Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-22 Thread Kristian Rietveld
Hey there, Replying to myself with a short status update: On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Kristian Rietveldk...@gtk.org wrote: - Implement class private data, bug 521707 has been filed for this and contains a patch.  I will give this a review and if the patch seems right get Tim to review it

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-20 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 22:58 +0100, Thomas Wood wrote: I've started putting a list together here: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/StyleProperties although, the page should probably be moved to a better location under GTK+ if someone could suggest one. maybe something like the page for the

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-20 Thread Thomas Wood
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 10:00 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 22:58 +0100, Thomas Wood wrote: I've started putting a list together here: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/StyleProperties although, the page should probably be moved to a better location under GTK+ if someone

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-20 Thread Thomas Wood
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 22:42 +0100, Thomas Wood wrote: I'd like to know what thoughts people have on a migration plan for GTK+ that involves moving to a new widget drawing library during the 3.0 cycle. Emmanuele has pointed out to me that 3.0 is still some way off (more than 6 months). With

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-20 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Thomas Woodt...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 10:00 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 22:58 +0100, Thomas Wood wrote: I've started putting a list together here: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/StyleProperties although, the page

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-20 Thread Thomas Wood
On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 14:26 +0100, Tommi Komulainen wrote: Before redoing all the work might be worthwhile to look at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes/GtkButton and similar pages. Well, not really. The above page is a list of style-properties, where as we were trying to

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-20 Thread Benjamin Berg
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 22:42 +0100, Thomas Wood wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 12:40 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: There's the issue of CSS though. Would it be acceptable to deprecate gtkrc's in the middle of the 3.0 cycle in favor of CSS theming files? This is an area where I'm pretty much

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-19 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2009/8/19 Cody Russell brats...@gnome.org: On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 15:27 -0700, Christian Hergert wrote: One of the items I haven't seen discussed is input validation.  Web frameworks such as Rails and Django spent a great deal of time making these easy to work with and I think that it should

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-19 Thread Kristian Rietveld
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Alberto Ruizar...@gnome.org wrote: 2009/8/14 Kristian Rietveld k...@gtk.org: As for theming, I've been discussing a bit with Thomas, Carlos and Cody. We have reached some sort of consensus that a backwards compatible path is possible adding a second vtable for

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-19 Thread Christian Hergert
Alberto Ruiz wrote: 2009/8/19 Cody Russellbrats...@gnome.org: On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 15:27 -0700, Christian Hergert wrote: One of the items I haven't seen discussed is input validation. Web frameworks such as Rails and Django spent a great deal of time making these easy to work with and I

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-19 Thread Kristian Rietveld
Hi, On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Christian Hergertch...@dronelabs.com wrote: One of the items I haven't seen discussed is input validation.  Web frameworks such as Rails and Django spent a great deal of time making these easy to work with and I think that it should be considered for gtk+

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-19 Thread Kristian Rietveld
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Alberto Ruizar...@gnome.org wrote: 2009/8/19 Cody Russell brats...@gnome.org: On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 15:27 -0700, Christian Hergert wrote: One of the items I haven't seen discussed is input validation.  Web frameworks such as Rails and Django spent a great deal

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-19 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2009/8/19 Kristian Rietveld k...@gtk.org: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Alberto Ruizar...@gnome.org wrote: 2009/8/19 Cody Russell brats...@gnome.org: On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 15:27 -0700, Christian Hergert wrote: One of the items I haven't seen discussed is input validation.  Web frameworks

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-19 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2009/8/19 Kristian Rietveld k...@gtk.org: On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Alberto Ruizar...@gnome.org wrote: 2009/8/14 Kristian Rietveld k...@gtk.org: As for theming, I've been discussing a bit with Thomas, Carlos and Cody. We have reached some sort of consensus that a backwards compatible

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-19 Thread Thomas Wood
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 12:40 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: As for theming, I've been discussing a bit with Thomas, Carlos and Cody. We have reached some sort of consensus that a backwards compatible path is possible adding a second vtable for engines, checking the vtable size and working out a

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-19 Thread Thomas Wood
On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 13:25 +0200, Kristian Rietveld wrote: Great to know that progress is being made here. Trying things out definitely sounds like a good idea. Even though we are now not planning to deprecate GtkStyle in 3.0, we should have an idea whether just sealing it will provide

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-18 Thread Christian Hergert
Hello, One of the items I haven't seen discussed is input validation. Web frameworks such as Rails and Django spent a great deal of time making these easy to work with and I think that it should be considered for gtk+ 3.0. FWIW, I hacked up a crude idea[1] a few months ago. If others

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-18 Thread Cody Russell
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 15:27 -0700, Christian Hergert wrote: One of the items I haven't seen discussed is input validation. Web frameworks such as Rails and Django spent a great deal of time making these easy to work with and I think that it should be considered for gtk+ 3.0. I only

Re: Notes and thoughts on the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC

2009-08-14 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2009/8/14 Kristian Rietveld k...@gtk.org: Hi All, A different way to start working on the new features is to decide on a feature set first, research the features and (if required) make required changes *before* an ABI frozen GTK+ 3.0 is put out.  This brings up the next question: what