Re: Logo baseline

2020-01-20 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello,

Arne Babenhauserheide  skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès  writes:
>> Like I wrote, Guile remains an extension language, no argument here.
>>
>> However, describing it as “just” an extension language seems odd to me.
>> It doesn’t take into account what many have been doing with Guile, and
>> it doesn’t match the efforts that have gone into Guile since 2.0.
>
> I don’t think that it is described as "just" an extension language. The
> website makes it very clear that Guile is also a viable application
> language.
>
> Where do you get the impression that Guile is described as "just" an
> extension language?

This thread is about the logo baseline, which is: “GNU extension
language”.  I agree that the web site is clearer; I’m just talking about
the logo here.

>>> Actually I’d love to see Guile become better at this: to make it easier
>>> to deploy an application that uses Guile in a statically compiled
>>> binary.
>>>
>>> Basically to generalize what LilyPond is doing.
>>
>> In what ways could it become “better” for this use case?
>
> Currently the default way to embed assumes that Guile is provided as a
> shared library. But that can be problematic when you want to ship a
> binary people can test easily.

I think this is no different for Guile than for any other piece of
software: some would ship a Docker image, and I’d argue that you can use
‘guix pack’ to generate a minimal standalone tarball or Docker image.

(Though I think it’s also perfectly doable to provide a binary that’s
statically-linked against libguile.)

Thanks,
Ludo’.



Re: Segfault while building on 64-bit Cygwin

2020-01-20 Thread John Cowan
Yes, gladly, but I don't know how to get one in this context.  Do I need to
add some flags to the Makefile, and if so, where?  (It's a twisty maze of
passages, all different.) . Note that this *is* a build with JIT enabled;
when I disable it using the env variable, there are no errors and 3.0.0
works fine.

Also, it may take some time, as I have to rebuild my Windows system.


Segfault while building on 64-bit Cygwin

2020-01-20 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi John,

John Cowan  skribis:

> Guile 2.9.9, like .8 and .7, does not build on Cygwin (64 bit).  Configure
> runs without error, but make crashes with this (truncated to just the tail):
>
> Making all in bootstrap
> make[2]: Entering directory
> '/cygdrive/c/Users/rr828893/Downloads/guile-2.9.9/bootstrap'
>   BOOTSTRAP GUILEC ice-9/eval.go
>   BOOTSTRAP GUILEC ice-9/psyntax-pp.go
>   BOOTSTRAP GUILEC language/cps/intmap.go
>   BOOTSTRAP GUILEC language/cps/intset.go
>   BOOTSTRAP GUILEC language/cps/graphs.go
>   BOOTSTRAP GUILEC ice-9/vlist.go
>   BOOTSTRAP GUILEC srfi/srfi-1.go
> /bin/sh: line 6:  4294 Segmentation fault  (core dumped)
> GUILE_AUTO_COMPILE=0 ../meta/build-env guild compile
> --target="x86_64-unknown-cygwin" -O1 -Oresolve-primitives -L
> "/home/rr828893/Downloads/guile-2.9.9/module" -L
> "/home/rr828893/Downloads/guile-2.9.9/guile-readline" -o "srfi/srfi-1.go"
> "../module/srfi/srfi-1.scm"
> make[2]: *** [Makefile:1930: srfi/srfi-1.go] Error 139
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> '/cygdrive/c/Users/rr828893/Downloads/guile-2.9.9/bootstrap'
> make[1]: *** [Makefile:1849: all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> '/cygdrive/c/Users/rr828893/Downloads/guile-2.9.9'
> make: *** [Makefile:1735: all] Error 2

Could you try building 3.0.0 with JIT enabled and grab a backtrace?

Thanks in advance!

Ludo’.