re: [GROW] WG Adoption Call: draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-01 2018.06.11-2018.06.26

2018-06-12 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
I support.

Thanks,
Jakob

-Original Message-
From: GROW  On Behalf Of Job Snijders
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 2:00 PM
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Subject: [GROW] WG Adoption Call: draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-01 
2018.06.11-2018.06.26

Dear working group,

The authors of draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior [1] requested the chairs to
consider issuing a call for working group adoption. Here is the
abstract:

"Well-Known BGP Communities are manipulated inconsistently by
current implementations. This results in difficulties for
operators. It is recommended that removal policies be applied
consistently to Well-Known Communities."

[1]: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-01

Please take a moment to read and evaluate the document and let the
working group know whether you'd like to continue work on this document
as working group or not.

We'll close the call on 2018-06-26

Kind regards,

Job

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Re: [GROW] WG Adoption Call: draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-01 2018.06.11-2018.06.26

2018-06-12 Thread heasley
Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 08:59:39PM +, Job Snijders:
> Dear working group,
> 
> The authors of draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior [1] requested the chairs to
> consider issuing a call for working group adoption. Here is the
> abstract:
> 
> "Well-Known BGP Communities are manipulated inconsistently by
> current implementations. This results in difficulties for
> operators. It is recommended that removal policies be applied
> consistently to Well-Known Communities."
> 
> [1]: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-01
> 
> Please take a moment to read and evaluate the document and let the
> working group know whether you'd like to continue work on this document
> as working group or not.

i support adoption, preferring prescription of the process rather than
platform nuances.

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Re: [GROW] WG Adoption Call: draft-ymbk-grow-wkc-behavior-01 2018.06.11-2018.06.26

2018-06-12 Thread Randy Bush
>> Please take a moment to read and evaluate the document and let the
>> working group know whether you'd like to continue work on this
>> document as working group or not.
> yep, sounds good, but what will this do to the vendors' two main
> weapons, fear and surprise?

there are so many knobs, that they do not lack targets.

job sugggested to add a clause recommending that operators not use
'set' at all to remove communities, but do it explicitly.  the authors
would appreciate comments on that.

randy

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