Re: guix pull: error: symlink: File exists

2018-10-31 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Hello Laura, I've just installed guix on debian. What I did: installed guix using the script, then guix pulled. Then did what it said on the final line: added to $PATH the .config/guix/current/bin stuff. I also added that to the thne non-existent .bash_profile Then ran guix pull again, it did the

Re: [Outreachy] First version of my proposed timeline

2018-10-31 Thread Laura Lazzati
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 8:24 AM Björn Höfling < bjoern.hoefl...@bjoernhoefling.de> wrote: > Hi Laura, > > Sorry, I would like to look into it in full detail and have it on my > list, but didn't find the time. > > Looking roughly over it, it's fine Ok, thanks! As I said, it was my first proposal

Re: guix pull: error: symlink: File exists

2018-10-31 Thread Laura Lazzati
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 8:08 AM Gábor Boskovits wrote: > Hello Laura, > > I've just installed guix on debian. > What I did: installed guix using the script, then guix pulled. > Then did what it said on the final line: added to $PATH the > .config/guix/current/bin stuff. > I also added that to

Re: Patch submission should not imply agreement to policy (was Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?)

2018-10-31 Thread Mark H Weaver
Hi Chris, Christopher Lemmer Webber writes: > Mark H Weaver writes: > >> Christopher Lemmer Webber writes: >> >>> Thorsten Wilms writes: >>> On 29/10/2018 09.59, Björn Höfling wrote: > In law, there is the term of "conduct implying an intent". So even not > signing anything you

Re: [Outreachy] First version of my proposed timeline

2018-10-31 Thread Laura Lazzati
Sorry for writing again on this thread, could someone else have a look on this? Or is it fine to leave it as it is? :) On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:00 AM Laura Lazzati wrote: > > Looks good to me so far. >> > Thanks! > >> >> If anyone would like to see a more details please write you comments. >>

Re: [Outreachy] First version of my proposed timeline

2018-10-31 Thread Björn Höfling
Hi Laura, On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:18:34 -0300 Laura Lazzati wrote: > Sorry for writing again on this thread, could someone else have a > look on this? Or is it fine to leave it as it is? :) Sorry, I would like to look into it in full detail and have it on my list, but didn't find the time.

Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

2018-10-31 Thread HiPhish
There is a common pattern in all the links you provided: 1) only feminists are seeing this supposed issue, 2) it does not go into the exact nature of the supposed harassment. With regards to the first point: Feminist group have vested interests in furthering conflicts. Even if there is no

Re: Patchwork + automated checking and testing of patches

2018-10-31 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
Christopher, Christopher Baines wrote: I've now written a very rough package and service for Patchwork [4], and managed to setup a instance here [5]. With the help of an email account subscribed to both guix-patches and guix-commits, getmail and a couple of scripts, it should also collect new

Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

2018-10-31 Thread Jelle Licht
Hello, HiPhish writes: > I am really trying to understand the other side here, so please help me out on Without attributing malice to your statement here, I think it is disingenuous to talk about "the other side". We are all part of communities we interact with, there is no need for any

Re: Dual Boot GuixSd along side other preexisting distros

2018-10-31 Thread Joshua Branson
Tomáš Čech writes: > Hi, > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:55:50PM +0530, Nalin Ranjan wrote: >>  Hi Guys, >> Can you guys please help me with a bit of understanding? >> >> I have a ThinkPad T410 on which I am trying to do this. Currently I have a >> dual boot configuration running Ubuntu

Re: hydra.gnu.org off-line for maintenance

2018-10-31 Thread Alex Vong
Tobias Geerinckx-Rice writes: > Alex, > > Alex Vong wrote: >> For myself, I use the following option: >> >> --substitute-urls='https://berlin.guixsd.org >> https://mirror.guixsd.org https://mirror.hydra.gnu.org >> https://hydra.gnu.org' > > I suggest keeping only one of mirror.guixsd.org and >

Re: Patch submission should not imply agreement to policy (was Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?)

2018-10-31 Thread Alex Sassmannshausen
Thanks for your answers. I'm glad to hear that there might be room for some form of dialogue on wording. Cheers! Alex Thorsten Wilms writes: > On 31/10/2018 09.58, Alex Sassmannshausen wrote: >> Out of curiosity, would you personally feel better about the CoC if it >> used terms such as

Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

2018-10-31 Thread HiPhish
On Wednesday, 31 October 2018 14:48:18 CET you wrote: > Without attributing malice to your statement here, I think it is > disingenuous to talk about "the other side". We are all part of > communities we interact with, there is no need for any additional > "othering" here :). Sure, but communities

Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

2018-10-31 Thread HiPhish
On Wednesday, 31 October 2018 15:14:53 CET you wrote: > This confused me. You mean collectives of people are made up of people, > and therefore associate with other people? More like "I scratch your back, you scratch my back" or "oh, I know just the right guy for the job". You let that happen

Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

2018-10-31 Thread HiPhish
Oh sure, I would have no issue working with people I disagree with, but the topic here is adopting the GKCG over the CC. The CC allows the maintainers to remove me from contributing, which is the part I and others are taking issue with. This can be abused to sabotage the project; even if I am

Re: Dual Boot GuixSd along side other preexisting distros

2018-10-31 Thread Julien Lepiller
Le 2018-10-31 15:18, Joshua Branson a écrit : Tomáš Čech writes: Hi, On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:55:50PM +0530, Nalin Ranjan wrote:  Hi Guys, Can you guys please help me with a bit of understanding? I have a ThinkPad T410 on which I am trying to do this. Currently I have a dual

Re: Patchwork + automated checking and testing of patches

2018-10-31 Thread Christopher Baines
Tobias Geerinckx-Rice writes: > Christopher Baines wrote: >> I've now written a very rough package and service for Patchwork [4], >> and >> managed to setup a instance here [5]. With the help of an email >> account >> subscribed to both guix-patches and guix-commits, getmail and a >> couple >>

Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

2018-10-31 Thread Jelle Licht
Hello! HiPhish writes: > If you don't want to continue the discussion then so be it, but I cannot leave > my points misrepresented. When I say "you" I don't necessarily mean you > personally, but rather the larger discussion. You don't have to respond if you > don't want to, I believe we have

Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

2018-10-31 Thread HiPhish
I am really trying to understand the other side here, so please help me out on this one. Let's say you have two people for the sake of simplicity, we can call them Alice and Bob. Alice and Bob hate each other's guts, Alice is unwilling to work on the team if Bob stays on the team, but Bob is

Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

2018-10-31 Thread HiPhish
If you don't want to continue the discussion then so be it, but I cannot leave my points misrepresented. When I say "you" I don't necessarily mean you personally, but rather the larger discussion. You don't have to respond if you don't want to, I believe we have both made our points and it's up

Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

2018-10-31 Thread Alex Griffin
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018, at 8:48 AM, Thomas Danckaert wrote: > In practice, just send > your patches, be civil and respect all other contributors. I can't > remember any occasion where people were banned. Yes, even feminists and anti-feminists should be able to get along despite their

Stop it. Formerly - Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

2018-10-31 Thread Pjotr Prins
I suggest to end this thread. HiPhish, come and discuss your points at FOSDEM. We'll set up a working group for those who care about these things. Pj.

Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

2018-10-31 Thread Alex Sassmannshausen
After this email I'm done with the conversation. I have tried to provide you with evidence. You make it clear you have a bone to pick with people concerned with gender equality. This will go around in circles. HiPhish writes: > There is a common pattern in all the links you provided: 1) only

Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

2018-10-31 Thread Thomas Danckaert
I may come as a surprise to some, but you *can* contribute to Guix without joining the queer or feminist movement (you can even get by without using singular they or zhe ;-) ). In practice, just send your patches, be civil and respect all other contributors. I can't remember any occasion

Re: guix pull: error: symlink: File exists

2018-10-31 Thread Catonano
Il mer 31 ott 2018, 12:53 Gábor Boskovits ha scritto: > Hello Laura, > > It took me some time time to get this working, as > there are some confusions around the startup files, so here it goes: > > There is no need for .bash_profile, I added the PATH export to: > .profile : to have it when

Re: Dual Boot GuixSd along side other preexisting distros

2018-10-31 Thread Tomáš Čech
Hi, On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:55:50PM +0530, Nalin Ranjan wrote:  Hi Guys, Can you guys please help me with a bit of understanding? I have a ThinkPad T410 on which I am trying to do this. Currently I have a dual boot configuration running Ubuntu and Windows 7. Could that grub

A simple Clojure build system is now ready (was Re: Leiningen follow-up)

2018-10-31 Thread Alex Vong
Hello everyone, The simple build system for Clojure is finally ready (simple in the sense that it uses plain old 'compile' in Clojure). The patches have been sent to guix-patches for review: https://issues.guix.info/issue/33215. So feel free to ignore the patches from my last reply. Cheers, Alex

Re: Stop it. Formerly - Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

2018-10-31 Thread Leo Famulari
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 04:41:53PM +0100, Pjotr Prins wrote: > I suggest to end this thread. HiPhish, come and discuss your points at > FOSDEM. We'll set up a working group for those who care about these > things. I agree. The subject has been discussed ad nauseam across the internet, and even

Re: guix pull: error: symlink: File exists

2018-10-31 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Hello Laura, I've found that adding to xsessionrc is what made it work for me, I actually tried to source the GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile, but I could not make that work reliably (seemingly .xsessionrc dost not cut the bill here). I guess I could make it working by adding to bashrc, but I feel that

Re: guix pull: error: symlink: File exists

2018-10-31 Thread Laura Lazzati
> > I've found that adding to xsessionrc > is what made it work for me, I actually tried to source the > GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile, but I could not make that work reliably > (seemingly .xsessionrc dost not cut the bill here) Did you just create the file adding the export PATH line that is also in

Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

2018-10-31 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 31/10/2018 15.55, HiPhish wrote: The CC allows the maintainers to remove me from contributing The maintainers (in the sense of the project initiators and/or current owners) could reject any contribution and moderate and ban you as they see fit with no CoC in place. With this specific

Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

2018-10-31 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 31/10/2018 15.55, HiPhish wrote: The CC does not provide room for honest and direct dialogue. Sheesh, you are so bad at arguing against this CoC that I, decidedly not a fan, feel compelled to counter ;) "Project maintainers are responsible for clarifying the standards of acceptable

Re: guix pull: error: symlink: File exists

2018-10-31 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Hello Laura, Laura Lazzati ezt írta (időpont: 2018. okt. 31., Sze, 19:10): >> >> I've found that adding to xsessionrc >> is what made it work for me, I actually tried to source the >> GUIX_PROFILE/etc/profile, but I could not make that work reliably >> (seemingly .xsessionrc dost not cut the

Re: Patch Tracker no. 33214

2018-10-31 Thread Lakshmi Prasannakumar
+ Björn and dev group. Thanks, Lakshmi Prasannakumar Bangalore On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 11:04 PM Lakshmi Prasannakumar < lakshmiprasannakuma...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Gábor, > > I have sent the new file. Waiting for the tracker id. Meanwhile I would > like to get clarification on few of the

Re: Patch submission should not imply agreement to policy (was Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?)

2018-10-31 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 30/10/2018 08.48, Mark H Weaver wrote: While I'm generally in favor of the CoC, I strongly oppose the idea that submitting a patch or communicating with us implies automatic agreement to our policies. Quoting from the other thread: On 29/10/2018 18.43, Ricardo Wurmus wrote:> > If you

Re: Patch submission should not imply agreement to policy (was Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?)

2018-10-31 Thread Mark H Weaver
Mark H Weaver writes: > Christopher Lemmer Webber writes: > >> The free software community has always had policies, has always asked >> people to respect language, has always had the expectation that if you >> participate in our community, you are expected to abide by certain >> norms. Having

Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

2018-10-31 Thread Mark H Weaver
HiPhish writes: > Oh sure, I would have no issue working with people I disagree with, but the > topic here is adopting the GKCG over the CC. The CC allows the maintainers to > remove me from contributing, which is the part I and others are taking issue > with. As has been mentioned

Re: guix pull: error: symlink: File exists

2018-10-31 Thread Laura Lazzati
Now I am trying to get the official way working, that is by sourcing > ~/.guix-profile/etc/profile, but it does not seem to work yet. > (I could of course just source it manually whenever I start a > terminal, but this does not feel comfortable) > I will have a look if I can simply get it working

Reinstallation issue

2018-10-31 Thread brettg
Hi all, I am trying to duplicate my environment on another machine of mine using my plain desktop comfiguration. There seems to be a bad URL request with telepathy On the gnome desktop service which is preventing the guix init system from grafting all of the packages. It’s

Re: guix pull: error: symlink: File exists

2018-10-31 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Hello Laura, It took me some time time to get this working, as there are some confusions around the startup files, so here it goes: There is no need for .bash_profile, I added the PATH export to: .profile : to have it when logging in through ssh or on the console. (this file did exists)

Re: Patch submission should not imply agreement to policy (was Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?)

2018-10-31 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 31/10/2018 09.58, Alex Sassmannshausen wrote: Out of curiosity, would you personally feel better about the CoC if it used terms such as "This community commits to" or "This community pledges to" insteead of "We as contributors commit to"? In as far as contributing doesn't make one part of

Re: Berlin is down

2018-10-31 Thread Clément Lassieur
Hi :-) When you restart it, could you please send the logs out, so that I can understand what's going on? (Maybe it's https://bugs.gnu.org/32779.) Thanks, Clément Clément Lassieur writes: > Hi, > > Berlin (https://berlin.guixsd.org) is down. > > Cheers, > Clément

Re: Video Documentation for GNU GUIX (an Outreachy project)

2018-10-31 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Hello Lakshmi, Gábor Boskovits ezt írta (időpont: 2018. okt. 31., Sze, 8:20): > > Hello Lakshmi, > > Lakshmi Prasannakumar ezt írta > (időpont: 2018. okt. 31., Sze, 5:45): > > > > Hi Björn and Gábor, > > > > I've sent the patch file to the patch tracker. > > I will have a look. > I can't see

Re: Video Documentation for GNU GUIX (an Outreachy project)

2018-10-31 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Hello Lakshmi, Lakshmi Prasannakumar ezt írta (időpont: 2018. okt. 31., Sze, 5:45): > > Hi Björn and Gábor, > > I've sent the patch file to the patch tracker. I will have a look. > Now I understand next this is to send you the timeline proposal for the > internship period , is it so? Yes,

Re: Video Documentation for GNU GUIX (an Outreachy project)

2018-10-31 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Hello Lakshmi, Lakshmi Prasannakumar ezt írta (időpont: 2018. okt. 31., Sze, 5:46): > > I would also like to know how to get the tracker number for the patch file > tracker. > You should receive an e-mail from the tracker stating the number, something like: bugnumber: Acknowledgement (title of

Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

2018-10-31 Thread Alex Sassmannshausen
Hello, I agree with Ricardo's email that really we should be discussing the CoC in relation to specific patches against it, to avoid circular debate. So I will only respond to the specific bit directly asking me to provide evidence. HiPhish writes: > On Monday, 29 October 2018 12:08:56 CET you

Re: Berlin is down

2018-10-31 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Hi Clément, > Berlin (https://berlin.guixsd.org) is down. Thanks for the notification. > When you restart it, could you please send the logs out, so that I can > understand what's going on? (Maybe it's https://bugs.gnu.org/32779.) I did not see any indication that the disk was full, but

Re: guix pull: error: symlink: File exists

2018-10-31 Thread Gábor Boskovits
Hello Laura, Laura Lazzati ezt írta (időpont: 2018. okt. 31., Sze, 11:08): > > > Hi! > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 7:43 PM Laura Lazzati > wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 5:05 PM Thorsten Wilms wrote: >>> >>> Thing is, I did >>> `ln -s /var/guix/profiles/per-user/root/guix-profile/bin/guix

Re: guix pull: error: symlink: File exists

2018-10-31 Thread Laura Lazzati
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 7:27 AM Gábor Boskovits wrote: > Hello Laura, > > > Recently we were having problems on our build farms, you could try > guix pull --substitute-urls="https://berlin.guixsd.org;, berlin is > back online just for about and hour, or so. Sorry about that. > Yes, I read that

Patchwork + automated checking and testing of patches

2018-10-31 Thread Christopher Baines
Hey, For a while, I've been thinking about ways in which contributing code changes to Guix can be better, in particular, how things like automatically checking and testing patches might be beneficial. Some tooling for doing checks already exists, like guix lint, but you can't run that on a

Re: guix pull: error: symlink: File exists

2018-10-31 Thread Laura Lazzati
Hi! On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 7:43 PM Laura Lazzati wrote: > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 5:05 PM Thorsten Wilms wrote: > >> Thing is, I did >> `ln -s /var/guix/profiles/per-user/root/guix-profile/bin/guix >> /usr/local/bin/guix` >> during installation and that symlink is still intact. Yet, `guix

Re: Patch submission should not imply agreement to policy (was Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?)

2018-10-31 Thread Alex Sassmannshausen
Hi Thorsten, Thorsten Wilms writes: > [...] > > Likewise, contributing to Guix is apparently meant to imply that one > makes the pledge as outlined in that CoC. > > In both cases, you are meant to not get one without the other. It > happened that one could not read the EULA in advance and it

Re: Berlin is down

2018-10-31 Thread Clément Lassieur
Hi Ricardo, Ricardo Wurmus writes: > Hi Clément, > >> Berlin (https://berlin.guixsd.org) is down. > > Thanks for the notification. Thanks for bringing it back! >> When you restart it, could you please send the logs out, so that I can >> understand what's going on? (Maybe it's