Hi Fred,

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 06:19:09PM +0000, Templin, Fred L wrote:
> Is there interest in having a presentation about this in London next
> week?

### Speaking as a working group participant.

I'm not sure this is work that is a great fit for GROW. Since the work
appears to be about a private airplane control traffic network operating
as an overlay, I'd liken the work more to SCADA related work than
Internet related projects. The fact that these planes fly around the
world (global), and BGP is used (routing), doesn't necessarily make it a
GROW item. You've indicated that ATN/IPS may not even be using the
Internet as underlay.

I've given some thought to what would maybe be better working group.
And, in all seriousness, I think the Internet-Of-Things side of IETF may
be better. It is perhaps unconventional to liken a large item such as an
airplane to what we often consider "Things" in the IoT-context such as
mediaplayers, light bulbs, etc - but given the constraints you mentioned
in your emails (BGP is too much protocol overhead etc) the airplanes
really seems just "very large things" in IoT context.

Have you considered one of the following groups?

    https://datatracker.ietf.org/rg/t2trg/about/ ('low-resource
    nodes ("things", "constrained nodes") can communicate among
    themselves and with the wider Internet')

    https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/detnet/about/ ('engine control
    systems, and other general industrial and vehicular applications')

I don't have access to a lot of airplanes, so I think it would be hard
for me to contribute in a meaningful way.

### (with co-chair hat on)

If GROW participants are interested in draft-templin-atn-bgp-06.txt,
please speak up now. If there is interest, we'll try to make it fit in
the IETF 101 agenda.

Kind regards,

Job

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