Re: Misconduct of GTK+/glib Bugtracker Admins

2015-06-07 Thread IgnorantGuru
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Re: Misconduct of GTK+/glib Bugtracker Admins

2015-06-07 Thread Andy Tai
Right. What happens seems to be that because the Red Hat (or people working closely with them) are the main developers in gtk+, and they mainly work on GNOME, they naturally look at the needs of GNOME as the main driver for their work. It is hard to say they intentionally work against non-GNOME e

Re: Misconduct of GTK+/glib Bugtracker Admins

2015-06-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Dude, seriously. There is no conspiracy. Red Hat is not an evil empire. If you have a problem, spit it out already. Otherwise, ranting about how Red Hat is taking over the world!!1! is not doing anyone a favour. You've made your point. It would appear that people are not really in agreement with

Re: Misconduct of GTK+/glib Bugtracker Admins

2015-06-07 Thread IgnorantGuru
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 23:34:44 +0200 Gergely Polonkai wrote: > Hello, > > I didn’t really want you to believe me, I just shared my experiences, > that’s all. I got help several times from these “Red Hat employees” > before, although I wouldn’t say it came in an instant; I must confess > that someti

Re: Misconduct of GTK+/glib Bugtracker Admins

2015-06-07 Thread Gergely Polonkai
Hello, I didn’t really want you to believe me, I just shared my experiences, that’s all. I got help several times from these “Red Hat employees” before, although I wouldn’t say it came in an instant; I must confess that sometimes I bugged them or IRC before they answered my calls. The keywords her

Re: Misconduct of GTK+/glib Bugtracker Admins

2015-06-07 Thread IgnorantGuru
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 21:53:24 +0200 Gergely Polonkai wrote: > Hello, > > I’m sorry to say that, but I find your name very appropriate in this > case: *Ignorant* Guru. You seem to ignore every statement that says > something else that you do. > > GNOME is not a Red Hat product. It is a GNOME Found

Re: Misconduct of GTK+/glib Bugtracker Admins

2015-06-07 Thread IgnorantGuru
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 21:17:15 +0200 John Tall wrote: > On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 8:59 PM, IgnorantGuru > wrote: > > On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 19:25:56 +0200 > > John Tall wrote: > > > >> GTK+ is not a Red Hat project. > > > > Another good example here is this very complaint. A real free > > project would

Re: Misconduct of GTK+/glib Bugtracker Admins

2015-06-07 Thread Gergely Polonkai
Hello, I’m sorry to say that, but I find your name very appropriate in this case: *Ignorant* Guru. You seem to ignore every statement that says something else that you do. GNOME is not a Red Hat product. It is a GNOME Foundation product, if you want to put it anywhere. It is led by several develo

Re: Misconduct of GTK+/glib Bugtracker Admins

2015-06-07 Thread IgnorantGuru
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 21:20:52 +0200 (CEST) Lucas Levrel wrote: > Le 7 juin 2015, IgnorantGuru a écrit : > > > As for who agrees with me and who doesn't, outside of fanboy lists > > and such, most people I encounter are QUITE unhappy with GTK 3, and > > often ask why I use it at all. > > Indeed, c

Re: Misconduct of GTK+/glib Bugtracker Admins

2015-06-07 Thread Lucas Levrel
Le 7 juin 2015, IgnorantGuru a écrit : As for who agrees with me and who doesn't, outside of fanboy lists and such, most people I encounter are QUITE unhappy with GTK 3, and often ask why I use it at all. Indeed, can't you go back and use GTK 2 instead ? (Maybe does this bug exist in GTK2 as

Re: Misconduct of GTK+/glib Bugtracker Admins

2015-06-07 Thread John Tall
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 8:59 PM, IgnorantGuru wrote: > On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 19:25:56 +0200 > John Tall wrote: > >> GTK+ is not a Red Hat project. > > Another good example here is this very complaint. A real free project would > have developers who are held accountable for their actions. One reaso

Re: Misconduct of GTK+/glib Bugtracker Admins

2015-06-07 Thread IgnorantGuru
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 19:25:56 +0200 John Tall wrote: > GTK+ is not a Red Hat project. Another good example here is this very complaint. A real free project would have developers who are held accountable for their actions. One reason I sent this complaint to this list is because there's simply

Re: Misconduct of GTK+/glib Bugtracker Admins

2015-06-07 Thread IgnorantGuru
On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 19:25:56 +0200 John Tall wrote: > And you want the GNOME developers to support all of them? I want GTK+ developers to stick to GUI development with minimal dependencies, and certainly no DE-specific dependencies, and not engage the entire Red Hat stack in the GUI, as they've

Re: Misconduct of GTK+/glib Bugtracker Admins

2015-06-07 Thread John Tall
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 6:08 PM, IgnorantGuru wrote: > It’s not a question of whether I personally want to use systemd or > gvfs or Red Hat's tools, or even what conspiracies that > billion-dollar corporation may be involved with. But as an > independent FM developer using GTK as my GUI, I want my

Re: Misconduct of GTK+/glib Bugtracker Admins

2015-06-07 Thread IgnorantGuru
It’s not a question of whether I personally want to use systemd or gvfs or Red Hat's tools, or even what conspiracies that billion-dollar corporation may be involved with. But as an independent FM developer using GTK as my GUI, I want my software to be able to run on a wide variety of systems,