Re: NEWS entries -- user-visible?

2009-06-29 Thread Neil Jerram
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: Hi! Neil Jerram n...@ossau.uklinux.net writes: In addition to its manual, the package should have a file named @file{NEWS} which contains a list of user-visible changes worth mentioning. ... So I'd say that use of Gnulib (in general) should not be

Re: NEWS entries -- user-visible?

2009-06-29 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello, Neil Jerram n...@ossau.uklinux.net writes: l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: (I think we don't disagree on what `NEWS' should contain, but on whether Gnulib qualifies as user-visible.) I would certainly agree that individual portability fixes should be in NEWS. Is that what

Re: NEWS entries -- user-visible?

2009-06-27 Thread Neil Jerram
ludovic.cour...@inria.fr (Ludovic Courtès) writes: Neil Jerram n...@ossau.uklinux.net writes: I'm really not sure. It's an interesting idea. And I think it touches on the part of GNU philosophy that tries not to draw a firm line between users and developers. Do you think it's worth asking

Re: NEWS entries -- user-visible?

2009-06-19 Thread Neil Jerram
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: I think GNU users, especially on non-GNU platforms (proprietary Unices, etc.), have come to know what Gnulib is, and to appreciate it (hopefully), which is why I thought it would make sense to mention it. Perhaps it should go in a new section of the

Re: NEWS entries -- user-visible?

2009-06-19 Thread Neil Jerram
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: Neil Jerram n...@ossau.uklinux.net writes: l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: I think GNU users, especially on non-GNU platforms (proprietary Unices, etc.), have come to know what Gnulib is, and to appreciate it (hopefully), which is why I thought

Re: NEWS entries -- user-visible?

2009-06-19 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Neil Jerram n...@ossau.uklinux.net writes: I'm really not sure. It's an interesting idea. And I think it touches on the part of GNU philosophy that tries not to draw a firm line between users and developers. Do you think it's worth asking people on gnu-prog-discuss? Yes, why not. Would

Re: NEWS entries -- user-visible?

2009-06-18 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello! Neil Jerram n...@ossau.uklinux.net writes: Julian Graham jool...@gmail.com writes:    ** Guile now uses Gnulib as a portability aid ** Guile now uses components from Gnulib for portability to a wider variety of POSIX and non-POSIX systems. I see where you're heading with this, but

NEWS entries -- user-visible?

2009-06-14 Thread Andy Wingo
Greets, It seems that some of the NEWS entries that are currently there for the 1.9.0 release reflect awesomeness, but not awesomeness which users can react to. Specifically, I am going to remove the following NEWS entries, which are great stuff but thankfully invisible to the user: **

Re: NEWS entries -- user-visible?

2009-06-14 Thread Julian Graham
Hi Andy, As mentioned on IRC, I bet there are ways to pitch these changes to make them comprehensible to users. I think you're right to ditch the second one, but for the first and third:    ** Guile now uses Gnulib as a portability aid ** Guile now uses components from Gnulib for portability

Re: NEWS entries -- user-visible?

2009-06-14 Thread Neil Jerram
Andy Wingo wi...@pobox.com writes: Greets, It seems that some of the NEWS entries that are currently there for the 1.9.0 release reflect awesomeness, but not awesomeness which users can react to. Specifically, I am going to remove the following NEWS entries, which are great stuff but

Re: NEWS entries -- user-visible?

2009-06-14 Thread Neil Jerram
Julian Graham jool...@gmail.com writes: Hi Andy, As mentioned on IRC, I bet there are ways to pitch these changes to make them comprehensible to users. I think you're right to ditch the second one, but for the first and third:    ** Guile now uses Gnulib as a portability aid ** Guile