On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, John Ralls wrote:
> On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:50 AM, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Paul Davis wrote:
> >
> >> I do not believe that using a pre-built GTK OS X framework is
> >> desirable for users or developers. Incl
tk-app-devel
list. But...
> checking for GLIB - version >= 2.21.3... *** 'pkg-config
> --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.22.0, but GLIB (2.20.1) ***
> was found!
You have multiple versions of glib on your system. Time to clean
up.
Allin Cottrell
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version of a GTK app, in the way that "free previews" of some
commercial apps are shipped without the ability to save files.
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> I just built and installed the newly-announced glib-2.22.5 and
> gtk-2.18.8, and restarted X. After doing so, firefox 3.6 will
> not run; it reliably segfaults on startup. I then rebuilt
> and reinstalled glib-2.22.4 and gtk-2.18.7 and
is conditional on priv->buffer not being NULL.
If I conditionalize the second invocation in the same way firefox
does not crash.
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demo could be updated to use cairo
rather than the old gdk drawing mechanism -- particularly for
those of us who never truly understood the gdk mechanism but
managed to get by via copy-paste-and-modify from known good
sources!
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On Sun, 8 Aug 2010, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-08-08 at 10:19 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> > On Sat, 7 Aug 2010, Benjamin Otte wrote:
> >
> > > my rendering-cleanup work is pretty much done now...
> > >
> > > I'm still in the pr
eemed sensible, though not without problems for app developers.
I've now "cleaned up" my app so that it does not use GdkGC if GTK
is new enough. But my replacement code for GdkGC uses GdkPixmap --
and now we can't have that either?!
I think you guys need to call a halt some
R guys have
some packages at http://r.research.att.com/libs/ and maybe one
of them would be willing to do an "official" build.
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y GTK statistical app with my students, both PC and Mac
users, and the Mac users don't seem to have any special difficulty
with using it.
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out
an X11 build (taking at face value the statement on GTK-OSX that
the Quartz port is still immature). Building GTK+ for Windows is
not an easy task either, and it's _very_ helpful that app
developers are able to download a well-built runtime.
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Paul Davis wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 Aug 2010, Kristian Rietveld wrote:
> >
> >> For a GTK+ runtime package ("GTK+ Framework"), I think you should
> >> check out what has been d
#x27;m happy to select what I need from the run-time
zip archives for Windows. You have done us a major service by
making those archives available. I'd like to be able to do the
same for OS X (if a common runtime package for users is deemed
infeasible or undesirable).
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Paul Davis wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Tor Lillqvist wrote:
> >
> >> > It has certainly been explained that that is the situation on
> >> > Windows, and I fully accep
we also should explain that the X11
version of GTK+ works fine. X11 != Linux && Linux != Gnome.
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the errors I'm
getting from pkg-config when I try configuring GTK+ 2.22.0:
Requested 'glib-2.0 >= 2.25.10' but version of GLib is 2.24.2
Requested 'gdk-pixbuf-2.0 >= 2.21.0' but version of GdkPixbuf is
2.20.1
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> I've released a stable gdk-pixbuf 2.22 a few days ago, and a stable
> glib 2.26 should be out before the end of the week.
>
> On 9/23/10, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> >
> > If this is intended to be a "latest stable"
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010, Benjamin Otte wrote:
> the GTK API docs have an ever-expanding migration guide...
>
> GtkObject is gone
Is there any current documentation on how to use
gtk_adjustment_new? The doc for GTK+ 2.90.7 still says it returns
a pointer-to-GtkObject.
Allin
http://www.math.sci.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/~m-mat/MT/emt.html
Also, I'm wondering if the GLib implementation is up to date
with the code on the Hiroshima site, and if not, whether there
would be interest in updating it -- something that I could
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/libffi-3.0.9/include
>
>
> GISCAN PangoFT2-1.0.gir
> In file included from
> /TOOLCHAIN/src.pango.xfce.20110129.094436.1726.localhost/pango-1.28.3/pango/pango-ot.h:25:0,
> from :4:
> ../pango/pangofc-font.h:27:35: fatal error: fontconfig/fontconfig.h:
>
incoherent on the whole GTK stack. (E.g. "GLib
2.24.0 released, April 1, 2010: GLib 2.22 is a stable
release...").
It's lame, and totally unnecessary, to have this sort of confusion
on the primary gtk site.
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ny drop-down strings, but it does
have text in the entry: gtk_combo_box_text_get_active_text returns
NULL but if I get hold of the entry with gtk_bin_get_child and do
gtk_entry_get_text I can get the text OK.
Under the same conditions, gtk_combo_box_get_active_text works to
get the entry text in gtk
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011, joey kuo wrote:
> while I run configure in glib-1.2.5, I got error message saying "checking
> for extra flags to get ANSI library prototypes... configure: error: can not
> run test program while cross compiling".
google: cross-compiling g
+ Project"). The font
itself is fine, but I'd drop the black shadows for a cleaner and
non-pixelated look.
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you can attach any data you like to a gtk widget
using the function g_object_set_data() -- and can then retrieve it
with g_object_get_data(). See the section "The Base Object Type"
in the GObject Reference Manual.
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text concerning "older versions" dates back to the time
when 2.N was current. That is, the only earlier version explicitly
mentioned is 1.2: "Some applications still require GTK+ 1.2...".
It should probably be mentioned that _most_ GTK applications stil
, guys, and keep up the
cooperation!
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he glib build (as in
pkg-config --libs zlib, pkg-config --cflags zlib). The effect
of the calls to pkg-config is to define ZLIB_LIBS and
ZLIB_CFLAGS, but these could equally well be set manually.
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On Wed, 19 Oct 2011, Ryan Lortie wrote:
At long last, GLib 2.31.0 has been released.
Thanks, the change log is impressive! One question: should we
consider this release "latest stable GLib" or is the odd minor
version number a sign of work-in-progress?
Alli
pad with "wheel-type" scrolling via Trackpad.
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2011, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
Hi Allin,
(a) gtk-2.24.7 and friends (latest stable stack)
(b) gtk-3.2.1 and friends (again, all latest stable)
I can't detect any difference in the scrolling performance in the two cases;
it seems quite acceptable in both. This is on Linux 3.0.7,
one-trick ponies.
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(I don't know about your other question.)
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ot;release candidate" versions of third
party software. Right now, to build current pango you need an rc
version of fontconfig. To avoid that, drop back to the previous
pango release. (Pango's configure script is pretty tight-lipped
about dependency problems, which is not v
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On Sat, 2 Mar 2013, Paul Davis wrote:
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote:
I recently did a native quartz build of the GTK stack on OS X 10.6.8,
using gtk+-2.24.16 along with latest-stable versions of GLib and all other
dependencies (including FreeType 2.4.11 and fontconfig
tle before updating a binary release and keep an eye
open for bug reports.
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007, Jernej Simon+AQ0-i+AQ0- wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:23:12 -0400 (EDT), Allin Cottrell wrote:
>
> > (BTW, I searched today, and couldn't find a GTK 2.6 win32 binary
> > distribution anywhere. Tor has old stuff up to 2.4 archived, and
> >
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Kristian Rietveld wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 06:05:15PM -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> > My expectation: the unfinished edit will still be in place.
> >
> > Actual behaviour: the "bottles of coke" cell is as it was before I
> >
893
>
> This is a bug fix release in the 2.12 series.
I don't see anything in this message that would explain why the
2.12.6 tarball is over twice the size of the three previous
releases (31M for the tar.bz2). What's going on with that?
Thanks
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ok very nice now -- thanks to the people who
worked on them! --but they're uneven.
The Windows download page is correct (pointing to gnome.org) but
the Linux download page is not. Also, it would be nice if the
target platform for the respective d/l pages was stated
prominently on the
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Martyn Russell wrote:
> Allin Cottrell wrote:
> > The Windows download page is correct (pointing to gnome.org) but
> > the Linux download page is not.
>
> Hmm, do you mean that the Windows page links directly to a file to
> download, but the Linux
port c99. See
http://gcc.gnu.org/c99status.html
What many people really mean by "c99" these days is "the bits of
c99 that you might reasonably expect a modern compiler to support,
and never mind the other bits" (which, sadly, is a crap situation
for a standard to be in, al
ssibility that
GtkItemFactory will disappear: this API is not "evil voodoo", IMO,
and I don't suppose that mine is the only GTK 2 app that uses it
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before the last item, but this didn't do anything useful (it
inserted a minuscule horizontal line before the item).
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> Am Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:08:44 -0400 (EDT)
> schrieb Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Using GtkItemFactory one could push a certain menu to the
> > right-hand end of a menubar (i.e. right-justify it) using the
&
it
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through. This is _not_ an easy transition for an app with a
complex GUI, and that should count for something.
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, from a few days
ago. A distro such as Ubuntu, if it offers my app as a package,
is likely to offer a somewhat older version. And therefore it'll
be broken, if linked against current GTK 2.14.
And I suspect there are many others apps in a similar position.
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to build against the maximum range of GTK versions) has to write
their own such functions, which is surely less efficient.
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Michael Natterer wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 14:29 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Tor Lillqvist wrote:
> >
> > > > Any ideas on what's going on?
> > >
> > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?i
me myself). For one thing, one very nice
property of GTK from the point of view of an app developer is its
cross-platform nature.
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In my experience, it's much easier (if, in the end, less
satisfactory) to leave the auto* files with their *nix assumptions
and write a separate makefile for Windows.
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> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Rui Tiago Cação Matos
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2008/10/26 Thomas Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> 1. The window border theme parsing and displaying code should live in a
> >> library. (It already does, but its A
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, Iain * wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Rui Tiago Cação Matos
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2008/10/27 Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>> IMO decorating a window belongs in the WM, not all X applications use
> >&g
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Xavier Bestel wrote:
> Hi Allin,
>
> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 20:34 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> > 1) I like to run an analog clock on my desktop...
>
> Did you try cairo-clock ?
> http://macslow.thepimp.net/?page_id=23
Disclaimer: I'm an
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Thomas Thurman wrote:
> Ysgrifennodd Allin Cottrell:
> > On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Xavier Bestel wrote:
> > > Did you try cairo-clock ?
> > > http://macslow.thepimp.net/?page_id=23
> >
> > Disclaimer: I'm an old fart and a grouch. But
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Thomas Thurman wrote:
> Ysgrifennodd Allin Cottrell:
> > On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Thomas Thurman wrote:
> > > Who mentioned compiz? This was about reasons not to run metacity.
> >
> > Nobody explicitly mentioned compiz, but when I followed up the
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Thomas Thurman wrote:
> Ysgrifennodd Allin Cottrell:
> > "You are not running under a composited desktop-environment (e.g.
> > compiz). cairo-clock cannot work properly without one."
>
> I think you have compositing turned off. Do this:
&
> I've tried this and I had the same results.
"top" is not a leak detector. valgrind, which is what you should
be using, shows no leak on GTK's part in this example.
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2008, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-12-28 at 16:17 -0500, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> > When my app displays numerical output, I've been using a "real"
> > minus sign (U+2212) if the current font supports this (as checked
> > by pango),
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> >
> >> I judged it a devel issue because it raised a question about
> >> whether glib was doing the right thing in not conve
ich were
checked at compile time for GTK and friends. Now we have GTK
functions that may or may not work depending on unspecified
dependencies. Way NOT to go!
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2009, David Zeuthen wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 20:05 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> > I've recently been trying to purge my GTK app of "deprecated"
> > stuff, and I tried replacing gnome_url_show() with
> > gtk_show_uri(). No go; on invoking
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Alexander Larsson wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 10:43 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> > As it's currently coded gtk_show_uri is bound
> > to fail if GVfs is not present. But more than that: it'll fail
> > even if GVfs _is_ present (as i
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Alexander Larsson wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 12:29 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> > On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Alexander Larsson wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 10:43 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> > > > As it's currently coded
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Alexander Larsson wrote:
> 00, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> > On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Alexander Larsson wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 12:29 -0400, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Alexander Larsson wrote:
> > >
w_uri
which depends on a big stack of unspecified stuff? At least this
should be mentioned in the documentation. As I said before, up
till very recently one has been able to rely on GTK functions
"just working" so long as the compile-time dependencies are
satis
given up the right to sue, making this scenario
impossible.
OK, maybe there's no Monster Corp associated with D-BUS right now,
but we know there _are_ such monsters around. This seems to me a
_major_ reason to see *GPL as superior to AFL from the p.o.v. of
free software.
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> > IANAL, but... Hypothesis: Monster Corp distributes D-BUS under
> > AFL, while believing that DB in fact violates patents held by
> > Monster Corp. �MC then sues us
hin the application is also
desirable, and switching from GTK to native Windows widgets can be
jarring.
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> http://blogs.gnome.org/mortenw/2009/02/23/the-gtk-file-chooser-dialog-take-ii/
Planet sane. I use a couple of Linux boxes, one running
hand-rolled Linux and one running Ubuntu. I've never seen
anything remotely resembli
> But the problem isn't with rpaths. The problem is with path strings
> compiled into the library.
Those can be adjusted via environment variables and by using
relative paths in some of the config files. See
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/pub/gretl/osxbuild/build.pdf
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more of a app-developer thing than a UI matter: the lack of any
means of asking for a subset of fonts to be displayed, e.g.
monospaced, or Roman text.
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2009, Henrique Carvalho Alves wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Allin Cottrell wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 19 Jul 2009, Henrique Carvalho Alves wrote:
> >
> > > There was discussion on this some time ago, and the discussion
> > > got lost.
against (or possibly reconciled with) the desire of the toolkit
developers to seal everything off and no longer be bothered by us
pesky app developers.
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well.
These two responses (Cody's and Brian's) don't jive. Any more
clarification available? Thanks.
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GTK/OS X, and to provide a current pre-built GTK framework for
downloading, that could make a big difference.
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I've tried what I think is the only downloadable native package
(namely, the old Imendio one) but it's not good enough for
production use.
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gtk.org, one can select the
pre-built package that works best (i.e. "complete control over GTK
version"). It would be great to be able to do that with OS X too,
though of course I understand that Kris Rietveld casn't be
expected to do all the work this wou
ime I checked (on comp.lang.c) there was only one compiler
that does so, namely the Comeau one.
Look at http://gcc.gnu.org/c99status.html
In my view it's perfectly fine to insist on C90, but dangerous to
depend on C99 -- the latter is a de jure standard with no real de
facto implementatio
upports". That seems
to me not much of a standard.
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e who likes to prolesytize
GTK, it would be great to have a functional native GTK on OS X, and
not just for OS X 10.4.+
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editor from a Windows program you should either
* consult the win32 API (look for the CreateProcess function --
google "createprocess msdn"); or
* if you prefer to do it from within GTK, look up the g_spawn_*
family of functions in
le
app, but maybe I was wrong.
Anyway, this has nothing to do with GTK+...
Unless g_spawn* is relevant -- but anyway, no more postings on this
from me.
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precated.
GTK is getting bigger, so I can sort-of see the point of this
discussion, but it's not anywhere near the bloat factor of QT,
and hard drives are getting bigger too. I would put this idea
on the shelf for another several years.
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themselves in the foot, and anything that makes that less likely
is welcome. (In this context, shooting self in foot =
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terms of API. If you're distributing a GTK
program for Linux -- depending on a common, shared set of GTK
libraries -- you have to program defensively, trying to ensure
that your application will work correctly with the lowest common
denominator of (acceptable) GTK installations.
Allin Cot
cation supports 6 European languages, and I get by with a
much-reduced pango/locale payload.
Allin Cottrell
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, Christian Hammond wrote:
> I'm curious what the plans are for a GTK+ 2.10.7 release.
A bit late for that. See ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.10
GTK+ version 2.10.7 was released 2007/01/05. The current 2.10
release is 2.10.9 (2007/01/22).
Allin Cottrell
Wak
n error
message rather than a crash if I have failed to set things up just
right. (I mean, I'm fairly knowledgeable about this stuff, and my
installation is not just totally borked in some obvious way.)
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realized one can readily scroll through all 4000 rows.
On win32 (same machine, same source code) I can't scroll beyond row
1800 or so, and the scrolling behavior is strange/unstable.
Sometimes I'll get a big blank area; sometimes the scrolling stops
at row 800 or so.
Is this a k
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Tor Lillqvist wrote:
Allin Cottrell writes:
> On win32 (same machine, same source code) I can't scroll beyond row
> 1800 or so, and the scrolling behavior is strange/unstable.
> Sometimes I'll get a big blank area; sometimes the scrolling stops
> at row
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