Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-10-11 Thread zimoun
Hi Maxim, On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 03:58, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > Heck, it was discussed before between maintainers to switch to the Git > repository directly to make things simpler, lighter and error proof, so > we could fetch from the linux-libre repository directly and streamline > things. > >

Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-10-07 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Hi Simon, zimoun writes: > Hi, > > On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 19:52, Jason Self wrote: > >> Yes, git://linux-libre.fsfla.org/releases.git which carries tagged >> releases, scripts, and logs. As you can see it goes all the way back to >> 2.6.21. > > Thanks. > > Does it make sense to switch from 'ur

Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-09-29 Thread zimoun
Hi, On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 19:52, Jason Self wrote: > Yes, git://linux-libre.fsfla.org/releases.git which carries tagged > releases, scripts, and logs. As you can see it goes all the way back to > 2.6.21. Thanks. Does it make sense to switch from 'url-fetch' to 'git-fetch' in linux-libre-debl

Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-09-28 Thread Jason Self
On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 19:11:58 +0200 zimoun wrote: > The method you are proposing seems awkward; as you say, old/gen7 is > not currently a valid URL. And you are proposing that you set in > stone now this URL expecting that maybe it will be valid in the > future. Ah future cannot be predicted. ;-

Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-09-28 Thread zimoun
Hi, On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 16:32, Jason Self wrote: > > Granted that old/gen7 is not currently a valid URL but we can know > that, 5 or 10 years from now, when Linux-libre has moved on to the 8th, > 9th or even 10th generation, the 7th generation scripts will exist > there. If Guix can begin che

Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-09-28 Thread Jason Self
Granted that old/gen7 is not currently a valid URL but we can know that, 5 or 10 years from now, when Linux-libre has moved on to the 8th, 9th or even 10th generation, the 7th generation scripts will exist there. If Guix can begin checking those additional locations now then, in the future once the

Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-09-28 Thread Jason Self
On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 10:43:20 +0200 zimoun wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 at 17:46, Jason Self wrote: > > [...] > > > > Yes. In gen6. They have been moved, not deleted. > > > > The versioning and locations in terms of gnuN and genN are knowable > > and predictable in advance. I wonder

Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-09-28 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi, Vagrant Cascadian skribis: > Not sure exactly how Software Heritage handles rebased branches... It keeps the history of the history, so to speak. A “snapshot” in SWH parlance contains the branches as they existed at one point in time. Ludo’.

Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-09-28 Thread zimoun
Hi, On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 at 17:46, Jason Self wrote: >> https://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/old/ > > Yes. In gen6. They have been moved, not deleted. > > The versioning and locations in terms of gnuN and genN are knowable and > predictable in advance. I wonder if there is, or c

Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-09-27 Thread Jason Self
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 19:30:29 -0400 Leo Famulari wrote: > I didn't check that the files are bit-identical, but my understanding > is that the "old" revisions of the deblobbing scripts are available > here: > > https://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/old/ Yes. In gen6. They have be

Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-09-27 Thread zimoun
(Sorry, for the typos.) On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 02:13, zimoun wrote: > even if it happens, SWH does rebuild the exact same tarball (because SWH does *NOT* rebuild the exact same tarball.

Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-09-27 Thread zimoun
Hi, On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 01:34, Leo Famulari wrote: > Of course, adding this to the list of URIs in linux-libre-deblob-scripts > won't help users of old Guix revisions... Software Heritage and other > archives that support content-addressed lookups are the only solution > for that. I do not

Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-09-27 Thread Leo Famulari
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 06:30:21PM -0400, Mark H Weaver wrote: > If we wish to preserve Guix users' ability to reproduce older systems, > we will need an 'origin' to fetch the Linux-libre deblob scripts from > that has a policy of retaining older releases, unchanged and at a fixed > location. Appa

Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-09-27 Thread Vagrant Cascadian
On 2021-09-27, Mark H Weaver wrote: > Leo Famulari writes: > >> On Sat, Sep 04, 2021 at 01:32:16PM -0700, Jason Self wrote: >>> The scripts are not being removed and my understanding is that Guix >>> only uses the scripts anyway. >> >> Okay, that's great. We do use the scripts. > > Unfortunately,

Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-09-27 Thread Mark H Weaver
Leo Famulari writes: > On Sat, Sep 04, 2021 at 01:32:16PM -0700, Jason Self wrote: >> The scripts are not being removed and my understanding is that Guix >> only uses the scripts anyway. > > Okay, that's great. We do use the scripts. Unfortunately, the older deblobbing scripts have now been remo

Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-09-08 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi! Leo Famulari skribis: > According to the linux-libre team in the #gnu-linux-libre IRC channel on > Libera.chat, all releases of linux-libre before 4.4.282, 4.9.281, > 4.14.245, 4.19.205, 5.4.143, 5.10.61, and 5.13.13 will be deleted from > their servers, and their Git repo is also going to b

Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-09-06 Thread Leo Famulari
On Sat, Sep 04, 2021 at 01:32:16PM -0700, Jason Self wrote: > The scripts are not being removed and my understanding is that Guix > only uses the scripts anyway. Okay, that's great. We do use the scripts.

Re: Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-09-04 Thread Jason Self
For some clarity on the situation: http://www.fsfla.org/pipermail/linux-libre/2021-August/003439.html The scripts are not being removed and my understanding is that Guix only uses the scripts anyway. > and their Git repo is also going to be rewritten to remove them. The tags for the kernel sourc

Linux-libre source code will be taken offline

2021-09-04 Thread Leo Famulari
According to the linux-libre team in the #gnu-linux-libre IRC channel on Libera.chat, all releases of linux-libre before 4.4.282, 4.9.281, 4.14.245, 4.19.205, 5.4.143, 5.10.61, and 5.13.13 will be deleted from their servers, and their Git repo is also going to be rewritten to remove them. So, if a