Re: Deep vs Shallow trace: Removing the tradeoff?

2021-03-27 Thread Julien Lepiller
Le 27 mars 2021 12:56:08 GMT-04:00, ilmu a écrit : >Hi, > >I had this idea while reading about authenticated datastructures, I >would be very thankful if you could tell me why it doesn't work. > >Bear in mind the following disclaimer as you read this: > >My experience with these things is

Re: [PATCHES] ImageMagick security updates without grafting

2021-03-27 Thread Mark H Weaver
Hi Maxime, Maxime Devos writes: > This approach (& patches) look good to me. Thanks for looking. > What does ‘guix refresh --list-dependent imagemagick@6.9.11-48’ > output now? When I last checked, it reported on the order of 2400 dependent package rebuilds. > If it there are many dependent

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Luis Felipe
On Saturday, March 27, 2021 6:12 PM, Vincent Legoll wrote: > The first bits are in, look: > https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/WorkInProgress > Add / enhance to tell what is running, where to find good recipes... > > To create pages you have to score a few edits (I went > typo-hunting for

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Vincent Legoll
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 7:11 PM Luis Felipe wrote: > I see a newly created page for Works in Progress, though Yep, my announce and your email crossed past each other... -- Vincent Legoll

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Vincent Legoll
The first bits are in, look: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/WorkInProgress Add / enhance to tell what is running, where to find good recipes... To create pages you have to score a few edits (I went typo-hunting for a bit). I think about 5 should do. -- Vincent Legoll

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Luis Felipe
On Saturday, March 27, 2021 5:02 PM, Vincent Legoll wrote: > BTW, there's no rush to change this, as Leo, I can't create a page on > libreplanet's > wiki I see a newly created page for Works in Progress, though: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/WorkInProgress And creating subpages

Re: gnu: imagemagick/fixed: Redirect old sonames to new sonames.

2021-03-27 Thread Leo Famulari
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 05:36:48AM -0400, Mark H Weaver wrote: > > gtk+@3 -> at-spi2-atk -> at-spi2-core -> gtk-doc -> dblatex -> imagemagick > > It occurs to me that we could add "stable" variants of the > 'imagemagick', 'dblatex', and 'gtk-doc' packages. The stable variants > would be used as

Deep vs Shallow trace: Removing the tradeoff?

2021-03-27 Thread ilmu
Hi, I had this idea while reading about authenticated datastructures, I would be very thankful if you could tell me why it doesn't work. Bear in mind the following disclaimer as you read this: My experience with these things is mostly theoretical, I have never used Bazel and although I was a

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Vincent Legoll
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 5:50 PM Léo Le Bouter wrote: > After looking more closely at the help page, I think it could be > acceptable to have it there too. But is the wiki an help resource? Even if it may not be today, we are proposing something that could turn it into a helpful resource. So OK

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Luis Felipe
--- Luis Felipe López Acevedo https://luis-felipe.gitlab.io/ Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Saturday, March 27, 2021 4:50 PM, Léo Le Bouter wrote: > On Sat, 2021-03-27 at 16:42 +, Luis Felipe wrote: > > > I'm fine with that too (for now). I can

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Vincent Legoll
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 5:42 PM Luis Felipe wrote: > The reason I didn't suggest that, though, is that the primary menu has already > grown too big in my opinion. And, with the current design, the visibility of > the > primary menu changes depending on screen width: The primary menu is hidden >

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Léo Le Bouter
On Sat, 2021-03-27 at 16:42 +, Luis Felipe wrote: > I'm fine with that too (for now). I can send that patch. > > The reason I didn't suggest that, though, is that the primary menu > has already grown too big in my opinion. And, with the current > design, the visibility of the primary menu

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Luis Felipe
On Saturday, March 27, 2021 4:04 PM, Léo Le Bouter wrote: > On Sat, 2021-03-27 at 15:54 +, Luis Felipe wrote: > > > Or that, yes. I can send a patch to add a Wiki entry to the Help page > > instead of adding a "Wiki" item to the "About" menu. > > I think we should be looking forward to

Re: Cuirass not processing core-updates (or weirdly)

2021-03-27 Thread Vincent Legoll
Maybe we can have both: a core-updates:'core with a sufficient priority so that it is built often enough, and then a core-updates:'all with the lowest priority (batch) so that it does not steal any processing power from the other more important stuff... -- Vincent Legoll

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Vincent Legoll
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 4:54 PM Luis Felipe wrote: > Or that, yes. I can send a patch to add a Wiki entry to the Help page instead > of adding a "Wiki" item to the "About" menu. Or even better a "Wiki" title bar entry of its own, like we have one for "Blog"... -- Vincent Legoll

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Léo Le Bouter
On Sat, 2021-03-27 at 15:54 +, Luis Felipe wrote: > Or that, yes. I can send a patch to add a Wiki entry to the Help page > instead of adding a "Wiki" item to the "About" menu. I think we should be looking forward to including it in the primary menu and not hidden in some submenu.

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Léo Le Bouter
On Sat, 2021-03-27 at 16:41 +0100, Vincent Legoll wrote: > I don't know if libreplanet's wiki meets Léo's requirements, > but this is probably OK from a PoV of spam management. I could create an FSF account with automated approval by email. It seems I cannot create new pages, however it seems we

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Luis Felipe
On Saturday, March 27, 2021 3:41 PM, Vincent Legoll wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 3:44 PM Ricardo Wurmus rek...@elephly.net wrote: > > > > I'd like to reiterate my proposal to document our > > > ongoing projects, maybe with a "WIP" page on the > > > web site (even if I'm not a web guy, I

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Léo Le Bouter
On Sat, 2021-03-27 at 15:44 +, Luis Felipe wrote: > What do you think about adding a "Wiki" item to the "About" menu of > the website linking to that Guix group on LibrePlanet? At least as a > quick solution to try out. I think this would be the best thing to do, however I don't know if I can

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Vincent Legoll
Looks like we have a plan. Now for the hard part, how do we name it ? "Guix/WIP" or "Guix/WorkInProgress" or "Guix/Hacking", "Guix/CoolStuff", "Guix/BleedingEdge", "Guix/NewShiny" Some of those may be half-jokes, I'd personally go with WorkInProgress. -- Vincent Legoll

Re: imagemagick@6.9.11-48 to graft or not to graft with 6.9.12-2

2021-03-27 Thread Andreas Enge
Hello Mark, Am Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 07:42:48PM -0400 schrieb Mark H Weaver: > To my mind this suggests a bug, or at least suboptimal behavior, in > "guix package". I don't think it's appropriate to set grafting policy > to work around it. > > How about changing "guix package -A" and "guix

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Luis Felipe
On Saturday, March 27, 2021 3:34 PM, Léo Le Bouter wrote: > On Sat, 2021-03-27 at 11:32 -0400, Joshua Branson wrote: > > > Good point. Perhaps we should link to this wiki from the guix > > website? > > I think that we should do that for this wiki resource to be really > useful. Widespread

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Vincent Legoll
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 3:44 PM Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > > I'd like to reiterate my proposal to document our > > ongoing projects, maybe with a "WIP" page on the > > web site (even if I'm not a web guy, I volunteer > > the maintenance of it). > > There’s a wiki that could be used for this purpose:

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Léo Le Bouter
On Sat, 2021-03-27 at 11:32 -0400, Joshua Branson wrote: > Good point. Perhaps we should link to this wiki from the guix > website? I think that we should do that for this wiki resource to be really useful. Widespread knowledge of the location is a must. signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Joshua Branson
Ricardo Wurmus writes: > Vincent Legoll writes: > >> I'd like to reiterate my proposal to document our >> ongoing projects, maybe with a "WIP" page on the >> web site (even if I'm not a web guy, I volunteer >> the maintenance of it). > > There’s a wiki that could be used for this purpose: >

Re: Packaging

2021-03-27 Thread Maxime Devos
Hi, On Sat, 2021-03-27 at 07:37 +, mecqor labi wrote: > Please package shadowsocks-rust for Guix! Is there any reason the "shadowsocks" package is not usable for you? Also, feel free to package it yourself (See the manual for how) and note the folks at guix-devel@gnu.org don't (often) take

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Vincent Legoll writes: > I'd like to reiterate my proposal to document our > ongoing projects, maybe with a "WIP" page on the > web site (even if I'm not a web guy, I volunteer > the maintenance of it). There’s a wiki that could be used for this purpose:

Re: [PATCHES] ImageMagick security updates without grafting

2021-03-27 Thread Maxime Devos
On Sat, 2021-03-27 at 09:09 -0400, Mark H Weaver wrote: > Hello Guix, > > Here's a proposed patch set that will henceforth enable us to freely > update ImageMagick (and dblatex, and gtk-doc) on our 'master' branch > without grafts. This is done by adding variables 'imagemagick/stable', >

Re: Cuirass not processing core-updates (or weirdly)

2021-03-27 Thread Léo Le Bouter
On Sat, 2021-03-27 at 04:24 +0100, Léo Le Bouter wrote: > Hello! > > If you look at https://ci.guix.gnu.org/eval/13652 you can see that > the > evaluation of the derivation seems completed but there's no pending > builds. > > What is happening here? > > Thank you I think it may be because

Re: Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Léo Le Bouter
On Sat, 2021-03-27 at 11:07 +0100, Vincent Legoll wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to reiterate my proposal to document our > ongoing projects, maybe with a "WIP" page on the > web site (even if I'm not a web guy, I volunteer > the maintenance of it). > > * CI-built pinebook-pro images [1] > * other

Re: Security patching and the branching workflow: a new security-updates branch

2021-03-27 Thread Léo Le Bouter
On Sat, 2021-03-27 at 14:56 +0100, zimoun wrote: > Oh, I am a big boy and I can think whatever I want! :-) > > Kidding aside. ... > > First, what does it mean «risk»? How do you evaluate it? Is it a > relative evaluation or an absolute one? Most if not all users do not want their machines

Re: Security patching and the branching workflow: a new security-updates branch

2021-03-27 Thread zimoun
On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 at 13:42, Léo Le Bouter wrote: > On Sat, 2021-03-27 at 13:29 +0100, zimoun wrote: >> And as I said elsewhere, “to me, security is important. But it's >> no less important than everything *else* that is also important!“, so >> personally I am not convinced that security updates

[PATCHES] ImageMagick security updates without grafting

2021-03-27 Thread Mark H Weaver
Hello Guix, Here's a proposed patch set that will henceforth enable us to freely update ImageMagick (and dblatex, and gtk-doc) on our 'master' branch without grafts. This is done by adding variables 'imagemagick/stable', 'dblatex/stable', and 'gtk-doc/stable', which are then used as

Re: Security patching and the branching workflow: a new security-updates branch

2021-03-27 Thread Léo Le Bouter
Thanks for your feedback. On Sat, 2021-03-27 at 13:29 +0100, zimoun wrote: > And as I said elsewhere, “to me, security is important. But it's > no less important than everything *else* that is also important!“, so > personally I am not convinced that security updates deserve a special > treatment

Re: Security patching and the branching workflow: a new security-updates branch

2021-03-27 Thread zimoun
Hi Léo, On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 21:10, Léo Le Bouter wrote: > For these reasons, I would like to propose a new branch called > security-updates that would be based on master where we queue security > fixes that introduce any arbitrary number of rebuilds without using > grafts. > > We would merge

Packaging

2021-03-27 Thread mecqor labi
Please package shadowsocks-rust for Guix! Many users have a big problem in access to free internet, and have to go through censorship wall. Please!!!

Re: Discrepancy between manual and channels.scm

2021-03-27 Thread Ozhap
Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Oops you’re right; I’ll push a fix to the manual shortly. In that case please also close bug#46769 I had raised regarding this issue. -- Ozhap

Re: 03/163: build/python: Add a new guix-pythonpath procedure.

2021-03-27 Thread Hartmut Goebel
Am 14.03.21 um 01:58 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer: 6) Please add some more comments to the code explaining the idea. >>> I was under the impression the code was concise enough to forego with >>> verbose explanations; I'd rather keep it this way. >> Please add some comments. I had a hard time

Document our WIP

2021-03-27 Thread Vincent Legoll
Hello, I'd like to reiterate my proposal to document our ongoing projects, maybe with a "WIP" page on the web site (even if I'm not a web guy, I volunteer the maintenance of it). * CI-built pinebook-pro images [1] * other ARM boards * ppc64 & ppc * Hurd VM * Full source bootstrap And probably

Re: gnu: imagemagick/fixed: Redirect old sonames to new sonames.

2021-03-27 Thread Mark H Weaver
Mark H Weaver writes: > The following dependency chain seems to be responsible for most of the > imagemagick-dependent packages: > > gtk+@3 -> at-spi2-atk -> at-spi2-core -> gtk-doc -> dblatex -> imagemagick It occurs to me that we could add "stable" variants of the 'imagemagick', 'dblatex', and

Re: Adding Substitute Mirrors page to installer

2021-03-27 Thread Mathieu Othacehe
Hello, I plan to have a look to your patch in the next coming days. Sorry for the long delay. Thanks, Mathieu

Re: Security patching and the branching workflow: a new security-updates branch

2021-03-27 Thread Christopher Baines
Léo Le Bouter writes: > On Fri, 2021-03-26 at 22:13 +, Christopher Baines wrote: >> Can you clarify what specific problem or problems you're proposing >> this >> security-updates branch to address? > > Substitute availability of security updates when they are released, > without causing big

Re: Cuirass not processing core-updates (or weirdly)

2021-03-27 Thread Mathieu Othacehe
Hello Leo, > If you look at https://ci.guix.gnu.org/eval/13652 you can see that the > evaluation of the derivation seems completed but there's no pending > builds. If you have a look to https://ci.guix.gnu.org/specification/edit/core-updates you will see that this specification is configured

Re: Adding Substitute Mirrors page to installer

2021-03-27 Thread raid5atemyhomework
Bump Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 11:55 PM, raid5atemyhomework wrote: > Hi all, > > Below is the new patch version. > > In this version, the installer now also reads the generated > `operating-system` file to extract the