On Thursday 13 December 2007 08:28, Dan H wrote:
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:26:25 -0700
Michael L Torrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GTKmm is based on some very nice C++ abstractions around pointers,
providing many of the same benefits as any managed language with
pure C++. They are called smart
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:26:25 -0700
Michael L Torrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GTKmm is based on some very nice C++ abstractions around pointers,
providing many of the same benefits as any managed language with
pure C++. They are called smart pointers and for GUI development,
they work very
On Saturday 24 November 2007 22:11, Patrick wrote:
Hi Everyone.
Sorry for the flame war bait, I know how passionate language debates
get but I need some guidance. I am using PyGTK right now and I am happy
with it, but a day is coming soon were the speed limitations...
You might like to look
On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 16:48 +, Jon Harrop wrote:
On Saturday 24 November 2007 22:11, Patrick wrote:
I thought that C++ must be the way to go as it can do everything that C
can plus plus but some heavy hitters don't seem enthused with it,
Linus Torvalds in particular has been quoted as
On Saturday 24 November 2007 22:11, Patrick wrote:
I thought that C++ must be the way to go as it can do everything that C
can plus plus but some heavy hitters don't seem enthused with it,
Linus Torvalds in particular has been quoted as calling it a horrible
language.
IIRC, Linus said that
Jon Harrop wrote:
On Saturday 24 November 2007 22:11, Patrick wrote:
I thought that C++ must be the way to go as it can do everything that C
can plus plus but some heavy hitters don't seem enthused with it,
Linus Torvalds in particular has been quoted as calling it a horrible
language.
:
Michael,
Thanks for the feedback, it seems we are on the same page on several counts.
James,
- Original Message
From: Michael L Torrie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gtk-app-devel-list@gnome.org
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 5:32:22 PM
Subject: Re: C vs C++ for GTK
JAMES SCOTT wrote
Around about 25/11/07 12:31, Benoît Dejean typed ...
I've switched gnome-system-monitor to C++ and i'm very happy with it.
Just out of interest, did you choose GTKmm or C++ with vanilla GTK+?
I'm looking at doing some GTK from C++ (I've previously only really used
GTK+ from C), and on
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:03:14 +0100
Tomas Carnecky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am I limited with C?
No, there are very few features in C++ that are hard/impossible to
imitate in C, but you usually won't need those for small projects.
In fact the GObject library (on which GTK is based) is an
2007/11/24, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Patrick,
I can only spend 8-12 hours a week programming, I am not a professional
programmer, is C++ to complicated? Is C going out of date? Am I limited
with C?
Before to switch to a new language are you sure that python is so slow
that you can't use
On 11/25/07, Benoît Dejean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le dimanche 25 novembre 2007 à 00:03 +0100, Tomas Carnecky a écrit :
Patrick wrote:
is C++ to complicated?
C++ is more complex than C, and thus harder to fully understand.
Is C going out of date?
No, it's still being used for lots
Le lundi 26 novembre 2007 à 15:56 +0100, Fernando Apesteguía a écrit :
On 11/25/07, Benoît Dejean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've switched gnome-system-monitor to C++ and i'm very happy with it.
It's still 95% Gtk + 5% Gtkmm
Two questions about the sentence above:
- What improvements or
Le dimanche 25 novembre 2007 à 10:47 +0100, Tomas Carnecky a écrit :
Allin Cottrell wrote:
One reason for going with C is that the great bulk of free
software is in C, including GLib and GTK. The main exception
is Qt, the basis for KDE. So if you might want to get into KDE
Le lundi 26 novembre 2007 à 08:39 +, Neil Bird a écrit :
Around about 25/11/07 12:31, Benoît Dejean typed ...
I've switched gnome-system-monitor to C++ and i'm very happy with it.
Just out of interest, did you choose GTKmm or C++ with vanilla GTK+?
As i didn't start from scratch,
Benoît Dejean wrote:
In fact the GObject library (on which GTK is based) is an example of
how full object-orientation can be achieved in C. Of course other C++
features like templates, operator overloading (ugh!) and namespaces
are unique.
This is totally a blocker for beginners. I've
Patrick wrote:
Hi Everyone.
Sorry for the flame war bait, I know how passionate language debates
get but I need some guidance. I am using PyGTK right now and I am happy
with it, but a day is coming soon were the speed limitations and
less-then-straight-forward threading will be an
Hi Micheal
Indeed, good advice!
I am planning on using Python for everything I can. I just need a little
extra speed for data collection and threading during collection.
I think I will learn C so that I can re-use code from other open source
projects.
All of this advice has been great,
- Forwarded Message
From: JAMES SCOTT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael L Torrie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 2:37:18 PM
Subject: Re: C vs C++ for GTK
To list members following this subject: I have a question - not a flame, as I
try to understand the diversity
JAMES SCOTT wrote:
To list members following this subject: I have a question - not a
flame, as I try to understand the diversity of responses to this
topic.
How many of you who have suggested Patrick learn something other
than C, know C already for yourself. Over the course of my
On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 12:04 +0100, Dan H wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:03:14 +0100
Tomas Carnecky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am I limited with C?
No, there are very few features in C++ that are hard/impossible to
imitate in C, but you usually won't need those for small projects.
In
Michael,
Thanks for the feedback, it seems we are on the same page on several counts.
James,
- Original Message
From: Michael L Torrie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gtk-app-devel-list@gnome.org
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 5:32:22 PM
Subject: Re: C vs C++ for GTK
JAMES SCOTT wrote
Allin Cottrell wrote:
One reason for going with C is that the great bulk of free
software is in C, including GLib and GTK. The main exception
is Qt, the basis for KDE. So if you might want to get into KDE
programming, maybe learning C++ would be better.
You can use gtk in C++, there's
Tomas Carnecky wrote:
Allin Cottrell wrote:
One reason for going with C is that the great bulk of free
software is in C, including GLib and GTK. The main exception
is Qt, the basis for KDE. So if you might want to get into KDE
programming, maybe learning C++ would be better.
You can
Le dimanche 25 novembre 2007 à 00:03 +0100, Tomas Carnecky a écrit :
Patrick wrote:
is C++ to complicated?
C++ is more complex than C, and thus harder to fully understand.
Is C going out of date?
No, it's still being used for lots of projects.
Am I limited with C?
No, there are
Hi Everyone.
Sorry for the flame war bait, I know how passionate language debates
get but I need some guidance. I am using PyGTK right now and I am happy
with it, but a day is coming soon were the speed limitations and
less-then-straight-forward threading will be an issue.
I figure my next
Patrick wrote:
is C++ to complicated?
C++ is more complex than C, and thus harder to fully understand.
Is C going out of date?
No, it's still being used for lots of projects.
Am I limited with C?
No, there are very few features in C++ that are hard/impossible to
imitate in C, but you usually
Not trying to start a language flame war but I always prefer Ada. And
no it hasn't gone
away either! ;-)
Chris
Patrick wrote:
is C++ to complicated?
C++ is more complex than C, and thus harder to fully understand.
Is C going out of date?
No, it's still being used for
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