guys, I knew my last post (dreamy dreamland) would stir some flame, but to this point? even the list software abhorred me and thus left me without my dear digest! it went from 469 directly to 471, so, will any kind soul receiving it (and still talking to me) please take a moment to email me a copy of digest 470? I promise I won't say anything else that pisses our bikes off!! (but now that they're not listening, don't know what the mags say, but I know what I've tested and the R1 I took for a spin would seriously outbrake my GTS, yes sir. I wonder if it's the wooden brake pads I carve myself...) later, Roberto PS: hey Jim, still got 'em helis? if you do, it's transaction time! drop me a line, will you?