Re: Block a signal for a hierarchy of widget

[Paul Davis]

let's take the example of a button. the button may serve one or both of two
purposes:

1) to provide a target for the user to operate on in order to change
the state of some part of the "model" within the program (e.g. the state of
some variable) - for example, by clicking/pressing it
2) to indicate the current state of the "model" (e.g. a variable)

if the button serves both purposes, then its visual state should change
whenever the model changes. other aspects of the program should care about
the state of the model, not the button's state.

GTK makes this tricky because it tends to encourage you to use the button
state as the model state (i.e. when checking if the user has "set X to
true", you tend to check whether the button is pressed or not, rather than
whether some independent value is true or not).

so there are now two possible designs:

   a) the state of the button IS the "model" state
   b) the button is merely a view and a controller for the "model" state
(i.e. a variable somewhere)

if (a) is true, then changing the state of the button, whether done by the
user or programatically because of some internal logic, results in a change
in the model state. anything interested in the model state will have
connected to the button signals, and will want to know about this change.
blocking the signal implies that you are trying to hide a change in the
state of the model from other objects/methods who have stated their
interest in knowing when it changes - this can hardly be a good thing.

if (b) is true, then things interested in the model state will ignore the
button state itself, and focus on notifications about changes in the model
state (e.g. some other variable)

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Emmanuel Pacaud  wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> Le mer. 19 avril 2017 à 20:57, Paul Davis  a
> écrit :
>
>> This normally means that you're not using appropriate
>> model-view-controller design.
>>
>
> Could you elaborate a bit ? I fail to see where the design of my
> application could solve this issue I have with the use of Gtk.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Emmanuel.
>
>
>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Emmanuel Pacaud 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is there a way to unblock/block the emission of signals for a hierarchy
>>> of widgets ?
>>>
>>> The reason I'm asking is because of this sort of code I'm using:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/AravisProject/aravis/blob/master/viewer/
>>> arvviewer.c#L588
>>>
>>> It is not very convenient and error prone to register every connected
>>> signals and block/unblock them when one want to update some widgets
>>> programmatically.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Emmanuel.
>>>
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Re: Block a signal for a hierarchy of widget

[Emmanuel Pacaud]

Hi Paul,

Le mer. 19 avril 2017 à 20:57, Paul Davis  
a écrit :
This normally means that you're not using appropriate 
model-view-controller design.


Could you elaborate a bit ? I fail to see where the design of my 
application could solve this issue I have with the use of Gtk.


Cheers,

Emmanuel.


On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Emmanuel Pacaud  
wrote:

Hi,

Is there a way to unblock/block the emission of signals for a 
hierarchy of widgets ?


The reason I'm asking is because of this sort of code I'm using:

https://github.com/AravisProject/aravis/blob/master/viewer/arvviewer.c#L588

It is not very convenient and error prone to register every 
connected signals and block/unblock them when one want to update 
some widgets programmatically.


Cheers,

Emmanuel.

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Re: Block a signal for a hierarchy of widget

[Paul Davis]

This normally means that you're not using appropriate model-view-controller
design.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Emmanuel Pacaud  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to unblock/block the emission of signals for a hierarchy of
> widgets ?
>
> The reason I'm asking is because of this sort of code I'm using:
>
> https://github.com/AravisProject/aravis/blob/master/viewer/
> arvviewer.c#L588
>
> It is not very convenient and error prone to register every connected
> signals and block/unblock them when one want to update some widgets
> programmatically.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Emmanuel.
>
> ___
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> gtk-list@gnome.org
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