Re: Teams

2022-06-08 Thread Eric Bavier
Hi, On Sun, 2022-06-05 at 11:51 +0200, Andreas Enge wrote: > Hello, > > Am Sat, Jun 04, 2022 at 02:07:15PM +0200 schrieb Ricardo Wurmus: > > As a first step I’d suggest collecting teams, setting up the email > > aliases, and updating the website to show the existing teams.  > > Here’s > > a

Re: Repology and outdated packages

2022-06-08 Thread kiasoc5
June 8, 2022 at 9:38 PM, "Ludovic Courtès" mailto:l...@gnu.org?to=%22Ludovic%20Court%C3%A8s%22%20%3Cludo%40gnu.org%3E > wrote: > Guix is *potentially* even more up-to-date than NixOS thanks to > ‘--with-latest’ and ‘--with-branch’! \o/ I do use --with-latest for testing package upgrades. But it

Re: Repology and outdated packages

2022-06-08 Thread kiasoc5
June 7, 2022 at 6:47 PM, "Nicolas Goaziou" mailto:m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr?to=%22Nicolas%20Goaziou%22%20%3Cmail%40nicolasgoaziou.fr%3E > wrote: > Repology hasn't been able to caught Guix package updates for a while > now. As a consequence, many packages are marked as outdated in Repology > even

Re: Repology and outdated packages

2022-06-08 Thread Oleg Pykhalov
Hi, Ludovic Courtès writes: […] > Seriously though, we could take better advantage of the tooling that we > have: ‘guix refresh’, ‘guix graph’, and the corresponding APIs. With > that, we can write code that automatically tries out package updates and > prepares patches, for instance. We

Re: Teams

2022-06-08 Thread Thiago Jung Bauermann
Hello, Ludovic Courtès writes: > Vagrant Cascadian skribis: > >> On 2022-06-04, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: >>> As a first step I’d suggest collecting teams, setting up the email >>> aliases, and updating the website to show the existing teams. Here’s >>> a draft of three teams: >> >> I'm almost

Re: Repology and outdated packages

2022-06-08 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi! kias...@disroot.org skribis: > I know that rolling release distros don't have to have the latest packages > but this is not the best representation of Guix, especially when our friend > NixOS claims they have the largest and most updated package collection >

Re: Teams

2022-06-08 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Vagrant Cascadian skribis: > On 2022-06-04, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: >> As a first step I’d suggest collecting teams, setting up the email >> aliases, and updating the website to show the existing teams. Here’s >> a draft of three teams: > > I'm almost afraid to volunteer... but maybe architecture

Re: Merging ‘staging’?

2022-06-08 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hey Efraim, Efraim Flashner skribis: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2022 at 11:17:47PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Ludovic Courtès skribis: >> >> ‘guix weather -s i686-linux’ says 89% (which is underestimated, because >> it wrongfully checks for all the packages, including unsupported >>

Re: On commit access, patch review, and remaining healthy

2022-06-08 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Efraim Flashner skribis: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 05:11:48PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: [...] >> The manual mentions the two web interfaces in addition to Emacs: >> >> https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/html_node/Debbugs-User-Interfaces.html >> >> Do you or would you use them to keep

Re: aarch64 workers appear to have stalled on ci.guix.gnu.org

2022-06-08 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi Tom, Tom Fitzhenry skribis: > Per https://ci.guix.gnu.org/eval/364633?status=pending , there are ~5k > scheduled jobs, all aarch64-linux. > > Per https://ci.guix.gnu.org/workers, all workers report being idle. > > Thus, it looks like the aarch64 builders have stalled. It looks like

Re: maradns reproducibility fixes and the merits of picking a random number

2022-06-08 Thread Vagrant Cascadian
On 2022-06-08, Efraim Flashner wrote: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 07:20:25AM +0200, Julien Lepiller wrote: >> On June 7, 2022 5:24:22 AM GMT+02:00, Felix Lechner >> wrote: >> >On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 6:50 PM Vagrant Cascadian >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> So, Debian's maradns package just removes this

Re: maradns reproducibility fixes and the merits of picking a random number

2022-06-08 Thread Vagrant Cascadian
On 2022-06-09, Arun Isaac wrote: > Hi Vagrant, > >> But there's one nervous-making issue this revealed; maradns embeds a >> random number at build time ... allegedly for systems that don't have >> /dev/urandom... see >> maradns-3.5.0020/deadwood-3.5.0020/src/Makefile.ubuntu2004: >> >> # Since

Re: maradns reproducibility fixes and the merits of picking a random number

2022-06-08 Thread Vagrant Cascadian
On 2022-06-08, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: > Am Montag, dem 06.06.2022 um 18:49 -0700 schrieb Vagrant Cascadian: >> p.s. Obviously, I picked the best random number. > I beg to differ. >> +-RandomPrime:  RandomPrime.c >> +-  $(CC) -O3 -o RandomPrime RandomPrime.c >> +- >> +-DwRandPrime.h:

Re: Mummi wishlist: API using Message-ID

2022-06-08 Thread Arun Isaac
> As long as the script shows it's trying and explains why it takes > time, it should be fine. It could offer a --continue option too :) Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Definitely beats the two-step manual process that we have to endure now.

Re: Move switch-symlinks to (guix build utils)

2022-06-08 Thread Arun Isaac
Hi Maxime, Thanks for the explanation! I am working on a patch. I'll send something soon. Regards, Arun

Re: maradns reproducibility fixes and the merits of picking a random number

2022-06-08 Thread Liliana Marie Prikler
Am Montag, dem 06.06.2022 um 18:49 -0700 schrieb Vagrant Cascadian: > p.s. Obviously, I picked the best random number. I beg to differ. > +-RandomPrime:  RandomPrime.c > +-  $(CC) -O3 -o RandomPrime RandomPrime.c > +- > +-DwRandPrime.h: RandomPrime > +-  if [ -e /dev/urandom ] ; then

Re: maradns reproducibility fixes and the merits of picking a random number

2022-06-08 Thread Arun Isaac
Hi Vagrant, > But there's one nervous-making issue this revealed; maradns embeds a > random number at build time ... allegedly for systems that don't have > /dev/urandom... see > maradns-3.5.0020/deadwood-3.5.0020/src/Makefile.ubuntu2004: > > # Since some systems may not have /dev/urandom

Re: maradns reproducibility fixes and the merits of picking a random number

2022-06-08 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
Efraim Flashner 写道: I like the idea of forcing the program to segfault if it looks for /dev/urandom and it isn't there more than distributing a randomized prime number. +4 Or error out nicely. Don't let's ship such ‘features’. Kind regards, T G-R signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: Merging ‘staging’?

2022-06-08 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Mon, Jun 06, 2022 at 11:17:47PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Hi, > > Ludovic Courtès skribis: > > ‘guix weather -s i686-linux’ says 89% (which is underestimated, because > it wrongfully checks for all the packages, including unsupported > packages), which sounds good. > > We have to

Re: maradns reproducibility fixes and the merits of picking a random number

2022-06-08 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 08:11:54AM -0400, Brian Cully via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution. wrote: > > > > The upstream website says: "People like MaraDNS because it’s ... > > > remarkably secure." [1] Since many distributions have the same > > > issue, > > > upstream

Re: maradns reproducibility fixes and the merits of picking a random number

2022-06-08 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 07:20:25AM +0200, Julien Lepiller wrote: > > > On June 7, 2022 5:24:22 AM GMT+02:00, Felix Lechner > wrote: > >Hi, > > > >On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 6:50 PM Vagrant Cascadian > > wrote: > >> > >> So, Debian's maradns package just removes this embedding of a "random" > >>

Re: On commit access, patch review, and remaining healthy

2022-06-08 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 05:11:48PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Hi Efraim, > > Efraim Flashner skribis: > > > As someone who has never used debbugs or emacs I find it daunting to try > > to add it into my workflow. Currently I am subscribed to guix-patches > > and I dump it into my

Re: emacs-guix (upstream) needs more love: a survey of repositories, homepage and issues

2022-06-08 Thread Kaelyn
On Tuesday, June 7th, 2022 at 10:42 AM, Kaelyn wrote: [snip] > > > I just took a few minutes and checked both repos out into a single > > > working tree, and there aren't many commits unique to each > > > repository. The official savannah repo has 5 commits since they > > > diverged, with the 3

Re: On commit access, patch review, and remaining healthy

2022-06-08 Thread Giovanni Biscuolo
Hi Ludo' Ludovic Courtès writes: [...] > OK, understood. > > I can think of two ways to reassure committers: > > 1. By having clear reviewer check lists (you’d do that if you tick all > the boxes, you’re fine); also a description of the review process used by you and other experienced

Re: On commit access, patch review, and remaining healthy

2022-06-08 Thread Giovanni Biscuolo
Hi Arun, Arun Isaac writes: > Tooling aside, at least for me, I think there is an important emotional > and psychological aspect to patch review. Maybe others share it too. So, > I'll speak up. Thanks a lot for your speak up! > Guix has very high coding standards Do you think other software

Re: On commit access, patch review, and remaining healthy

2022-06-08 Thread Giovanni Biscuolo
Hi Simon and all, just a quick note about myself: I'm (still) not contributing with patch reviews (and in general contributing too little) because in this period of my "work life" I have little time, but things will hopefully change... IMHO the curent tooling is helpful and usable with a little