Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-09-04 Thread Adam Van Ymeren
Kinda late to the party here but I think a goal for 1.0 should be to ensure every single package builds on x86_64 and/or i686 and that most substitutes are available at the time of release. Having guix claim to have packages which then fail to build can leave a poor first impression. It's

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-09-04 Thread fis trivial
Ludovic Courtès writes: > Hello Guix! > > I’ve pushed to guix/maintenance.git a list of things that IMO we should > do or might want to do for 1.0, with the understanding that 1.0 should > happen in 2018 (or early 2019 at the latest!). :-) > >

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-09-01 Thread Nils Gillmann
Pjotr Prins transcribed 466 bytes: > On Sat, Sep 01, 2018 at 07:36:35AM +, rchar01 wrote: > > As an example, PureOS had a similar idea for the name. > > > > - https://www.pureos.net/ > > - from https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html > > We should have some flavours: > > FunGuixOs

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-09-01 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Sat, Sep 01, 2018 at 07:36:35AM +, rchar01 wrote: > As an example, PureOS had a similar idea for the name. > > - https://www.pureos.net/ > - from https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html We should have some flavours: FunGuixOs SeriousGuixOs VerySeriousGuixOS

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-09-01 Thread rchar01
As an example, PureOS had a similar idea for the name. - https://www.pureos.net/ - from https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 31, 2018 5:54 PM, Amirouche Boubekki wrote: > > > > If we want an > > > >

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-31 Thread Amirouche Boubekki
> > >If we want an > > improved label for the Guix system distribution, the best one is > > probably "GuixOS" since "OS" is a widely used and recognized > > abbreviation ... > > Is exactly my opinion also, so it gets a +1 > Top 3: 1) GuixOS 2) Guix 3) Guix System

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-31 Thread Vincent Legoll
Hello, I was refraining to answer, but this: On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 4:29 PM George Clemmer wrote: > I think this discussion was primarily triggered by the realization that > we can improve the top-level presentation of Guix by downplaying the > distinction between Guix and GuixSD. In fact, we

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-31 Thread George Clemmer
Gábor Boskovits writes: > George Clemmer ezt írta (időpont: 2018. aug. 30., Cs, > 21:14): > >> >> Ricardo Wurmus writes: >> >> > Ludovic Courtès writes: >> > >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> I think “Guix System” is OK. >> > >> > I think so too. >> >> I recommend against renaming GuixSD >> "Guix

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-30 Thread Gábor Boskovits
George Clemmer ezt írta (időpont: 2018. aug. 30., Cs, 21:14): > > Ricardo Wurmus writes: > > > Ludovic Courtès writes: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I think “Guix System” is OK. > > > > I think so too. > > I recommend against renaming GuixSD >> "Guix System". Here is Why: > > 1) A noob would

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-30 Thread Taylan Kammer
Pierre Neidhardt writes: > - The name "Guix CI" tells developers what it is (continuous integration) > while > "Cuirass" does not. This is mostly true, however, for almost all > applications > (mpv, firefox, chromium, emacs, ). Just an anecdote: I didn't know what Cuirass was until I

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-30 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Hi Chris, > I'm not advocating that we change anything; I'm only advocating that we > should make our stability promise (if any) clear by documenting it. If > you want to know my thoughts about what sort of stability promise we > should provide, I'd be happy to talk about that also, but here

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-30 Thread George Clemmer
Ricardo Wurmus writes: > Ludovic Courtès writes: > >> Hello, >> >> I think “Guix System” is OK. > > I think so too. I recommend against renaming GuixSD >> "Guix System". Here is Why: 1) A noob would expect "guix system" to refer to the whole Guix enchilada. If we use it to refer to GuixSD,

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-30 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Ludovic Courtès writes: > I think “Guix System” is OK. Most of the time we’ll just say “Guix”, as > is already the case, and when we need to disambiguate (for instance when > addressing bugs), we’ll ask “Are you using Guix System?” or “Are you > using the Guix distro?”, and everything will be

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-30 Thread Hartmut Goebel
Am 30.08.2018 um 14:04 schrieb Ludovic Courtès: > “Guix Continuous” For me this sounds like a fail-save system which will continue running, and running, and running. -- Regards Hartmut Goebel | Hartmut Goebel | h.goe...@crazy-compilers.com | | www.crazy-compilers.com |

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-30 Thread George Clemmer
Hi, Ludovic Courtès writes: > Hello, > > Pierre Neidhardt skribis: > >> - If we get started with Guix CI and Guix OS, I'm afraid that soon enough we >> will end up with a bunch Guix FS, Guix IP, Guix CD... > > I think “Guix System” is OK. Most of the time we’ll just say “Guix”, as > is

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-30 Thread Nils Gillmann
Tobias Geerinckx-Rice transcribed 340 bytes: > Guix, > > Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > > Ludovic Courtès writes: > > > I think “Guix System” is OK. > > > > I think so too. > > Big +1. > > If you use 'guix system', you're using Guix System[0]. > > It doesn't get less confusing than that. > > Kind

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-30 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
Guix, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: Ludovic Courtès writes: I think “Guix System” is OK. I think so too. Big +1. If you use 'guix system', you're using Guix System[0]. It doesn't get less confusing than that. Kind regards, T G-R [0]: The only question left is 'on what?'. Everything, of

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-30 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Ludovic Courtès writes: > Hello, > > Pierre Neidhardt skribis: > >> Conversely, "Guix CI" is much less widespread, although I suppose many >> developers are familiar with the term. I personally prefer unique, easy >> names >> to abbreviations. >> >> - The name "Guix CI" tells developers

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-30 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello, Pierre Neidhardt skribis: > Conversely, "Guix CI" is much less widespread, although I suppose many > developers are familiar with the term. I personally prefer unique, easy names > to abbreviations. > > - The name "Guix CI" tells developers what it is (continuous integration) > while >

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-30 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
> >> ** TODO “GuixSD” renamed to “Guix System”? > > Guix System is not good because "system" is a word that is too generic. > > What about "Guix OS"? > > >> ** TODO “Cuirass” renamed to “Guix CI”? > > OK On the one hand, OS and CI are rather ubiquitous. On the other hand, I've personally always

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-29 Thread Amirouche Boubekki
"There are only two hard problems in Computer Science: cache invalidation and naming things" On 2018-07-30 03:23, Pjotr Prins wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 05:18:21PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: #+TITLE: Roadmap for Guix 1.0, 2018 * miscellaneous ** TODO “GuixSD” rename

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-29 Thread Amirouche Boubekki
Le lun. 20 août 2018 à 09:45, Ricardo Wurmus a écrit : > > Amirouche Boubekki writes: > > >> I’ve pushed to guix/maintenance.git a list of things that IMO we should > >> do or might want to do for 1.0, with the understanding that 1.0 should > >> happen in 2018 (or early 2019 at the latest!).

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-20 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Amirouche Boubekki writes: >> I’ve pushed to guix/maintenance.git a list of things that IMO we should >> do or might want to do for 1.0, with the understanding that 1.0 should >> happen in 2018 (or early 2019 at the latest!). :-) >> >>

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-19 Thread Chris Marusich
Hi Ludo, l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > Chris Marusich skribis: > >> At the moment, I only have this to add: It would be nice if we could >> decide on how we will use version numbers going forward and publish a >> description of that in the manual or on the website. >> >> I think the

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-19 Thread Amirouche Boubekki
Hello everyone, On 2018-07-29 17:18, l...@gnu.org wrote: Hello Guix! I’ve pushed to guix/maintenance.git a list of things that IMO we should do or might want to do for 1.0, with the understanding that 1.0 should happen in 2018 (or early 2019 at the latest!). :-)

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-19 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello, Pierre Neidhardt skribis: > My two cents because I'm not sure it fits the list: > > - `man' is broken. > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-05/msg00084.html [...] > - As Julien mentioned recently, I think we should provide a "stable" > channel. Is it already

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-08-19 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi Chris, Chris Marusich skribis: > At the moment, I only have this to add: It would be nice if we could > decide on how we will use version numbers going forward and publish a > description of that in the manual or on the website. > > I think the important thing is that we publish a

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-07-30 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
Also how far did we go with LVM support? -- Pierre Neidhardt signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-07-30 Thread Nils Gillmann
Pjotr Prins transcribed 2.9K bytes: > On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 05:18:21PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > > #+TITLE: Roadmap for Guix 1.0, 2018 > > #+STARTUP: hidestars > > > > * 'guix pull' & co. > > ** TODO 'guix pull' honors ~/.config/guix/channels.scm &g

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-07-30 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
> Sentimental Versioning Didn't know about this, interesting take... :) My two cents because I'm not sure it fits the list: - `man' is broken. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-05/msg00084.html It seems trivial but I don't think we should put a 1.0 stamp on an OS that

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-07-29 Thread Chris Marusich
l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > #+TITLE: Roadmap for Guix 1.0, 2018 A lot of good stuff! I hope I can find the time to help knock out some of these things. At the moment, I only have this to add: It would be nice if we could decide on how we will use version numbers going forw

Re: Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-07-29 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 05:18:21PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > #+TITLE: Roadmap for Guix 1.0, 2018 > #+STARTUP: hidestars > > * 'guix pull' & co. > ** TODO 'guix pull' honors ~/.config/guix/channels.scm > *** (guix channels) module provides easy way to build a set o

Roadmap for Guix 1.0

2018-07-29 Thread Ludovic Courtès
. Committers should feel free to edit the file directly in maintenance.git, especially to mark things as done. ;-) Copy of the file attached below. Ludo’. PS: I’m starting the discussion but will go AFK soon after sending this message. :-) #+TITLE: Roadmap for Guix 1.0, 2018 #+STARTUP