GTK+ with Broadway.
Hi, I'm trying to change the cursor when it is over certain widget and do not succeed to do that when I'm working with GTK+ via Broadway. Without Broadway it works perfectly. Somebody knows about limitation for this case ? Thanks, Igor ___ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
Re: GTK+ with Broadway
Yes it is. Do something like: ssh -C -L 1:127.0.0.1:1 me@remote_broadway_server I also posted recently on a way to get multiplexed connections and SSL/TLS termination: https://tesla.duckdns.org/transparent-proxy-for-broadway-gtk3-html5-backend/ I'm trying to make some time to implement a complete solution, with an authentication+cookie database and configurable redirection ( ie to multiple broadway applications ), but free time is hard to come by. Dan On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 2:01 AM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Is it possible to forward connection from web browser to Broadway display > server via SSH ? > > Thanks, > Igor > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Daniel Kasak <d.j.kasak...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Unfortunately, no there is no way to do this. *If* copy + paste were >> implemented between a broadway app and the browser, then you could at >> least push a link to a file to download into the browser, and the user >> could copy it and paste it into a new tab. Anyway, copy + paste is not >> implemented yet ( Hi devs ... if this is easy, it would be pretty >> damned handy ). >> >> I haven't had to do anything like this yet, but if I had to tomorrow, >> I'd get users to enter an email address in a config screen, and I'd >> email documents or links to downloads to them. Not ideal, I know. >> >> Dan >> >> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I'm working with GTK+ via Broadway. >> > I need to upload and save some file on local computer (which run >> > browser). >> > Can I do in this mode that and how ? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Igor >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Dan, >> >> >> >> I don't need real time graphing or something like that. It should work >> >> only after triggers from user. >> >> >> >> I don't remember exactly which feature was missed. I'll recheck. >> >> >> >> Your inputs are optimistic :-) >> >> >> >> Thanks a lot for the help. >> >> Igor >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Daniel Kasak <d.j.kasak...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> > Hi, >> >>> > >> >>> > Thanks for prompt reply. >> >>> > >> >>> > Yes, I have couple of specific concerns: >> >>> > 1. Performance. I'm not looking for something special but expect >> >>> > something >> >>> > reasonable. My few experiments show >> >>> > that performance may be too low. >> >>> >> >>> I haven't seen bad performance in terms of user experience, though I >> >>> have noticed high CPU usage in the broadwayd process(es). My very >> >>> rough guess is that you can support somewhere between 2-3 times the >> >>> number of active users as CPU cores on your system before users start >> >>> to notice. I've never done any stress-testing to see what exactly >> >>> would happened if you pushed this limit. I guess if you're trying to >> >>> deliver to more users than this model supports, you're entering "real" >> >>> web-app development. Out of interest, what kind of applications are >> >>> you considering distributing? >> >>> >> >>> It will depend a lot on what your app is doing I guess. Real-time >> >>> graphing or apps where there is constant rendering happening ( eg text >> >>> flying past in a log viewer ) will consume a lot more CPU than an app >> >>> that sits still and waits for a user to do something. >> >>> >> >>> I've also noticed that broadway gives a much better experience than >> >>> VNC. VNC is laggy and has rendering glitches. Broadway is pretty >> >>> impressive under conditions where VNC degrades badly. >> >>> >> >>> > 2. Reduced feature set, comparing to GTK without broadway. I found >> >>> > few >> >>> > minor >> >>> > differences but this makes me afraid that it might be more. >> >>> >> >>> I haven't noticed any reduced features at all. You may hav
Re: GTK+ with Broadway
Hi, Is it possible to forward connection from web browser to Broadway display server via SSH ? Thanks, Igor On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Daniel Kasak <d.j.kasak...@gmail.com> wrote: > Unfortunately, no there is no way to do this. *If* copy + paste were > implemented between a broadway app and the browser, then you could at > least push a link to a file to download into the browser, and the user > could copy it and paste it into a new tab. Anyway, copy + paste is not > implemented yet ( Hi devs ... if this is easy, it would be pretty > damned handy ). > > I haven't had to do anything like this yet, but if I had to tomorrow, > I'd get users to enter an email address in a config screen, and I'd > email documents or links to downloads to them. Not ideal, I know. > > Dan > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm working with GTK+ via Broadway. > > I need to upload and save some file on local computer (which run > browser). > > Can I do in this mode that and how ? > > > > Thanks, > > Igor > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Dan, > >> > >> I don't need real time graphing or something like that. It should work > >> only after triggers from user. > >> > >> I don't remember exactly which feature was missed. I'll recheck. > >> > >> Your inputs are optimistic :-) > >> > >> Thanks a lot for the help. > >> Igor > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Daniel Kasak <d.j.kasak...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > Hi, > >>> > > >>> > Thanks for prompt reply. > >>> > > >>> > Yes, I have couple of specific concerns: > >>> > 1. Performance. I'm not looking for something special but expect > >>> > something > >>> > reasonable. My few experiments show > >>> > that performance may be too low. > >>> > >>> I haven't seen bad performance in terms of user experience, though I > >>> have noticed high CPU usage in the broadwayd process(es). My very > >>> rough guess is that you can support somewhere between 2-3 times the > >>> number of active users as CPU cores on your system before users start > >>> to notice. I've never done any stress-testing to see what exactly > >>> would happened if you pushed this limit. I guess if you're trying to > >>> deliver to more users than this model supports, you're entering "real" > >>> web-app development. Out of interest, what kind of applications are > >>> you considering distributing? > >>> > >>> It will depend a lot on what your app is doing I guess. Real-time > >>> graphing or apps where there is constant rendering happening ( eg text > >>> flying past in a log viewer ) will consume a lot more CPU than an app > >>> that sits still and waits for a user to do something. > >>> > >>> I've also noticed that broadway gives a much better experience than > >>> VNC. VNC is laggy and has rendering glitches. Broadway is pretty > >>> impressive under conditions where VNC degrades badly. > >>> > >>> > 2. Reduced feature set, comparing to GTK without broadway. I found > few > >>> > minor > >>> > differences but this makes me afraid that it might be more. > >>> > >>> I haven't noticed any reduced features at all. You may have to set > >>> some environment variables to activate things like gtk+ themes and > >>> icon packs, but I haven't found anything with broadway that doesn't > >>> work as I expect from a regular X11 experience. What differences have > >>> you seen? If it's just things like icon packs, it might be worth > >>> documenting what's needed to get on-par with X11. > >>> > >>> Dan > >>> > >>> > > >>> > Thanks, > >>> > Igor > >>> > > >>> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 1:21 AM, Daniel Kasak < > d.j.kasak...@gmail.com> > >>> > wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> I've been using it on+off for a couple of years. As far as widget > >>> >> toolkit functionality goes, it's a stable platform for me.
Re: GTK+ with Broadway
Unfortunately, no there is no way to do this. *If* copy + paste were implemented between a broadway app and the browser, then you could at least push a link to a file to download into the browser, and the user could copy it and paste it into a new tab. Anyway, copy + paste is not implemented yet ( Hi devs ... if this is easy, it would be pretty damned handy ). I haven't had to do anything like this yet, but if I had to tomorrow, I'd get users to enter an email address in a config screen, and I'd email documents or links to downloads to them. Not ideal, I know. Dan On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm working with GTK+ via Broadway. > I need to upload and save some file on local computer (which run browser). > Can I do in this mode that and how ? > > Thanks, > Igor > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Dan, >> >> I don't need real time graphing or something like that. It should work >> only after triggers from user. >> >> I don't remember exactly which feature was missed. I'll recheck. >> >> Your inputs are optimistic :-) >> >> Thanks a lot for the help. >> Igor >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Daniel Kasak <d.j.kasak...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > Thanks for prompt reply. >>> > >>> > Yes, I have couple of specific concerns: >>> > 1. Performance. I'm not looking for something special but expect >>> > something >>> > reasonable. My few experiments show >>> > that performance may be too low. >>> >>> I haven't seen bad performance in terms of user experience, though I >>> have noticed high CPU usage in the broadwayd process(es). My very >>> rough guess is that you can support somewhere between 2-3 times the >>> number of active users as CPU cores on your system before users start >>> to notice. I've never done any stress-testing to see what exactly >>> would happened if you pushed this limit. I guess if you're trying to >>> deliver to more users than this model supports, you're entering "real" >>> web-app development. Out of interest, what kind of applications are >>> you considering distributing? >>> >>> It will depend a lot on what your app is doing I guess. Real-time >>> graphing or apps where there is constant rendering happening ( eg text >>> flying past in a log viewer ) will consume a lot more CPU than an app >>> that sits still and waits for a user to do something. >>> >>> I've also noticed that broadway gives a much better experience than >>> VNC. VNC is laggy and has rendering glitches. Broadway is pretty >>> impressive under conditions where VNC degrades badly. >>> >>> > 2. Reduced feature set, comparing to GTK without broadway. I found few >>> > minor >>> > differences but this makes me afraid that it might be more. >>> >>> I haven't noticed any reduced features at all. You may have to set >>> some environment variables to activate things like gtk+ themes and >>> icon packs, but I haven't found anything with broadway that doesn't >>> work as I expect from a regular X11 experience. What differences have >>> you seen? If it's just things like icon packs, it might be worth >>> documenting what's needed to get on-par with X11. >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > Igor >>> > >>> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 1:21 AM, Daniel Kasak <d.j.kasak...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> I've been using it on+off for a couple of years. As far as widget >>> >> toolkit functionality goes, it's a stable platform for me. Security is >>> >> not handled by broadway, except for basic password authentication ( 1 >>> >> password per linux user who runs broadway apps ). I posted on this >>> >> topic a little while back: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> http://tesla.duckdns.org/transparent-proxy-for-broadway-gtk3-html5-backend/ >>> >> >>> >> Are you after some info in particular? >>> >> >>> >> Dan >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> > Hi, >>> >> > >>> >> > I wonder if someone have practical experience with GTK+ with >>> >> > Broadway. >>> >> > I'll be glad to have feedback. >>> >> > >>> >> > Thanks >>> >> > Igor >>> >> > >>> >> > ___ >>> >> > gtk-list mailing list >>> >> > gtk-list@gnome.org >>> >> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list >>> >> > >>> > >>> > >> >> > > > ___ > gtk-list mailing list > gtk-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list > ___ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
Re: GTK+ with Broadway
Hi, I'm working with GTK+ via Broadway. I need to upload and save some file on local computer (which run browser). Can I do in this mode that and how ? Thanks, Igor On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Dan, > > I don't need real time graphing or something like that. It should work > only after triggers from user. > > I don't remember exactly which feature was missed. I'll recheck. > > Your inputs are optimistic :-) > > Thanks a lot for the help. > Igor > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Daniel Kasak <d.j.kasak...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > Thanks for prompt reply. >> > >> > Yes, I have couple of specific concerns: >> > 1. Performance. I'm not looking for something special but expect >> something >> > reasonable. My few experiments show >> > that performance may be too low. >> >> I haven't seen bad performance in terms of user experience, though I >> have noticed high CPU usage in the broadwayd process(es). My very >> rough guess is that you can support somewhere between 2-3 times the >> number of active users as CPU cores on your system before users start >> to notice. I've never done any stress-testing to see what exactly >> would happened if you pushed this limit. I guess if you're trying to >> deliver to more users than this model supports, you're entering "real" >> web-app development. Out of interest, what kind of applications are >> you considering distributing? >> >> It will depend a lot on what your app is doing I guess. Real-time >> graphing or apps where there is constant rendering happening ( eg text >> flying past in a log viewer ) will consume a lot more CPU than an app >> that sits still and waits for a user to do something. >> >> I've also noticed that broadway gives a much better experience than >> VNC. VNC is laggy and has rendering glitches. Broadway is pretty >> impressive under conditions where VNC degrades badly. >> >> > 2. Reduced feature set, comparing to GTK without broadway. I found few >> minor >> > differences but this makes me afraid that it might be more. >> >> I haven't noticed any reduced features at all. You may have to set >> some environment variables to activate things like gtk+ themes and >> icon packs, but I haven't found anything with broadway that doesn't >> work as I expect from a regular X11 experience. What differences have >> you seen? If it's just things like icon packs, it might be worth >> documenting what's needed to get on-par with X11. >> >> Dan >> >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Igor >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 1:21 AM, Daniel Kasak <d.j.kasak...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I've been using it on+off for a couple of years. As far as widget >> >> toolkit functionality goes, it's a stable platform for me. Security is >> >> not handled by broadway, except for basic password authentication ( 1 >> >> password per linux user who runs broadway apps ). I posted on this >> >> topic a little while back: >> >> >> >> http://tesla.duckdns.org/transparent-proxy-for-broadway- >> gtk3-html5-backend/ >> >> >> >> Are you after some info in particular? >> >> >> >> Dan >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > I wonder if someone have practical experience with GTK+ with >> Broadway. >> >> > I'll be glad to have feedback. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks >> >> > Igor >> >> > >> >> > ___ >> >> > gtk-list mailing list >> >> > gtk-list@gnome.org >> >> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > ___ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
Re: GTK+ with Broadway
Hi Dan, I don't need real time graphing or something like that. It should work only after triggers from user. I don't remember exactly which feature was missed. I'll recheck. Your inputs are optimistic :-) Thanks a lot for the help. Igor On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Daniel Kasak <d.j.kasak...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Thanks for prompt reply. > > > > Yes, I have couple of specific concerns: > > 1. Performance. I'm not looking for something special but expect > something > > reasonable. My few experiments show > > that performance may be too low. > > I haven't seen bad performance in terms of user experience, though I > have noticed high CPU usage in the broadwayd process(es). My very > rough guess is that you can support somewhere between 2-3 times the > number of active users as CPU cores on your system before users start > to notice. I've never done any stress-testing to see what exactly > would happened if you pushed this limit. I guess if you're trying to > deliver to more users than this model supports, you're entering "real" > web-app development. Out of interest, what kind of applications are > you considering distributing? > > It will depend a lot on what your app is doing I guess. Real-time > graphing or apps where there is constant rendering happening ( eg text > flying past in a log viewer ) will consume a lot more CPU than an app > that sits still and waits for a user to do something. > > I've also noticed that broadway gives a much better experience than > VNC. VNC is laggy and has rendering glitches. Broadway is pretty > impressive under conditions where VNC degrades badly. > > > 2. Reduced feature set, comparing to GTK without broadway. I found few > minor > > differences but this makes me afraid that it might be more. > > I haven't noticed any reduced features at all. You may have to set > some environment variables to activate things like gtk+ themes and > icon packs, but I haven't found anything with broadway that doesn't > work as I expect from a regular X11 experience. What differences have > you seen? If it's just things like icon packs, it might be worth > documenting what's needed to get on-par with X11. > > Dan > > > > > Thanks, > > Igor > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 1:21 AM, Daniel Kasak <d.j.kasak...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> I've been using it on+off for a couple of years. As far as widget > >> toolkit functionality goes, it's a stable platform for me. Security is > >> not handled by broadway, except for basic password authentication ( 1 > >> password per linux user who runs broadway apps ). I posted on this > >> topic a little while back: > >> > >> http://tesla.duckdns.org/transparent-proxy-for- > broadway-gtk3-html5-backend/ > >> > >> Are you after some info in particular? > >> > >> Dan > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I wonder if someone have practical experience with GTK+ with Broadway. > >> > I'll be glad to have feedback. > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > Igor > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > gtk-list mailing list > >> > gtk-list@gnome.org > >> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list > >> > > > > > > ___ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
Re: GTK+ with Broadway
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for prompt reply. > > Yes, I have couple of specific concerns: > 1. Performance. I'm not looking for something special but expect something > reasonable. My few experiments show > that performance may be too low. I haven't seen bad performance in terms of user experience, though I have noticed high CPU usage in the broadwayd process(es). My very rough guess is that you can support somewhere between 2-3 times the number of active users as CPU cores on your system before users start to notice. I've never done any stress-testing to see what exactly would happened if you pushed this limit. I guess if you're trying to deliver to more users than this model supports, you're entering "real" web-app development. Out of interest, what kind of applications are you considering distributing? It will depend a lot on what your app is doing I guess. Real-time graphing or apps where there is constant rendering happening ( eg text flying past in a log viewer ) will consume a lot more CPU than an app that sits still and waits for a user to do something. I've also noticed that broadway gives a much better experience than VNC. VNC is laggy and has rendering glitches. Broadway is pretty impressive under conditions where VNC degrades badly. > 2. Reduced feature set, comparing to GTK without broadway. I found few minor > differences but this makes me afraid that it might be more. I haven't noticed any reduced features at all. You may have to set some environment variables to activate things like gtk+ themes and icon packs, but I haven't found anything with broadway that doesn't work as I expect from a regular X11 experience. What differences have you seen? If it's just things like icon packs, it might be worth documenting what's needed to get on-par with X11. Dan > > Thanks, > Igor > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 1:21 AM, Daniel Kasak <d.j.kasak...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> I've been using it on+off for a couple of years. As far as widget >> toolkit functionality goes, it's a stable platform for me. Security is >> not handled by broadway, except for basic password authentication ( 1 >> password per linux user who runs broadway apps ). I posted on this >> topic a little while back: >> >> http://tesla.duckdns.org/transparent-proxy-for-broadway-gtk3-html5-backend/ >> >> Are you after some info in particular? >> >> Dan >> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I wonder if someone have practical experience with GTK+ with Broadway. >> > I'll be glad to have feedback. >> > >> > Thanks >> > Igor >> > >> > ___ >> > gtk-list mailing list >> > gtk-list@gnome.org >> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list >> > > > ___ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
Re: GTK+ with Broadway
Hi, Thanks for prompt reply. Yes, I have couple of specific concerns: 1. Performance. I'm not looking for something special but expect something reasonable. My few experiments show that performance may be too low. 2. Reduced feature set, comparing to GTK without broadway. I found few minor differences but this makes me afraid that it might be more. Thanks, Igor On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 1:21 AM, Daniel Kasak <d.j.kasak...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've been using it on+off for a couple of years. As far as widget > toolkit functionality goes, it's a stable platform for me. Security is > not handled by broadway, except for basic password authentication ( 1 > password per linux user who runs broadway apps ). I posted on this > topic a little while back: > http://tesla.duckdns.org/transparent-proxy-for- > broadway-gtk3-html5-backend/ > > Are you after some info in particular? > > Dan > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I wonder if someone have practical experience with GTK+ with Broadway. > > I'll be glad to have feedback. > > > > Thanks > > Igor > > > > ___ > > gtk-list mailing list > > gtk-list@gnome.org > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list > > > ___ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
Re: GTK+ with Broadway
I've been using it on+off for a couple of years. As far as widget toolkit functionality goes, it's a stable platform for me. Security is not handled by broadway, except for basic password authentication ( 1 password per linux user who runs broadway apps ). I posted on this topic a little while back: http://tesla.duckdns.org/transparent-proxy-for-broadway-gtk3-html5-backend/ Are you after some info in particular? Dan On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Igor D <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder if someone have practical experience with GTK+ with Broadway. > I'll be glad to have feedback. > > Thanks > Igor > > ___ > gtk-list mailing list > gtk-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list > ___ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
GTK+ with Broadway
Hi, I wonder if someone have practical experience with GTK+ with Broadway. I'll be glad to have feedback. Thanks Igor ___ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
Using GTK+ with Broadway
Hi all, I consider to use GTK+ with Broadway for development of device control application. Device is with functionality similar to broadband modem/router (I intentionally selected example which is familiar for all :-) ). Device should be controlled remotely via web browser. My concern is about performance of such control. I'm afraid that Broadway may be a bottleneck. Probably I'm wrong but even in simple pilot I built it looks not so good. It will be very appreciated to have your inputs based on real experience. Thanks a lot, Igor ___ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list