Re: Rename glibc-utf8-locales to glibc-limited-utf8-locales

2022-02-26 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Hi Rovanion, Rovanion Luckey writes: >> The package description reads as: >> >>This package provides a small sample of UTF-8 locales mostly useful >>in test environments. >> > > While true does not change that the name is, in my opinion, misleading. > > >> Perhaps it should simply be

Re: An appeal to empathy on actual hurt caused by this thread

2022-02-26 Thread Christine Lemmer-Webber
Okay. Now a longer reply. I am taking a substantial portion of my day to do this. I think there is a lot more going on here than even appears at the surface. So I have re-read everything that has been said so far and am doing my best to take care in what I write here. I hope it's of some

Re: Rename glibc-utf8-locales to glibc-limited-utf8-locales

2022-02-26 Thread Rovanion Luckey
> The package description reads as: > >This package provides a small sample of UTF-8 locales mostly useful >in test environments. > While true does not change that the name is, in my opinion, misleading. > Perhaps it should simply be marked as a hidden package (not discoverable > via

Re: Update CoC adapted from upstream 2.1 (instead of 1.4)

2022-02-26 Thread elais
> This is very twisted and unfair to Taylan. Is it though? Arguably all of this blew up because of how twisted and unfair Taylan is  about this issue generally, given the wiki they run and the fact that they’ve been banned from at least one site for this fixation. Everyone who has commented

Re: llvm on aarch64 builds very slowly

2022-02-26 Thread Kaelyn
On Wednesday, February 23rd, 2022 at 9:49 AM, Christopher Baines wrote: > Ricardo Wurmus rek...@elephly.net writes: > > > Ricardo Wurmus rek...@elephly.net writes: > > > > > Hi Guix, > > > > > > I had to manually run the build of llvm 11 on aarch64, because it would > > > > > > keep timing out:

Re: An appeal to empathy on actual hurt caused by this thread

2022-02-26 Thread Morgan Lemmer Webber
Thank you for this response and for sharing some of your own experiences. I just want to address this issue: >The key reason the thread / my mails have caused hurt seems to be that >they've come across as an attempt to debate transgender experiences. >What I've not been able to understand is how

Re: branch master updated: gnu: pspp: Fix failing test suite.

2022-02-26 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
On 2022-02-26 15:52, guix-comm...@gnu.org wrote: + #~(modify-phases %standard-phases Hm, this initially used an ungexp before I was sure what was going on. Now it doesn't. Is the purported performance impact of gexps measurable at this scale, and worth removing the gexp? My gut

Re: better error messages through assertions

2022-02-26 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Hi Ricardo, Ricardo Wurmus writes: > Maxim Cournoyer writes: > >> I hear we now have "field sanitizers" on Guix records; without having >> dug the details, it seems to be we could add a predicate validating the >> input there? > > I don’t see how that would help here. In my example the

Re: Rename glibc-utf8-locales to glibc-limited-utf8-locales

2022-02-26 Thread Maxim Cournoyer
Hi Rovanion, Rovanion Luckey writes: > I prefer names to not be lying about what they are, despite any > documentation. It is a UX problem if the user has to search the > documentation for any given package name before installing it, just to make > sure that it contains what it says on the can

Re: better error messages through assertions

2022-02-26 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Maxim Cournoyer writes: > I hear we now have "field sanitizers" on Guix records; without having > dug the details, it seems to be we could add a predicate validating the > input there? I don’t see how that would help here. In my example the service values themselves are all right. It’s a

Re: An appeal to empathy on actual hurt caused by this thread

2022-02-26 Thread Ekaitz Zarraga
I'll just add my five cents here and leave the conversation: > Reading over my mails, I just don't understand why they might have been > misunderstood so badly. If you could shed some light on that, I would be > very grateful! It would certainly help me avoid mistakes in the future, > if I were

Re: Update CoC adapted from upstream 2.1 (instead of 1.4)

2022-02-26 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 01:48:22 +0100 Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: > As a nice side-effect, adding it would give us > two reasons to ban Taylan; first for discriminating against trans > people based on their sex characteristics and second based on their > gender identity or expression. This is