Re: [guadec-list] anti-harassment policy

2014-07-14 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Marina Zhurakhinskaya marina...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Hi Marina, The majority of the board voted for the long version of the code of conduct for GUADEC to be posted. We really appreciate all the work done by the organizers, but people who voted in favor feel

Re: [guadec-list] anti-harassment policy

2014-07-14 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:13:01PM +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote: I've discussed this in private one-to-one conversations with several organization team members and everyone is uncomfortable with having such a policy. I'm uncomfortable attending a conference run by people who feel

Re: [guadec-list] anti-harassment policy

2014-07-14 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: I'm uncomfortable attending a conference run by people who feel uncomfortable with having such a policy. Such policies have proven more effective than generic Be friendly policies in creating an atmosphere of safety,

Re: [guadec-list] anti-harassment policy

2014-07-14 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 03:57:27PM +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote: Have you been to FOSDEM? Not since I started caring about conferences having useful CoCs. Have there been complaints about the FOSDEM policy not being enough or people boycotting the FOSDEM because of the lack of a stronger

Re: [guadec-list] anti-harassment policy

2014-07-14 Thread meg ford
Hi, On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: You're using an argument that's been rightfully dismissed when used the other way around. If harassment was such a big problem, I would have heard about it. We've had to adopt CoCs for a few different groups

Re: [guadec-list] anti-harassment policy

2014-07-14 Thread meg ford
Sorry, my previous email contained the wrong attribution for the quote On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 03:57:27PM +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote: You're using an argument that's been rightfully dismissed when used the other way around. If harassment was such a big problem, I would have heard about

Re: [guadec-list] anti-harassment policy

2014-07-14 Thread Pascal Terjan
On 14 July 2014 14:08, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:13:01PM +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote: I've discussed this in private one-to-one conversations with several organization team members and everyone is uncomfortable with having such a policy. I'm

Re: [guadec-list] anti-harassment policy

2014-07-14 Thread Alexandre Franke
First of all, I'm pretty sure nobody in this discussion said there should be no policy *at all*. There seems to be a misunderstanding that this discussion is between those for a policy vs those against any form of policy and it is not. Maybe those advocating a strong policy could use a moment to

Re: [guadec-list] anti-harassment policy

2014-07-14 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 05:22:07PM +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote: First of all, I'm pretty sure nobody in this discussion said there should be no policy *at all*. There seems to be a misunderstanding that this discussion is between those for a policy vs those against any form of policy and it