Re: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network

2018-03-17 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: "Templin, Fred L" Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:19 PM > Chris, > > I forgot to mention that one of the key requirements is that there be no > dynamic routing protocol running over the air-to-ground data links. The > data links we

Re: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network

2018-03-17 Thread Randy Bush
> I'm not sure this is work that is a great fit for GROW. you are being too polite. this is a poorly thought out idea. people have already pointed out simpler approaches. but our job is not to design this for boeing, it is to decide if this is work for this wg. imiho, it isn't. randy

Re: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network

2018-03-16 Thread Templin, Fred L
tt.net] > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 3:24 AM > To: Templin, Fred L <fred.l.temp...@boeing.com> > Cc: Christopher Morrow <christopher.mor...@gmail.com>; grow@ietf.org; > Saccone, Gregory T <gregory.t.sacc...@boeing.com>; > Gaurav Dawra <gdawra.i...@gmail.com> &g

Re: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network

2018-03-15 Thread Job Snijders
Hi Fred, On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 06:19:09PM +, Templin, Fred L wrote: > Is there interest in having a presentation about this in London next > week? ### Speaking as a working group participant. I'm not sure this is work that is a great fit for GROW. Since the work appears to be about a

Re: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network

2018-03-14 Thread Templin, Fred L
emp...@boeing.com>; Christopher Morrow <christopher.mor...@gmail.com> Cc: grow@ietf.org; Saccone, Gregory T <gregory.t.sacc...@boeing.com>; Gaurav Dawra <gdawra.i...@gmail.com> Subject: RE: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommuni

Re: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network

2018-03-14 Thread UTTARO, JAMES
ra <gdawra.i...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network Chris, I forgot to mention that one of the key requirements is that there be no dynamic routing protocol running over the air-to-ground data links.

Re: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network

2018-03-14 Thread Templin, Fred L
13, 2018 8:57 AM To: Christopher Morrow <christopher.mor...@gmail.com> Cc: grow@ietf.org; Saccone, Gregory T <gregory.t.sacc...@boeing.com>; Gaurav Dawra <gdawra.i...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications

Re: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network

2018-03-13 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
grow@ietf.org>, "Saccone, Gregory T" <gregory.t.sacc...@boeing.com>, Gaurav Dawra <gdawra.i...@gmail.com>, Acee Lindem <a...@cisco.com> Subject: RE: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network Hi Chris, >it's

Re: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network

2018-03-13 Thread Christopher Morrow
active (to me anyway). > > > > Again this still sounds like /2547 mpls vpn/ sorts of stuff, not > something super related to grow's 'global routing (internet focused) > operations' area, is it? > > in a 2547 sort of scenario (any of the vpn overlays really) the carrier >

Re: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network

2018-03-12 Thread Christopher Morrow
ed L <fred.l.temp...@boeing.com> > *Cc:* grow@ietf.org; Saccone, Gregory T <gregory.t.sacc...@boeing.com>; > Gaurav Dawra <gdawra.i...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the > Aeronautical Telecommunications Network > >

Re: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network

2018-03-12 Thread Templin, Fred L
[mailto:christopher.mor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 12:31 PM To: Templin, Fred L <fred.l.temp...@boeing.com> Cc: grow@ietf.org; Saccone, Gregory T <gregory.t.sacc...@boeing.com>; Gaurav Dawra <gdawra.i...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mob

Re: [GROW] A Simple BGP-based Mobile Routing System for the Aeronautical Telecommunications Network

2018-03-12 Thread Christopher Morrow
(as a normal participant) On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 3:14 PM, Templin, Fred L wrote: > Hello, > > We have published a document that proposes BGP as the core of a mobile > routing > service for worldwide civil aviation in the Aeronautical > Telecommunications Network >